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Victory Mars
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:06 am
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See: 'De revolutionibus orbium coelestium libri VI':
http://pka.bj.uj.edu.pl/bjmanus/revol/titlpg_e.html

Not only did Copernicus seek to re-order the heavens,
he conspicuously ignored Earth's place at the center
of her caelestial sphere. That was his fatal blunder.

Copernicus tried to confuse the heavens, re-numbering
Earth's caelestial sphere first instead of eighth, as
Nick renumbered Saturn second instead of seventh, and
Jupiter third instead of sixth, also renumbering Mars
fourth instead of fifth, Earth fifth instead of tenth;
IGNORING THE MOON he renumbers Venus sixth instead of
third, Mercury seventh instead of second, ad nauseam!

This first chart summarizes synodic & sidereal
periods of the planets in mean solar days, and
mean tropical years, to measure sidereal years.
This is especially important, since it proves
that the order of the heavens is established by
sidereal--NOT synodic--periods of the planets:

THE TEN PLANETARY ORBITS
S# Pla Synod Sider. /TropY
*10 Plu 366.7 90800. 247.9
*9 Nep 367.5 60190. 164.8
*8 Ura 369.7 30685. 84.02
7 Sat 378.1 10760. 29.45
6 Jup 399.9 4332.2 11.86
5 Mar 780.0 686.98 1.881
4 Sun ----- 365.26 1.000
3 Ven 583.9 224.70 0.615
2 Mer 115.9 87.969 0.241
1 Moo 29.53 27.322 0.075
^^^^^^
*NOTE:Ura rules Earth's sidereal year =~ 1.00004
Nep rules Earth's tropical year =~ 1.00000
Plu rules Earth's own geocenter =~ 0.00000.

Cf. the above with this chart dated cir. 440 AD, which
agrees with Greco-Roman authorities dated centuries BC;
that's many centuries *BEFORE CHRIST*. You do the math:
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/Mins_Ten_Heavenly_Spheres.htm

COELVM EMPIREVM HABITACVLVM DEI ET OMNIVM ELECTORVM
Heaven Name Sphere Mvsa Goddess
X Primvm Mobile Earth/Plvton Mnemosyne Memory
IX Mobile Seasons/Neptvne Thalia Comedy
VIII Caelest.Firma. Stars/Vranvs Vrania Astronomy
VII SATVRNI Satvrn Polihymnia Hymnody
VI IOVIS Jvpiter Evterpe Melody
V MARTIS Mars Eratho Lyric
IV SOLIS Svn Melpomene Tragedy
III VENERIS Venvs Terpsicore Dance
II MERCVRII Mercvry Kaliope Epic
I LVNE Moon Klio History

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THIS DEMONSTRATES CONCLUSIVELY THAT ancient astronomers
knew full-well that the planets orbit with the Sun, and
knew the Earth is the center of her caelestial firmament.
Notably, the explictly sidereal numbering of the heavens
coupled with the very obvious fact that the Earth is the
center of her caelestial sphere, these facts prove that
Copernicus was a heretic. Only Atheists ignore the facts,
choosing instead to perpetuate their Copernican delusion.

For further information on how easy it is to observe
and predict the synodic -and- sidereal periods of the
ten planets of heaven, just as the ancients did, see:

*Min's 'Observing and Predicting Planetary Orbits':
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852@twistycreek.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852 <AT> twistycreek.com

Clear Skies!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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John Baker
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:22 am
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:06:56 +0100, Victory Mars
<atheists.are@damned.to.hellfire> wrote:


But Copernicus was right, Danny, which is something that will never be
said about you.
Cary Kittrell
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:01 am
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In article <d6ac43b7455509a73d36e8c33e131113@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> Victory Mars <atheists.are@damned.to.hellfire> writes:
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See: 'De revolutionibus orbium coelestium libri VI':
http://pka.bj.uj.edu.pl/bjmanus/revol/titlpg_e.html

Not only did Copernicus seek to re-order the heavens,
he conspicuously ignored Earth's place at the center
of her caelestial sphere. That was his fatal blunder.


Absolutely. And that's the reason for the phrase you
commonly hear: "We live in a Minian Universe" instead
of "We live in a Copernican Universe".


-- cary



Quote:

Clear Skies!

Thanks for the thought, but those of us actually involved
in real astronomy out here in Arizona don't require it.




-- cary
Mark K. Bilbo
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:58 am
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:06:56 +0100, Victory Mars wrote:

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<snip>

Go away Minnie...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation
by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging
rational inquiry." - Richard Dawkins
starburst
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:32 am
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John Baker wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:06:56 +0100, Victory Mars
atheists.are@damned.to.hellfire> wrote:


But Copernicus was right, Danny, which is something that will never be
said about you.



Now you're both wrong. Copernicus was never declared a heretic. And
unless the sun is the center of the universe, Copernicus was wrong.
Bill Hudson
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:59 am
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:06:56 +0100, Victory Mars wrote:

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snip

Go away Minnie...


I'm imagining a caged match between Min and Kelleher.


--
Bill Hudson - The Astrogeek
http://astrogeek.wordpress.com
John Baker
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:25 pm
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:32:21 -0500, starburst <nope@nospam.net> wrote:

Quote:
John Baker wrote:
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:06:56 +0100, Victory Mars
atheists.are@damned.to.hellfire> wrote:


But Copernicus was right, Danny, which is something that will never be
said about you.



Now you're both wrong. Copernicus was never declared a heretic. And
unless the sun is the center of the universe, Copernicus was wrong.


Sorry, I wasn't aware I had to be clinically accurate just to kick Min
in the ass. <G>
Uncle Vic
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:00 pm
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Victory Mars <atheists.are@damned.to.hellfire> wrote in
news:d6ac43b7455509a73d36e8c33e131113@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:

Go away. We're not interested.


--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Convicted by Earthquack
Plonked by Fester
 
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