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Pats359@gmail.com
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:40 am
Guest
Hi, I am new to this group, I hope you can help me.

I have kept chickens for a number of years in country West Australia,
but only recently
in suburban Perth, and I only now have a problem. In the past I had
beautiful Orpingtons
and some mixed breeds, they either died of old age or, roosters of
'chicken madras'
(ie, the axe!) or the occaisional fox invasion.
However, the chooks I have now (Isa Browns) seem to suffer some kind of
temporary
paralysis. I have 8, and only ever 1 at a time gets sick ...and she
seems to recover within
a day.
It must be something they are eating? I have a wormwood bush growing
into the run, it
provides much needed shade and I thought its pesticide qualities would
be beneficial?
I let them into a larger area sometimes and I know there are 'double G'
(or maybe known
as calthrop?) growing in that area. Otherwise I have no idea what is
wrong ...your thoughts
are welcome.
Cheers Pat
Peggy
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:52 pm
Guest
Hi Pats,
Welcome to group.
Take Care.
Peggy

Western Australia
(Great Southern)

<Pats359@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166182824.713006.226400@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Hi, I am new to this group, I hope you can help me.

I have kept chickens for a number of years in country West Australia,
but only recently
in suburban Perth, and I only now have a problem. In the past I had
beautiful Orpingtons
and some mixed breeds, they either died of old age or, roosters of
'chicken madras'
(ie, the axe!) or the occaisional fox invasion.
However, the chooks I have now (Isa Browns) seem to suffer some kind of
temporary
paralysis. I have 8, and only ever 1 at a time gets sick ...and she
seems to recover within
a day.
It must be something they are eating? I have a wormwood bush growing
into the run, it
provides much needed shade and I thought its pesticide qualities would
be beneficial?
I let them into a larger area sometimes and I know there are 'double G'
(or maybe known
as calthrop?) growing in that area. Otherwise I have no idea what is
wrong ...your thoughts
are welcome.
Cheers Pat
Jill
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:02 am
Guest
Pats359@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Hi, I am new to this group, I hope you can help me.

Welcome

Quote:

I have kept chickens for a number of years in country West Australia,
but only recently
in suburban Perth, and I only now have a problem. In the past I had
beautiful Orpingtons
and some mixed breeds, they either died of old age or, roosters of
'chicken madras'
(ie, the axe!) or the occaisional fox invasion.
However, the chooks I have now (Isa Browns) seem to suffer some kind
of temporary
paralysis. I have 8, and only ever 1 at a time gets sick ...and she
seems to recover within
a day.
It must be something they are eating? I have a wormwood bush growing
into the run, it
provides much needed shade and I thought its pesticide qualities would
be beneficial?
I let them into a larger area sometimes and I know there are 'double
G' (or maybe known
as calthrop?) growing in that area. Otherwise I have no idea what is
wrong ...your thoughts
are welcome.

Not living in Australia and having no familiarity with your conditions I
cannot help but hopefully one of the folks hereabouts who hail from your
part of the world can give you some suggestions
Very strange
What other symptoms do they show?
What sort of paralysis do they show?
How old are they?
What are they fed on?

Quote:
Cheers Pat

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Catherine Jemma
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:10 am
Guest
Hi Jill

I'm online so will answer some of your questions as I know of this person's
hens

Feed......well maybe some old dry wheat-grains that I've supplied her with
in the past, supplemented with a small scattered ration of bought in layer
pellets from a feed store, and of course various kitchen scraps and
leftovers

Symptoms....birds simply flopped on the ground unable to stand up or walk,
but can shuffle around a little using its "arms"

Birds age, unknown, as these ones are freebies from a near-neighbour who was
moving out of the area, but were originally probably ex-battery-cage farm
cheapies (so some at least, might well be "getting-on-a-bit")

"Pat" can perhaps answer better next time she's online

cheerio


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Jill
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:03 am
Guest
Catherine Jemma wrote:
Quote:
Hi Jill

I'm online so will answer some of your questions as I know of this
person's hens

Feed......well maybe some old dry wheat-grains that I've supplied her
with in the past, supplemented with a small scattered ration of
bought in layer pellets from a feed store, and of course various
kitchen scraps and leftovers

Symptoms....birds simply flopped on the ground unable to stand up or
walk, but can shuffle around a little using its "arms"

Scattering food is often a problem as it is more likely to become
contaminated
Can you get Gail Damerows chicken health book from a library and look more
closely at the birds when one doe sit again
A bacterial or some such bug infection is possible but I would be tempted to
get a bird necropised next time an attack hits to be able to culture bloods
etc before restocking with any new birds

Quote:

Birds age, unknown, as these ones are freebies from a near-neighbour
who was moving out of the area, but were originally probably
ex-battery-cage farm cheapies (so some at least, might well be
"getting-on-a-bit")

"Pat" can perhaps answer better next time she's online

cheerio

--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
Ginny
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:16 pm
Guest
Quote:
Symptoms....birds simply flopped on the ground unable to stand up or
walk, but can shuffle around a little using its "arms"

This is very similar to my sister-in-law's problem she had with some
bottle fed lambs a couple of years ago. I wouldn't have believed it if I
hadn't seen it.

Her three lambs used to sit in the shade of the wormwood on hot days and
sometimes nibble the leaves. Well within a matter of hours the lamb that
had eaten the wormwood would get all wobbly and stagger around in a
circle, banging into things as it couldn't seem to see either. By next
day it would have recovered and be back to normal. She fenced them off
from the wormwood and it didn't reoccur.

Wormwood is one of the plants used in the production of absinthe.

--
Ginny - in West Australia

When you see the sun rise, remember,
it's a good day - you're still alive!
Ginny
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:19 pm
Guest
Quote:
Symptoms....birds simply flopped on the ground unable to stand up or
walk, but can shuffle around a little using its "arms"

This is very similar to my sister-in-law's problem she had with some
bottle fed lambs a couple of years ago. I wouldn't have believed it if I
hadn't seen it.

Her three lambs used to sit in the shade of the wormwood on hot days and
sometimes nibble the leaves. Well within a matter of hours the lamb that
had eaten the wormwood would get all wobbly and stagger around in a
circle, banging into things as it couldn't seem to see either. By next
day it would have recovered and be back to normal. She fenced them off
from the wormwood and it didn't reoccur.

Wormwood is one of the plants used in the production of absinthe.

Calthrop and Double Gee wont affect the chooks other than give them sore
feet from the prickles. Double Gee was introduced as a spinich
substitute and the leaves are quite palatable.

--
Ginny - in West Australia

When you see the sun rise, remember,
it's a good day - you're still alive!
 
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