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| Brablo |
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I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the Hari Rud
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and Syr
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| Ramesh |
| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:44 am |
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Ya. Named so after Indians migrated into central asia.
Brablo wrote:
[quote:ed9a6f2461]I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the Hari Rud
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and Syr
Darya.[/quote:ed9a6f2461] |
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| harmony |
| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:01 pm |
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"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote in message
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[quote:9cb77f8ac4]
Ramesh wrote:
Ya. Named so after Indians migrated into central asia.
Brablo wrote:
I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the Hari Rud
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and Syr
Darya.
From where? When did Indians migrate into Central Asia, and what makes
you think so?
[/quote:9cb77f8ac4]
what makes you think they didn't? |
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| harmony |
| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:03 pm |
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"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote:ca0637ea0d]
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Ramesh wrote:
Ya. Named so after Indians migrated into central asia.
Brablo wrote:
I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the Hari
Rud
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and Syr
Darya.
From where? When did Indians migrate into Central Asia, and what makes
you think so?
what makes you think they didn't? pls quote the _opinions_ of nonsanskrit
people.
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| António Marques |
| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:56 pm |
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Peter T. Daniels wrote:
[quote:f938d852cd]harmony wrote:
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote in message
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harmony wrote:
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Ramesh wrote:
Ya. Named so after Indians migrated into central asia.
Brablo wrote:
I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the Hari
Rud
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area
have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and
Syr
Darya.
From where? When did Indians migrate into Central Asia, and what makes
you think so?
what makes you think they didn't?
Because there isn't any reason to think they did.
That's why I asked Ramesh for the reasons for thinking that they did.
he.....he..........
no reason that your nosanskrit kirastani masters want to think of,
obviously.
Well obviously we can't think about them if you won't reveal what they
are!
[/quote:f938d852cd]
You didn't know? You have to go to India, stay there for some years and
then maybe, it just may be, you'll be invited to a lecture - you have to
pay to attend, of course.
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| Guest |
| Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:06 am |
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António Marques wrote:
[quote:4cafd5e50e]Peter T. Daniels wrote:
harmony wrote:
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1161969121.303635.135340@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
harmony wrote:
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1161953842.969379.85850@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Ramesh wrote:
Ya. Named so after Indians migrated into central asia.
Brablo wrote:
I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the Hari
Rud
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area
have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and
Syr
Darya.
From where? When did Indians migrate into Central Asia, and what makes
you think so?
what makes you think they didn't?
Because there isn't any reason to think they did.
That's why I asked Ramesh for the reasons for thinking that they did.
he.....he..........
no reason that your nosanskrit kirastani masters want to think of,
obviously.
Well obviously we can't think about them if you won't reveal what they
are!
You didn't know? You have to go to India, stay there for some years and
then maybe, it just may be, you'll be invited to a lecture - you have to
pay to attend, of course.
[/quote:4cafd5e50e]
Ah, the old 'Out of India' fiction.
Too bad physical anthropology indicates the route of transmission was
North to South. |
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| Peter T. Daniels |
| Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:42 am |
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Matt Giwer wrote:
[quote:92682ebbae]Have you ever seen a pro-peace, anti-Israel Jew on TV? Why not?
What does that say about Jews?
[/quote:92682ebbae]
Never heard of Noam Chomsky?
Then what are you doing in sci.lang? |
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| Brablo |
| Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:06 am |
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| Christopher Culver |
| Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:43 am |
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"Brablo" <gestureofrespect@yahoo.com> writes:
[quote:574fc3293c]What does IIRC stand for? Indo-Iranian?
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If I Recall Correctly.
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| harmony |
| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:16 pm |
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António Marques wrote:
[quote:5888e8e6ba]Peter T. Daniels wrote:
harmony wrote:
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1161969121.303635.135340@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
harmony wrote:
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Ramesh wrote:
Ya. Named so after Indians migrated into central asia.
