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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:21 am |
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sorry - probably a boring question, but i'm a newbie <g>
one of my chooks (isa brown of indeterminate - to me - age) has (or had?)
scaly leg. it came on suddenly last week, & was looking quite obviously
awful within a day (is this how it normally goes?). i researched what to do
about it & since we had vaseline, but none of the other possibilities, we
used that. she's been treated again once since (as they all have - don't
ask - but my game hens are certainly very, er, athletic!) & is due to be
treated again.
i noticed this afternoon that much of the crusts & sticking-out scales have
come off & exposed new, pink foot. i actually wasn't expecting this, as all
the sites i looked at gave treatment ideas, but no idea what to expect
afterwards.
is the loss of the scales & the nude pink feet a Good Thing, or have i done
something wrong? all around, her legs & feet are looking much much better,
so i'm hoping it's good & not the calm before the storm <g>.
as i am new here, a bit about me (or rather, my chooks - we've recently
moved to country nsw, australia, & have had the grown-up lady chickens for
about 3 (4?) months now (3 isa browns & 7 - formerly 8, ask my dog about
that - game hens). the game hens were, in theory, for eating but we are
becoming fond (despite their neurotic personalities) & besides that, they
are excellent layers. they don't _all_ have names yet, though, so we'll see
. my grown-up ladies were bought at auction in a flurry of excitement, so
while they are apparently youngish, i don't know their history or age. about
3 weeks ago i got three 10 week old pullets (more isa browns - they're just
a lovely breed imo) who are growing like weeds & going very well.
my poor hens live in a scabby old henhouse that was here when we arrived. as
it's now being eaten by termites, i have grand plans for a glamorous new
set-up which will be movable, easy to clean, & the answer to any chicken's
prayers. as i haven't managed to find the time yet to even begin building
it, no doubt i'll have to look for more termite damage to force my hand on
that. we've not lived here long & have a lot of work to do all around,
so the ladies can wait another month or two (they'll have to!). we are
loving our chickens! i find they have the "goldfish effect" on me - i could
sit & watch them for hours & i just love it. unfortunately, i have other
things that need doing so we just have a coffee together from time to time
<g>. i'm also extremely fond of ducks, but haven't any at this point - not
of my own anyway (wild ducks use our dams). hopefully, ducks will be in our
future when i am more organised.
thanks for any help with the scaly leg question, look forward to "meeting"
everyone.
cheers
kylie |
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| Jill |
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:25 pm |
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0tterbot wrote:
Quote: sorry - probably a boring question, but i'm a newbie <g
one of my chooks (isa brown of indeterminate - to me - age) has (or
had?) scaly leg. it came on suddenly last week, & was looking quite
obviously awful within a day (is this how it normally goes?). i
researched what to do about it & since we had vaseline, but none of
the other possibilities, we used that. she's been treated again once
since (as they all have - don't ask - but my game hens are certainly
very, er, athletic!) & is due to be treated again.
i noticed this afternoon that much of the crusts & sticking-out
scales have come off & exposed new, pink foot. i actually wasn't
expecting this, as all the sites i looked at gave treatment ideas,
but no idea what to expect afterwards.
is the loss of the scales & the nude pink feet a Good Thing, or have
i done something wrong? all around, her legs & feet are looking much
much better, so i'm hoping it's good & not the calm before the storm
g>.
The chances are that its been "brewing" for months but became really obvious
as the scales of the legs lifted.
Once this happens then the result you have seen - scales falling off- can
occur one treatment.
Keep them in very clean house and run and treat all the birds as many more
times as you can over the next few weeks to make sure that ALL the mites and
emerging mites are dealt with.
Welcome -- crumbs, we are getting some great new Aussies here - can you
please export some of your warm dry up here and we will send you some of our
cold rain !
a bit about me (or rather, my chooks - we've
Quote: recently moved to country nsw, australia, & have had the grown-up
lady chickens for about 3 (4?) months now (3 isa browns & 7 -
formerly 8, ask my dog about that - game hens). the game hens were,
in theory, for eating but we are becoming fond (despite their
neurotic personalities) & besides that, they are excellent layers.
they don't _all_ have names yet, though, so we'll see  .
Get a chunky cockerel - like Susssex or Plymouth Rock or Australorp - and
then keep the girls you have now and use them to raise your table birds
You want to put birds in the pot before they are 18 weeks old preferably to
get really tender meat
So keeping your game girls is the right thing to do !
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my poor hens live in a scabby old henhouse that was here when we
arrived.
