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| mcilroy_je |
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:08 pm |
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Hello everyone - we have a chicken run which is divided into two, and
one of the halves is itself divided into two. The chickens have access
to the big area all the time (with straw on the ground), and one of the
smaller areas - but never both of the small areas at the same time. The
idea is that the plants in one area re-grow while the chickens cannot
access it.
Just leaving the natural plants to re-establish themselves does not
seem to be very effective, especially in the winter when things grow
slowly.
Does anyone have suggestions of what I might plant? It needs to be
nutritious, liked by chickens, fast growing and cheap. I am in Kent,
south east England with a mild climate and very fertile soil.
Thanks.
Julian |
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| Amy Blankenship |
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:40 pm |
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"mcilroy_je" <mcilroy_je@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote: Hello everyone - we have a chicken run which is divided into two, and
one of the halves is itself divided into two. The chickens have access
to the big area all the time (with straw on the ground), and one of the
smaller areas - but never both of the small areas at the same time. The
idea is that the plants in one area re-grow while the chickens cannot
access it.
Just leaving the natural plants to re-establish themselves does not
seem to be very effective, especially in the winter when things grow
slowly.
Does anyone have suggestions of what I might plant? It needs to be
nutritious, liked by chickens, fast growing and cheap. I am in Kent,
south east England with a mild climate and very fertile soil.
We grow rye grass, which takes about a week to come up and about 2 weeks to
get high enough to eat (for the goat--chickens can eat it as soon as it
comes up, as long as you don't mind not ever seeing it) and Austrian Winter
peas, which seem to take about 2 weeks to come up and thrive by 4-5 weeks.
Winter wheat also comes up quickly. I live in Mississippi, USA, so what
works for me may not work for you.
I also sprout winter peas, wheat, and sunflowers in a bucket for the
chickens, which they get at least 2x/week.
HTH;
Amy |
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| Jill |
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:21 pm |
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"mcilroy_je" <mcilroy_je@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote: Hello everyone - we have a chicken run which is divided into two, and
one of the halves is itself divided into two. The chickens have access
to the big area all the time (with straw on the ground), and one of the
smaller areas - but never both of the small areas at the same time. The
idea is that the plants in one area re-grow while the chickens cannot
access it.
Just leaving the natural plants to re-establish themselves does not
seem to be very effective, especially in the winter when things grow
slowly.
Does anyone have suggestions of what I might plant? It needs to be
nutritious, liked by chickens, fast growing and cheap. I am in Kent,
south east England with a mild climate and very fertile soil.
You are unlikely to find anything that will grow fast enough outside even in
Kent in the winter.
What you can do is look to establishing "game cover" plants -- if you look
in google you will get lots of info and companies will help you choose the
best species for your soils. This will provide shelter, and a variety of
species useful to birds at different times of the year.
Creating a more shrubby woody environment can be more effective -- with deep
leaf litter for the birds to rake around in.
If you have a greenhouse, try sprouting wheat and other grains for them on
damp kitchen paper.
If the pens are not standing up to the waer by the number of birds you have
you may need to increase the size or numbers of pens so you can move the
birds more frequently
The aim is to shift the birds before the grass is damaged. If you are
leaving it so it has to re-establish its probably too long or too man.
Ground management is always a perennial problem for all of us who have birds
outside.
Trial and error is the most common method :)
Jill |
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| Omelet |
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:41 pm |
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In article <1169395684.726741.6780@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"mcilroy_je" <mcilroy_je@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: Hello everyone - we have a chicken run which is divided into two, and
one of the halves is itself divided into two. The chickens have access
to the big area all the time (with straw on the ground), and one of the
smaller areas - but never both of the small areas at the same time. The
idea is that the plants in one area re-grow while the chickens cannot
access it.
Just leaving the natural plants to re-establish themselves does not
seem to be very effective, especially in the winter when things grow
slowly.
Does anyone have suggestions of what I might plant? It needs to be
nutritious, liked by chickens, fast growing and cheap. I am in Kent,
south east England with a mild climate and very fertile soil.
Thanks.
Julian
This is quick and cheap.
Try sprouting a bunch of flats of bird seed.
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| mcilroy_je |
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:41 pm |
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Thanks for your help!
Regards, Julian
On 21 Jan, 16:08, "mcilroy_je" <mcilroy...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: Hello everyone - we have a chicken run which is divided into two, and
one of the halves is itself divided into two. The chickens have access
to the big area all the time (with straw on the ground), and one of the
smaller areas - but never both of the small areas at the same time. The
idea is that the plants in one area re-grow while the chickens cannot
access it.
