Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer?
They barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard.
And they don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch. Next time I'll
tin them all before trying to use them. That will help the
solder-rejection problem, at least.

Had to build a new transistor testor when my old one started giving
anomalous results, telling me certain kinds of transistors were bad when I
knew they were good. Spent nearly the last hour trying to get the battery
leads to attach firmly. Still not sure if it will last. If I have to
I'll unplug the chips and cut the sockets out with wire cutters before
replacing them with better prepared ones. Just not looking forwad to that
possibility. Shouldn't be so hard to get a stupid solder joint to take.

Thanks for listening, sorry for wasting bandwidth...

Dave

Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer?
They barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard.
And they don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch. Next time I'll
tin them all before trying to use them. That will help the
solder-rejection problem, at least.

Had to build a new transistor testor when my old one started giving
anomalous results, telling me certain kinds of transistors were bad when I
knew they were good. Spent nearly the last hour trying to get the battery
leads to attach firmly. Still not sure if it will last. If I have to
I'll unplug the chips and cut the sockets out with wire cutters before
replacing them with better prepared ones. Just not looking forwad to that
possibility. Shouldn't be so hard to get a stupid solder joint to take.

Thanks for listening, sorry for wasting bandwidth...

"Dave" <db5151@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:12ooh3u1ojqo339@corp.supernews.com...
Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer?
They barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard.
And they don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch. Next time I'll
tin them all before trying to use them. That will help the
solder-rejection problem, at least.

Had to build a new transistor testor when my old one started giving
anomalous results, telling me certain kinds of transistors were bad when
I knew they were good. Spent nearly the last hour trying to get the
battery leads to attach firmly. Still not sure if it will last. If I
have to I'll unplug the chips and cut the sockets out with wire cutters
before replacing them with better prepared ones. Just not looking forwad
to that possibility. Shouldn't be so hard to get a stupid solder joint
to take.

Thanks for listening, sorry for wasting bandwidth...

Dave



Its the great lead free solder conspiracy - perpetrated by psychotic
technophobes trying to end the production of all electronic devices!!!

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:47:50 -0600, "Dave" <db5151@hotmail.com
wrote:

Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer?
They
barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard. And
they
don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch. Next time I'll tin them
all
before trying to use them. That will help the solder-rejection problem,
at
least.

Had to build a new transistor testor when my old one started giving
anomalous results, telling me certain kinds of transistors were bad when I
knew they were good. Spent nearly the last hour trying to get the battery
leads to attach firmly. Still not sure if it will last. If I have to
I'll
unplug the chips and cut the sockets out with wire cutters before
replacing
them with better prepared ones. Just not looking forwad to that
possibility. Shouldn't be so hard to get a stupid solder joint to take.

Thanks for listening, sorry for wasting bandwidth...

---
This'll make you feel better:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4685602358019994174&q=Helsinki+complaint+chorus



--
JF

"Dave" <db5151@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:12ooh3u1ojqo339@corp.supernews.com...
Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer?
They barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard.
And they don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch. Next time I'll
tin them all before trying to use them. That will help the
solder-rejection problem, at least.

Had to build a new transistor testor when my old one started giving
anomalous results, telling me certain kinds of transistors were bad when
I knew they were good. Spent nearly the last hour trying to get the
battery leads to attach firmly. Still not sure if it will last. If I
have to I'll unplug the chips and cut the sockets out with wire cutters
before replacing them with better prepared ones. Just not looking forwad
to that possibility. Shouldn't be so hard to get a stupid solder joint
to take.

Thanks for listening, sorry for wasting bandwidth...

Corrosion/oxidation is the prime reason soldering does not work.

"Charles Schuler" <charleschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ENKdnQOI75LpyRHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com...

"Dave" <db5151@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:12ooh3u1ojqo339@corp.supernews.com...
Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer?
They barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard.
And they don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch. Next time I'll
tin them all before trying to use them. That will help the
solder-rejection problem, at least.