Ahhh -- thats probably where the mites have come from !!!
A sacrificial bonfire of it as soon as you can make other arrangements would
be a very good idea or you will get re-infection.
as it's now being eaten by termites, i have grand plans for
Quote: a glamorous new set-up which will be movable, easy to clean, & the
answer to any chicken's prayers. as i haven't managed to find the
time yet to even begin building it, no doubt i'll have to look for
more termite damage to force my hand on that.
see above -- you may have found your impetus!
we've not lived
Quote: here long & have a lot of work to do all around, so the ladies can
wait another month or two (they'll have to!).
I know the feeling
There is always more going on to the end of the list of "tuits" than gets
crossed off the top!
Quote: thanks for any help with the scaly leg question, look forward to
"meeting" everyone.
cheers
kylie
again welcome -- its a great group and we look forward to more tales of your
chooks
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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| Ginny |
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:36 pm |
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Jill wrote:
Quote: 0tterbot wrote:
sorry - probably a boring question, but i'm a newbie <g
one of my chooks (isa brown of indeterminate - to me - age) has (or
had?) scaly leg. it came on suddenly last week, & was looking quite
obviously awful within a day (is this how it normally goes?). i
researched what to do about it & since we had vaseline, but none of
the other possibilities, we used that. she's been treated again once
since (as they all have - don't ask - but my game hens are certainly
very, er, athletic!) & is due to be treated again.
i noticed this afternoon that much of the crusts & sticking-out
scales have come off & exposed new, pink foot. i actually wasn't
expecting this, as all the sites i looked at gave treatment ideas,
but no idea what to expect afterwards.
is the loss of the scales & the nude pink feet a Good Thing, or have
i done something wrong? all around, her legs & feet are looking much
much better, so i'm hoping it's good & not the calm before the storm
g>.
The chances are that its been "brewing" for months but became really obvious
as the scales of the legs lifted.
Once this happens then the result you have seen - scales falling off- can
occur one treatment.
Keep them in very clean house and run and treat all the birds as many more
times as you can over the next few weeks to make sure that ALL the mites and
emerging mites are dealt with.
as i am new here,
Welcome -- crumbs, we are getting some great new Aussies here - can you
please export some of your warm dry up here and we will send you some of our
cold rain !
a bit about me (or rather, my chooks  - we've
recently moved to country nsw, australia, & have had the grown-up
lady chickens for about 3 (4?) months now (3 isa browns & 7 -
formerly 8, ask my dog about that - game hens). the game hens were,
in theory, for eating but we are becoming fond (despite their
neurotic personalities) & besides that, they are excellent layers.
they don't _all_ have names yet, though, so we'll see  .
Get a chunky cockerel - like Susssex or Plymouth Rock or Australorp - and
then keep the girls you have now and use them to raise your table birds
You want to put birds in the pot before they are 18 weeks old preferably to
get really tender meat
So keeping your game girls is the right thing to do !
my poor hens live in a scabby old henhouse that was here when we
arrived.
Ahhh -- thats probably where the mites have come from !!!
A sacrificial bonfire of it as soon as you can make other arrangements would
be a very good idea or you will get re-infection.
as it's now being eaten by termites, i have grand plans for
a glamorous new set-up which will be movable, easy to clean, & the
answer to any chicken's prayers. as i haven't managed to find the
time yet to even begin building it, no doubt i'll have to look for
more termite damage to force my hand on that. ;-)
see above -- you may have found your impetus!
we've not lived
here long & have a lot of work to do all around, so the ladies can
wait another month or two (they'll have to!).
I know the feeling
There is always more going on to the end of the list of "tuits" than gets
crossed off the top!
thanks for any help with the scaly leg question, look forward to
"meeting" everyone.
cheers
kylie
again welcome -- its a great group and we look forward to more tales of your
chooks
Welcome Kylie.
I would agree with everything Jill said above (she is our resident guru
on all things poultry).
As soon as possible put in new perches if nothing else and considering
your location I'd use steel pipe, rod or square. If not possible, paint
your wood perches with something oily (kero?)in the mean time as we find
the perch they roost on at night is our main source of re-infestation. I
use steel because it doesn't get cold enough here to cause problems like
it would in the northern hemisphere as well as being parasite proof. If
I get parasites in their shed I let them out and either spray it with
insecticide or burn it with the weed burner. I love fire for sterilizing
everything (I think its the pyromaniac coming out in me <g>). In autumn
or winter of course, not now or that bonfire Jill mentioned would cover
half the state in a short time.