Just leaving the natural plants to re-establish themselves does not
seem to be very effective, especially in the winter when things grow
slowly.
Does anyone have suggestions of what I might plant? It needs to be
nutritious, liked by chickens, fast growing and cheap. I am in Kent,
south east England with a mild climate and very fertile soil.
Thanks.
Julian |
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| Jill |
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:06 am |
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mcilroy_je wrote:
Quote: Thanks for your help!
What are you going to try?
Let us know how you get on so others can learn from your experience.
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regards
Jill Bowis
Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
Quote: Regards, Julian
On 21 Jan, 16:08, "mcilroy_je" <mcilroy...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hello everyone - we have a chicken run which is divided into two, and
one of the halves is itself divided into two. The chickens have
access to the big area all the time (with straw on the ground), and
one of the smaller areas - but never both of the small areas at the
same time. The idea is that the plants in one area re-grow while the
chickens cannot access it.
Just leaving the natural plants to re-establish themselves does not
seem to be very effective, especially in the winter when things grow
slowly.
Does anyone have suggestions of what I might plant? It needs to be
nutritious, liked by chickens, fast growing and cheap. I am in Kent,
south east England with a mild climate and very fertile soil.
Thanks.
Julian |
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| Ginny |
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:09 am |
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mcilroy_je wrote:
Quote: Does anyone have suggestions of what I might plant? It needs to be
nutritious, liked by chickens, fast growing and cheap. I am in Kent,
south east England with a mild climate and very fertile soil.
Thanks.
Julian
While not even close to what you were looking into I have been following
posts on another group about mealworms as a food source for poultry, not
by itself but as a nutritious addition to their current diet of grain
and greens.
I purchased a little batch from the pet shop to give it a go and a bag
of bran and have set them up in a couple of plastic containers in the
garage under the house.
Has anyone else had experience with them? The little
worms/grubs/caterpillars eat grain based food ie bran, pupate then hatch
into a beetle. At present the grubs are between 15-25mm (up to 1 inch)
long, look a little hairy and a honey colour. I have left some separate
to continue on their full lifecycle but I think the chicks will just
love them. They fill the criteria of being fast growing, cheap and easy
to raise.
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Ginny - in West Australia
When you see the sun rise, remember,
it's a good day - you're still alive! |
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| Ginny |
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:28 pm |
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Peggy wrote:
Quote: Hi Ginny,
You have to keep the meal worms in the fridge to stop them turning into
beetles.
I think I'll try some of the large ones out on my GF chicks. I hope to
keep some to beetle stage and start all over again.
Quote: Hows things going up there .
Take care Peggy
Pretty good thanks Peggy. Hope you had a safe and enjoyable Christmas
and New Year. What have you been up to this month? And how are the dams
holding out? Did you get any of the rain from the last couple of cold
fronts?
We have had fires from lightning strikes for the last two days, and
probably again this afternoon. Some large fires, some just inaccessable.
Hubby left 9pm two nights ago and only got home 6pm last night - and
slept for all of two hours before the next storm hit with more lightning
strikes. At least we had 4ml of rain so no immediate danger so he went
back to bed about 10pm. Hot again today and really windy and I've been
patrolling the verandahs for signs of smoke from last nights strikes.
Nothing so far thank goodness.
What a way to spend the long weekend holiday. LOL
Take care down there.
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Ginny - in West Australia
When you see the sun rise, remember,
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| Peggy |
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:47 pm |
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Hi Ginny,
You have to keep the meal worms in the fridge to stop them turning into
beetles.
Hows things going up there .
Take care Peggy
"Ginny" <glvl88REMOVETHIS@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote: mcilroy_je wrote:
Does anyone have suggestions of what I might plant? It needs to be
nutritious, liked by chickens, fast growing and cheap. I am in Kent,
south east England with a mild climate and very fertile soil.
Thanks.
Julian
While not even close to what you were looking into I have been following
posts on another group about mealworms as a food source for poultry, not
by itself but as a nutritious addition to their current diet of grain
and greens.
I purchased a little batch from the pet shop to give it a go and a bag
of bran and have set them up in a couple of plastic containers in the
garage under the house.
Has anyone else had experience with them? The little
worms/grubs/caterpillars eat grain based food ie bran, pupate then hatch
into a beetle. At present the grubs are between 15-25mm (up to 1 inch)
long, look a little hairy and a honey colour. I have left some separate
to continue on their full lifecycle but I think the chicks will just
love them. They fill the criteria of being fast growing, cheap and easy
to raise.