Brablo wrote:
I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the
Hari
Rud
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area
have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and
Syr
Darya.
From where? When did Indians migrate into Central Asia, and what
makes
you think so?
what makes you think they didn't?
Because there isn't any reason to think they did.
That's why I asked Ramesh for the reasons for thinking that they did.
he.....he..........
no reason that your nosanskrit kirastani masters want to think of,
obviously.
Well obviously we can't think about them if you won't reveal what they
are!
You didn't know? You have to go to India, stay there for some years and
then maybe, it just may be, you'll be invited to a lecture - you have to
pay to attend, of course.
[/quote:5888e8e6ba]
Ah, the old 'Out of India' fiction.
Too bad physical anthropology indicates the route of transmission was
North to South.
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oh yeah, there is a one-way sign planted by the kirastanists at the khyber
pointing south? |
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| Brablo |
| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:22 pm |
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Yusuf,
It appears that "Hari" is cognate with "Haraivu"(sp?), which means
"fast-moving" river in Iranian.
There doesn't appear to be a consensus that it's cognate with "Herat".
Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
[quote:a8a9f1fbef]Brablo wrote:
I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the Hari Rud
hari: ru:d
AFAIK hari: is just from an earlier name of Herat (hara:t which is an
arabization of an earlier name without -t
the river flows through Herat
hari: means a type of plain (flatland) in persian
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and Syr
Darya.[/quote:a8a9f1fbef] |
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| Yusuf B Gursey |
| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:09 pm |
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Brablo wrote:
[quote:0e131fce75]Yusuf,
It appears that "Hari" is cognate with "Haraivu"(sp?), which means
"fast-moving" river in Iranian.
There doesn't appear to be a consensus that it's cognate with "Herat".
[/quote:0e131fce75]
but Herat was originaly more like Haraivu
[quote:0e131fce75]
Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
Brablo wrote:
I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the Hari Rud
hari: ru:d
AFAIK hari: is just from an earlier name of Herat (hara:t which is an
arabization of an earlier name without -t
the river flows through Herat
hari: means a type of plain (flatland) in persian
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and Syr
Darya.[/quote:0e131fce75] |
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| Yusuf B Gursey |
| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:10 pm |
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Brablo wrote:
[quote:9c8add2c9d]Yusuf,
It appears that "Hari" is cognate with "Haraivu"(sp?), which means
"fast-moving" river in Iranian.
There doesn't appear to be a consensus that it's cognate with "Herat".
[/quote:9c8add2c9d]
but Herat was originaly more like Haraivu
[quote:9c8add2c9d]
Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
Brablo wrote:
I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the Hari Rud
hari: ru:d
AFAIK hari: is just from an earlier name of Herat (hara:t which is an
arabization of an earlier name without -t
the river flows through Herat
hari: means a type of plain (flatland) in persian
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and Syr
Darya.[/quote:9c8add2c9d] |
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| Yusuf B Gursey |
| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:20 pm |
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Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
[quote:f41866958a]Brablo wrote:
Yusuf,
It appears that "Hari" is cognate with "Haraivu"(sp?), which means
"fast-moving" river in Iranian.
There doesn't appear to be a consensus that it's cognate with "Herat".
[/quote:f41866958a]
hari: means a field watered by rain in new persian and hiri: (older
hare:v) is the older name of Herat. it may be just a coincidence
though.
[quote:f41866958a]
but Herat was originaly more like Haraivu
Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
Brablo wrote:
I know that "rud" means 'river' in persian or pashto. Was the Hari Rud
hari: ru:d
AFAIK hari: is just from an earlier name of Herat (hara:t which is an
arabization of an earlier name without -t
the river flows through Herat
hari: means a type of plain (flatland) in persian
named after a Hindu God? I heard that other rivers in that area have
Indic sounding names, but are *NOT* Indic - such as Amu Darya and Syr
Darya.[/quote:f41866958a] |
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