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milli
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:17 am
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Hello,
I recently retired from the US Navy and we purchased a small farm,
something we've dreamed of for MANY years. As I say it is small (5.4 acres)
but we hope to work it for a few years to get the kids through school and
then move on to something bigger.
Anyway, one of our first purchases was 10 keets...we had heard they are
very good for pest control...about a month later we added 30 chicks. We
would like to eventually free range the chickens or perhaps we'll build a
good tractor to move them about the property. We are now down to 9 keets
and 25 chickens...I won't go into the details at this point...
My concern is, we've tried to raise them together...we've read in
Gardening with Guineas that they should do well...that the Guineas will fly
out of the hen yard in the morning and then back in in the evening to roost
in the chicken house...our experience has been that it is hard to keep the
Guineas out of the chicken yard....they will not fly out, we open the gate
and they file out each morning...eventually they end up back in the yard and
we open the gate and let them out again...This would be somewhat OK BUT,
they tend to bully the chickens a bit...actually I think I'd like to have
them just roost in the trees at night (they roost in them during the day
sometimes) and keep them away from the chickens..
Since the chickens tend to roost earlier than the Guineas I've thought
I'd just lock up the chicken house as soon as all of the chickens are in
there thinking that the Guineas would figure out that they had better roost
somewhere and do it...I tried it last night and the result was that they
initially hung out in front of the chicken house, eventually they made it on
top of our greenhouse, then in the yard under a tree and they ended up
spending the night cuddled on the ground outside of the chicken yard. While
they were under the tree we even tried to pick them up and put them on some
branches...they pretty much just freaked out (which seems pretty common for
Guineas) and flew down to the rest...I know they really like to be
together...guess it makes them seem like one big bird.....
Don't get me wrong, I like the Guineas...they are fun to watch (though
they seem to be pretty dumb)...they DO tend to get a little loud.....the
bottom line, though, is I want to protect the chickens.
Any ideas?
Tony

Any ideas on how to get them to realize
Jill
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:40 am
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milli wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
Hi

and welcome

Quote:
I recently retired from the US Navy and we purchased a small farm,
something we've dreamed of for MANY years. As I say it is small (5.4
acres) but we hope to work it for a few years to get the kids through
school and then move on to something bigger.
Anyway, one of our first purchases was 10 keets...we had heard they
are very good for pest control...about a month later we added 30
chicks.

How old are they all now?

--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
milli
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:49 am
Guest
The Guineas are about eight months old and the chickens about six. Are the
Guineas still too young?...the guy we bought them from told us the would be
fine just roaming the place at about six months.

"Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45b0d838$0$8748$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
Quote:
milli wrote:
Hello,
Hi
and welcome

I recently retired from the US Navy and we purchased a small farm,
something we've dreamed of for MANY years. As I say it is small (5.4
acres) but we hope to work it for a few years to get the kids through
school and then move on to something bigger.
Anyway, one of our first purchases was 10 keets...we had heard they
are very good for pest control...about a month later we added 30
chicks.

How old are they all now?

--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk

Omelet
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:46 pm
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In article <12r1koe2560s654@corp.supernews.com>,
"milli" <themilligans@txun.net> wrote:

Quote:
Any ideas?

There is a reason I ate all of mine...

Sorry.
--
Peace, Om

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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson
milli
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:48 pm
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LOL...my wife and I have joked about that...it may come to that.

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In article <12r1koe2560s654@corp.supernews.com>,
"milli" <themilligans@txun.net> wrote:

Any ideas?

There is a reason I ate all of mine...

Sorry.
--
Peace, Om

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Nicholson
Omelet
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:55 pm
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In article <12r285ahhv5l8b4@corp.supernews.com>,
"milli" <themilligans@txun.net> wrote:


Quote:
"Omelet" <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:omp_omelet-02BACD.11463419012007@news.giganews.com...
In article <12r1koe2560s654@corp.supernews.com>,
"milli" <themilligans@txun.net> wrote:

Any ideas?

There is a reason I ate all of mine...

Sorry.

LOL...my wife and I have joked about that...it may come to that.