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Ginny - in West Australia
When you see the sun rise, remember,
it's a good day - you're still alive! |
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| Jill |
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:53 am |
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Peggy wrote:
Quote: I did not have a good new year
as my step mum passed away .. My dad did not tell me she had cancer
so I had to put 1&1together and pull a few strings with my cousin to
find out what she was in hospital and died from
Sincerest condolences Peggy
Families are strange beings -- rarely is the logic we would like applied.
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regards
Jill Bowis
Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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| Peggy |
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:03 am |
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Good to hear your safe. Not good for the live stock..Our soak is pritty low
and pritty salty now. I am lucky with water as I am on sceam ..Our hay is
going fast though.. I did not have a good new year as my step mum passed
away .. My dad did not tell me she had cancer so I had to put 1&1together
and pull a few strings with my cousin to find out what she was in hospital
and died from.. no fires here as yet . we got little rain last cold front
but not much..
Take care
Peggy
"Ginny" <glvl88REMOVETHIS@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45bac6db@quokka.wn.com.au...
Quote: Peggy wrote:
Hi Ginny,
You have to keep the meal worms in the fridge to stop them turning into
beetles.
I think I'll try some of the large ones out on my GF chicks. I hope to
keep some to beetle stage and start all over again.
Hows things going up there .
Take care Peggy
Pretty good thanks Peggy. Hope you had a safe and enjoyable Christmas
and New Year. What have you been up to this month? And how are the dams
holding out? Did you get any of the rain from the last couple of cold
fronts?
We have had fires from lightning strikes for the last two days, and
probably again this afternoon. Some large fires, some just inaccessable.
Hubby left 9pm two nights ago and only got home 6pm last night - and
slept for all of two hours before the next storm hit with more lightning
strikes. At least we had 4ml of rain so no immediate danger so he went
back to bed about 10pm. Hot again today and really windy and I've been
patrolling the verandahs for signs of smoke from last nights strikes.
Nothing so far thank goodness.
What a way to spend the long weekend holiday. LOL
Take care down there.
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Ginny - in West Australia
When you see the sun rise, remember,
it's a good day - you're still alive! |
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| Ginny |
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:24 am |
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Peggy wrote:
Quote: Good to hear your safe. Not good for the live stock..Our soak is pritty low
and pritty salty now. I am lucky with water as I am on sceam ..Our hay is
going fast though.. I did not have a good new year as my step mum passed
away .. My dad did not tell me she had cancer so I had to put 1&1together
and pull a few strings with my cousin to find out what she was in hospital
and died from.. no fires here as yet . we got little rain last cold front
but not much..
Take care
Peggy
Sorry to hear your sad news about your step mum. Our thoughts and
prayers are with you and I hope the year improves for you.
Hope your soak holds out for the rest of summer, which looks like a
looong one ahead. Hay is really scarce up here too although we have
enough for the time being. Thunderstorms have given us another couple of
mls and two more fires this arvo so keeping us busy.
Take care
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Ginny - in West Australia
verba volant, scripta manent
"words fly away, writings remain" |
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| Peggy |
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:47 am |
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Thanks Jill & Ginny for your wishes.
I am getting there. My family seems more weird than most.
my brother and sister has not said boo to since the funeral.I think they are
still alive as I have not seen or heard any thing to say there not.
but such is life..
Take care
Peggy
"Ginny" <glvl88REMOVETHIS@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45bb4488@quokka.wn.com.au...
Quote: Peggy wrote:
Good to hear your safe. Not good for the live stock..Our soak is pritty
low
and pritty salty now. I am lucky with water as I am on sceam ..Our hay
is
going fast though.. I did not have a good new year as my step mum passed
away .. My dad did not tell me she had cancer so I had to put
1&1together
and pull a few strings with my cousin to find out what she was in
hospital
and died from.. no fires here as yet . we got little rain last cold
front
but not much..
Take care
Peggy
Sorry to hear your sad news about your step mum. Our thoughts and
prayers are with you and I hope the year improves for you.
Hope your soak holds out for the rest of summer, which looks like a
looong one ahead. Hay is really scarce up here too although we have
enough for the time being. Thunderstorms have given us another couple of
mls and two more fires this arvo so keeping us busy.
Take care
--
Ginny - in West Australia
verba volant, scripta manent
"words fly away, writings remain" |
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