So have you planned your new shed yet?
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Ginny - in West Australia
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| Catherine Jemma |
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:17 pm |
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Hey Jill thanks for sending me some of your one and a half metres of rain
I'd criticise you for being so stingy, just 13 mm, but I realise that you
had to pay a lot of postage to have it shipped all the way from Scotland
Plus at this time of year, we'd consider 13 mm of rain a pretty decent
rainfall event
Even allowing for all the waste, as the initial thunderstorm was so intense
that water all overflowed the gutters etc and I had to drop the main feed
pipe and let the water run out to waste to flush it out........but there was
still plenty and the small rainwater tank was soon full to overflowing
again......then the excess simply bled off slowly, being diverted to several
garden plants
Could you wait a couple of weeks then send us another half an inch of rain
please !
cheerio
Cate
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| a_l_p |
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:08 am |
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Catherine Jemma wrote:
Quote: Hey Jill thanks for sending me some of your one and a half metres of rain
I'd criticise you for being so stingy, just 13 mm, but I realise that you
had to pay a lot of postage to have it shipped all the way from Scotland
Plus at this time of year, we'd consider 13 mm of rain a pretty decent
rainfall event
Even allowing for all the waste, as the initial thunderstorm was so intense
that water all overflowed the gutters etc and I had to drop the main feed
pipe and let the water run out to waste to flush it out........but there was
still plenty and the small rainwater tank was soon full to overflowing
again......then the excess simply bled off slowly, being diverted to several
garden plants
Could you wait a couple of weeks then send us another half an inch of rain
please !
Isn't it wonderful what you can order on the internet! And without divulging
your credit card details to all the poultry group as well!!
A L P |
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| Jill |
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:13 am |
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Ginny wrote:
Quote: I love fire for sterilizing everything (I think its the pyromaniac
coming out in me <g>). In autumn or winter of course, not now or that
bonfire Jill mentioned would cover half the state in a short time.
Ahh --- yes -- being THAT dry is not a state that is familiar to me <grin>
Very good point!
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:15 am |
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Catherine Jemma wrote:
Quote: Hey Jill thanks for sending me some of your one and a half metres of
rain
I'd criticise you for being so stingy, just 13 mm, but I realise that
you had to pay a lot of postage to have it shipped all the way from
Scotland
Twas MY pleasure
We are enjoying the start of a few days of cold and dry -- just a smidgen
above freezing which the birds are thoroughly enjoying -- there will be some
mass preening sessions today.
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Could you wait a couple of weeks then send us another half an inch of
rain please !
I will do me best for you
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:18 am |
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a_l_p wrote:
Quote: Catherine Jemma wrote:
Hey Jill thanks for sending me some of your one and a half metres of
rain
Isn't it wonderful what you can order on the internet! And without
divulging your credit card details to all the poultry group as well!!
A L P
"Pluie"Pal ;)
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:31 am |
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Jill wrote:
Quote: a_l_p wrote:
Catherine Jemma wrote:
Hey Jill thanks for sending me some of your one and a half metres of
rain
Isn't it wonderful what you can order on the internet! And without
divulging your credit card details to all the poultry group as well!!
A L P
"Pluie"Pal ;)
LOL!
A L P |
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| Ginny |
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:36 pm |
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Catherine Jemma wrote:
Quote: Hey Jill thanks for sending me some of your one and a half metres of rain
I'd criticise you for being so stingy, just 13 mm, but I realise that you
had to pay a lot of postage to have it shipped all the way from Scotland
13mm!! Lucky devil - we got 6 spots. Now on my third shift of the pump
to the last dam (not quite a km away and nearly 100m down hill so fairly
hard on the pump). But now I have water at the house again. Lost two of
my imported Dorkings on the weekend from the heat. Just too hot @
44°C in the shade on the house verandah and no wind.
Quote: Plus at this time of year, we'd consider 13 mm of rain a pretty decent
rainfall event
Even allowing for all the waste, as the initial thunderstorm was so intense
that water all overflowed the gutters etc and I had to drop the main feed
pipe and let the water run out to waste to flush it out........but there was
still plenty and the small rainwater tank was soon full to overflowing
again......then the excess simply bled off slowly, being diverted to several
garden plants
Could you wait a couple of weeks then send us another half an inch of rain
please !
cheerio
Cate
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| Peggy |
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:17 pm |
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Hi Ginny,
Sorry to here of your loss of your Dockings.