Had to build a new transistor testor when my old one started giving
anomalous results, telling me certain kinds of transistors were bad when
I knew they were good. Spent nearly the last hour trying to get the
battery leads to attach firmly. Still not sure if it will last. If I
have to I'll unplug the chips and cut the sockets out with wire cutters
before replacing them with better prepared ones. Just not looking
forwad to that possibility. Shouldn't be so hard to get a stupid solder
joint to take.

Thanks for listening, sorry for wasting bandwidth...

Corrosion/oxidation is the prime reason soldering does not work.


Aaah. Okay, so I really do need to tin the socket leads first. Thanks.
I didn't realize...

Dave

"Dave" <db5151@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Charles Schuler" <charleschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Dave" <db5151@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:12ooh3u1ojqo339@corp.supernews.com...
Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer?
They barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard.
And they don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch. Next time
I'll tin them all before trying to use them. That will help the
solder-rejection problem, at least.

Had to build a new transistor testor when my old one started giving
anomalous results, telling me certain kinds of transistors were bad
when I knew they were good. Spent nearly the last hour trying to get
the battery leads to attach firmly. Still not sure if it will last.
If I have to I'll unplug the chips and cut the sockets out with wire
cutters before replacing them with better prepared ones. Just not
looking forwad to that possibility. Shouldn't be so hard to get a
stupid solder joint to take.

Thanks for listening, sorry for wasting bandwidth...

Corrosion/oxidation is the prime reason soldering does not work.


Aaah. Okay, so I really do need to tin the socket leads first. Thanks.
I didn't realize...

Dave



New purchased and properly packaged parts rarely need any preparation
before soldering, I use a lot of salvaged parts of dubious origin and find
Fry's fluxite paste very useful on parts with oxidised pins. In an
emergency water based plumbers flux can be used, this is available in two
grades - the more active grade can strip the iron plating off soldering
bits but will make almost any component solderable. Cellulose thinners
(gunwash is cheaper) is good for cleaning off flux but can attack some
components!

Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer? They
barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard. And they
don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch. Next time I'll tin them all
before trying to use them. That will help the solder-rejection problem, at
least.

Had to build a new transistor testor when my old one started giving
anomalous results, telling me certain kinds of transistors were bad when I
knew they were good. Spent nearly the last hour trying to get the battery
leads to attach firmly. Still not sure if it will last. If I have to I'll
unplug the chips and cut the sockets out with wire cutters before replacing
them with better prepared ones. Just not looking forwad to that
possibility. Shouldn't be so hard to get a stupid solder joint to take.

Thanks for listening, sorry for wasting bandwidth...

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:p4roo2hu55ipsmcvois0h3csr1r9b7f4qc@4ax.com...
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:47:50 -0600, "Dave" <db5151@hotmail.com
wrote:

Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer?
They
barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard. And
they
don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch. Next time I'll tin them
all
before trying to use them. That will help the solder-rejection problem,
at
least.

Had to build a new transistor testor when my old one started giving
anomalous results, telling me certain kinds of transistors were bad when I
knew they were good. Spent nearly the last hour trying to get the battery
leads to attach firmly. Still not sure if it will last. If I have to
I'll
unplug the chips and cut the sockets out with wire cutters before
replacing
them with better prepared ones. Just not looking forwad to that
possibility. Shouldn't be so hard to get a stupid solder joint to take.

Thanks for listening, sorry for wasting bandwidth...

---
This'll make you feel better:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4685602358019994174&q=Helsinki+complaint+chorus



--
JF

LOL! Thank you. I honestly needed that. Did you notice that they only sang
for something like seven and a half minutes, but the video was eight and a
half minutes long? Wonder if that was just coincidence... Probably not.

Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer?

They barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard.
And they don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch.

Next time I'll tin them all before trying to use them.

On 2006-12-22, Dave <db5151@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why don't they make the pins/leads on IC sockets just a little longer?

dunno, but wire-wrap sockets have much longer pins

They barely reach through to the other side of the standard PC pboard.
And they don't like solder, to boot. Bitch bitch bitch.

Next time I'll tin them all before trying to use them.

Try a different brand. those ones with folded sheetmetal contacts are
pretty
crappy, the ones with machined pins cost only a few cents more and are
much
nicer.


Bye.
Jasen