I can empathize... ;-)

Honestly, guinea is delicious enough, I've considered raising a few
keets just for processing.

Even with the new city ordinances that limit me to 8 birds (and I have 3
pets), it specifically states "birds over 3 months of age", so I can
still, legally, get away with raising birds for food by keeping the
purchase receipt and processing them at under 3 months.
--
Peace, Om

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"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson
Ginny
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:43 pm
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milli wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
I recently retired from the US Navy and we purchased a small farm,
something we've dreamed of for MANY years. As I say it is small (5.4 acres)
but we hope to work it for a few years to get the kids through school and
then move on to something bigger.
Anyway, one of our first purchases was 10 keets...we had heard they are
very good for pest control...about a month later we added 30 chicks. We
would like to eventually free range the chickens or perhaps we'll build a
good tractor to move them about the property. We are now down to 9 keets
and 25 chickens...I won't go into the details at this point...
My concern is, we've tried to raise them together...we've read in
Gardening with Guineas that they should do well...that the Guineas will fly
out of the hen yard in the morning and then back in in the evening to roost
in the chicken house...our experience has been that it is hard to keep the
Guineas out of the chicken yard....they will not fly out, we open the gate
and they file out each morning...eventually they end up back in the yard and
we open the gate and let them out again...This would be somewhat OK BUT,
they tend to bully the chickens a bit...actually I think I'd like to have
them just roost in the trees at night (they roost in them during the day
sometimes) and keep them away from the chickens..

I have my GF with the hens and after the hens and roosters grow up they
tend to leave them alone for the most part, only picking on the immature
poultry. Adult GF will pick on a full grown rooster occasionally but
they all seem to sort out their pecking order after a while and I
haven't lost any birds from bullying.

GF are fairly dumb (they don't dodge haycutters very well or vehicles
for that matter). Some never roost in trees, others will roost way up
from a very young age and others just think they are hens, even to
laying in the nest boxes instead of a well hidden nest way out in the bush.
Quote:
Since the chickens tend to roost earlier than the Guineas I've thought
I'd just lock up the chicken house as soon as all of the chickens are in
there thinking that the Guineas would figure out that they had better roost
somewhere and do it...I tried it last night and the result was that they
initially hung out in front of the chicken house, eventually they made it on
top of our greenhouse, then in the yard under a tree and they ended up
spending the night cuddled on the ground outside of the chicken yard. While
they were under the tree we even tried to pick them up and put them on some
branches...they pretty much just freaked out (which seems pretty common for
Guineas) and flew down to the rest...I know they really like to be
together...guess it makes them seem like one big bird.....

My young birds do this and I have had to herd them into the yard late at
night or throw them over the fence. From there they often fly up into
the trees if it is light enough which they could have done from outside
but wouldn't or couldn't. They won't fly after dark though unless
attacked by a predator (usually fatal in the end especially if its a
cat) or blown out of the trees by bad weather (also usually fatal). So
they huddle on the ground inside the yard but at least safer.

Quote:
Don't get me wrong, I like the Guineas...they are fun to watch (though
they seem to be pretty dumb)...they DO tend to get a little loud.....the
bottom line, though, is I want to protect the chickens.

They will sort out their pecking order with time so it shouldn't be a
problem unless they are drawing blood. Over time the noise diminishes,
or you just don't notice it most of the time, a bit like living next to
a train line. They will however really carry on if a raptor is flying
around or snakes appear. Mine don't like eagles at all and really let me
know if one is about. They are worth a little noise for the snakes they
warn me about too. As they mature they will roam further away during the
day with their roosting tree at the centre of the area they will cover.
At 18 months mine are travelling about 500m in any direction from the
yard except the dense scrub to the NE.


--
Ginny - in West Australia

When you see the sun rise, remember,
it's a good day - you're still alive!
Butter
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:55 pm
Guest
Quote:

Any ideas

I had guinies and banties and they had no problems. If you have them
roosting in the trees they will eventually get eaten like miine did.
After a while they will all sort out who is boss and all will be well.
Stop worrying about it.
 
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