It seems to be one of those years doesn't it .. Every hitting at once..
Yours Peggy
"Ginny" <glvl88REMOVETHIS@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:458725eb@quokka.wn.com.au...
Quote: Catherine Jemma wrote:
Hey Jill thanks for sending me some of your one and a half metres of
rain
I'd criticise you for being so stingy, just 13 mm, but I realise that
you
had to pay a lot of postage to have it shipped all the way from Scotland
13mm!! Lucky devil - we got 6 spots. Now on my third shift of the pump
to the last dam (not quite a km away and nearly 100m down hill so fairly
hard on the pump). But now I have water at the house again. Lost two of
my imported Dorkings on the weekend from the heat.  Just too hot @
44°C in the shade on the house verandah and no wind.
Plus at this time of year, we'd consider 13 mm of rain a pretty decent
rainfall event
Even allowing for all the waste, as the initial thunderstorm was so
intense
that water all overflowed the gutters etc and I had to drop the main
feed
pipe and let the water run out to waste to flush it out........but there
was
still plenty and the small rainwater tank was soon full to overflowing
again......then the excess simply bled off slowly, being diverted to
several
garden plants
Could you wait a couple of weeks then send us another half an inch of
rain
please !
cheerio
Cate
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Ginny - in West Australia
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it's a good day - you're still alive! |
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| Ginny |
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:25 pm |
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Peggy wrote:
Quote: Hi Ginny,
Sorry to here of your loss of your Dockings.
It seems to be one of those years doesn't it .. Every hitting at once..
Yours Peggy
Thanks Peggy. I just have the one hen left of the trio now. Happily I
was able to hatch out 10 chicks before the weather warmed up too much
and they are all looking well and the heat doesn't appear to be
bothering them as much. 6 cockerals and 4 pullets as it turned out so at
least some stock from the original trio. Hope to cull the males down to
two when they are full grown but will have to keep most of the hens just
for numbers. Have been unable to get the eggs I wanted from over east
this season so will try again next year.
Ginny - in West Australia
When you see the sun rise, remember,
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:30 am |
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Your welcome Ginny,
I would take one of your young roosters off your hands but unable to get up
to your part of the country..
Have a good new year and wonderful Christmas .. we both hope it is not too
hot .
Take care
Peggy
"Ginny" <glvl88REMOVETHIS@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45873f88@quokka.wn.com.au...
Quote: Peggy wrote:
Hi Ginny,
Sorry to here of your loss of your Dockings.
It seems to be one of those years doesn't it .. Every hitting at once..
Yours Peggy
Thanks Peggy. I just have the one hen left of the trio now. Happily I
was able to hatch out 10 chicks before the weather warmed up too much
and they are all looking well and the heat doesn't appear to be
bothering them as much. 6 cockerals and 4 pullets as it turned out so at
least some stock from the original trio. Hope to cull the males down to
two when they are full grown but will have to keep most of the hens just
for numbers. Have been unable to get the eggs I wanted from over east
this season so will try again next year.
Ginny - in West Australia
When you see the sun rise, remember,
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:44 am |
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Ginny wrote:
Quote: Catherine Jemma wrote:
Hey Jill thanks for sending me some of your one and a half metres of
rain I'd criticise you for being so stingy, just 13 mm, but I realise
that you had to pay a lot of postage to have it shipped all the way
from Scotland
13mm!! Lucky devil - we got 6 spots. Now on my third shift of the pump
to the last dam (not quite a km away and nearly 100m down hill so
fairly hard on the pump). But now I have water at the house again.
Lost two of my imported Dorkings on the weekend from the heat.
Just too hot @ 44°C in the shade on the house verandah and no wind.
I will try harder -- I don't want it back and you really sound like you have
earnt it
Sorry to hear about your Dorkings
I could not handle that sort of heat either
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:56 pm |
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In article <4585face$1@quokka.wn.com.au>, xena@agn.net.auREMOVEthis
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Quote: Hey Jill thanks for sending me some of your one and a half metres of rain
I'd criticise you for being so stingy, just 13 mm, but I realise that you
had to pay a lot of postage to have it shipped all the way from Scotland
Plus at this time of year, we'd consider 13 mm of rain a pretty decent
rainfall event
13mm - that's about aquarter of an inch. We've had a total of 154mm
(just over six inches) ALL THIS YEAR.
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Could you wait a couple of weeks then send us another half an inch of rain
please !
Crikey - don't wait! Even though I've got half a tonne of apriocts
drying on the green, I love to see some rain.
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