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| Harry Conover |
 Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:52 pm |
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ieis-brad@juno.com (Brad Guth) wrote in message news:<9f50a7c5.0310081203.54194807@posting.google.com>...
Quote: My recent post regarding how GOOGLE is supporting the likes of
al-Qaida or al-Qaeda was blocked. Wonder why?
Sorry, but you're a bit paranoid. The situation is not at all as you
see it.
Quote: As a potential al-Qaida or al-Qaeda operative, GOOGLE has essentially
advised me as well as other on how best to utilize their posting site
for ulterior (anti-American) motives.
As I said above...
Quote: * I don't want my email address to be published on the web, but I
still want to post. How can I hide my email address?
"We require a valid email address to post to Google Groups. If you
don't want your normal email address to be listed, we encourage you to
sign up for an anonymous account with one of the many free email
services available on the web and to post from that account. You can
find a list of such services by conducting a Google search."
"we encourage you to sign up for an anonymous account"
"You can find a list of such services by conducting a Google search."
In other Google sleeper cell words; if I'm already utilizing an
anonymous email account, then on behalf of GOOGLE standards and
practices, I'm not only permitted but encouraged to establish yet
another phony email address. That's certainly about as good of
identity hiding as it gets.
Actually Google's reason for doing this is to protect users that post
their actual email address from SPAM and denial of service attacks
from some of the malicious, sociopathic hackers that inhabit the web.
(This is why I today post from an archaic email address, while using
my own name. This way anyone who legitimately wants to communicate
with me for a reason can easily do so.)
....And no, use of an anonymous or alias address is not at all
effective in concealing your identity if there is reason for the
government or law enforcement to track you down. In fact, such a
search is rather easy to perform if you have the proper authority to
do so, since your ISP's audit trail and your temporary or permanent IP
address make this trace rather trivial to conduct.
Quote: Here's more proof that I'm a whole lot more right than not.
You should see a mental health professional, and quickly before your
condition becomes worse!
Quote: Lately, my email accounts that are directly associated with the GUTH
Venus discoveries, of anything lunar, LSE and a bloody host of closely
related topics, are still being intentionally trashed.
You know this as a fact because? Also, because you sound like a
harmless kook, why should anyone want to go out of their way to do so?
You're starting to sound like that poor lady from Cleveland (or was it
Cincinatti) who constantly posts about the police or her enemies
nightly bombarding her with some sort of "pain ray." Get help!
Quote: As further
proof, I've recently introduced a replacement email address so that I
could specifically collect data on these folks, so that someday I'll
have the option of returning the favor...
So you're taking steps so become still another malicious, sociopathic
hacker yourself? A paranoid one at that. Careful, you're starting to
make my skin crawl!
Brad, listen closely for just a moment. Realize that to readers here
you are just another harmless fruitcake, and no one, **NO ONE**, takes
your posts seriously enough to go to the bother of interferring with
them.
This is the reality of the situation. Since you appear to believe
otherwise, I'd once again strongly urge you to seek professional help.
Life, albeit short, is a wonderful experience to be enjoyed...and
mental illness, like cancer, cuts short the wonder. Both can be
treated, and with today's medical science, often cured.
Harry C. |
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| Gordon D. Pusch |
| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:31 am |
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hhc314@yahoo.com (Harry Conover) writes:
Quote: Brad, listen closely for just a moment. Realize that to readers here
you are just another harmless fruitcake, and no one, **NO ONE**, takes
your posts seriously enough to go to the bother of interferring with
them.
Indeed. I KILLfiled Brad "VENUS IS INHABITED!" Guth a long time ago,
once I deduced that he had jumped into the deep end of Hoagland's pool.
When too many people respond to his threads (e.g., this one), I KILLfile
the threads, too (the way I just did with this one, <*!PLONK!*>).
Brad, seek professional medical and psychiatric help. Your hallucinations
and paranoia are only going to get worse the longer you leave them untreated.
-- Gordon D. Pusch
perl -e '$_ = "gdpusch\@NO.xnet.SPAM.com\n"; s/NO\.//; s/SPAM\.//; print;' |
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| Steve Harris sbharris@RO |
| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:33 pm |
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hhc314@yahoo.com (Harry Conover) wrote in message news:<7ce4e226.0310212052.7d566c84@posting.google.com>...
Quote: * I don't want my email address to be published on the web, but I
still want to post. How can I hide my email address?
"We require a valid email address to post to Google Groups. If you
don't want your normal email address to be listed, we encourage you to
sign up for an anonymous account with one of the many free email
services available on the web and to post from that account. You can
find a list of such services by conducting a Google search."
"we encourage you to sign up for an anonymous account"
"You can find a list of such services by conducting a Google search."
In other Google sleeper cell words; if I'm already utilizing an
anonymous email account, then on behalf of GOOGLE standards and
practices, I'm not only permitted but encouraged to establish yet
another phony email address. That's certainly about as good of
identity hiding as it gets.
Actually Google's reason for doing this is to protect users that post
their actual email address from SPAM and denial of service attacks
from some of the malicious, sociopathic hackers that inhabit the web.
(This is why I today post from an archaic email address, while using
my own name. This way anyone who legitimately wants to communicate
with me for a reason can easily do so.)
COMMENT:
What the hell are you talking about, Harry? Google requires that your
messages posted in newsgroups contain your valid email address. That
only encourages people to misuse it for attacks and spam.
Google's suggestion that if you don't want your email address to be
listed on usenet, that you sign up for free anonymous email remailers
you can find with google, is specious. Those are for EMAIL, not
usenet. No free anon remailers exist that give access to usenet
newsgroups (if you know of any, do tell-- the last I know of was the
old dejanews which got eaten by google).
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| Morely Dotes |
| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:10 pm |
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sbharris@ix.netcom.com (Steve Harris sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com) wrote in
news:79cf0a8.0310221233.3be12fe0@posting.google.com:
Quote: Google's suggestion that if you don't want your email address to be
listed on usenet, that you sign up for free anonymous email remailers
you can find with google, is specious. Those are for EMAIL, not
usenet. No free anon remailers exist that give access to usenet
newsgroups (if you know of any, do tell-- the last I know of was the
old dejanews which got eaten by google).
You don't understand the process at all, I see.
--
Want SPEWS-filtered and SBL-filtered email?
http://www.spamblocked.com/index.html
"Mammals are far more intellectually advanced than most people think.
A gopher gave me the finger once." - Cynthia of Syracuse |
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| Richard Herring |
| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:21 am |
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sbharris@ix.netcom.com (Steve Harris sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com) wrote in message news:<79cf0a8.0310221233.3be12fe0@posting.google.com>...
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What the hell are you talking about, Harry? Google requires that your
messages posted in newsgroups contain your valid email address. That
only encourages people to misuse it for attacks and spam.
Wrong. Google requires you to provide an email address which is valid
_at the moment when you sign up_. Once you have done so, there is no
further need for it to exist. See my headers for an example.
The Google posting interface is web-based - email is not required.
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Google's suggestion that if you don't want your email address to be
listed on usenet, that you sign up for free anonymous email remailers
you can find with google, is specious. Those are for EMAIL, not
usenet.
Which is all you need. Get a remailer account, sign up for Google
giving the remailer address, receive the confirmation email giving the
URL for the final part of the Google sign-up process, discard the
remailer account.
Quote: No free anon remailers exist that give access to usenet
newsgroups (if you know of any, do tell-- the last I know of was the
old dejanews which got eaten by google).
I think there are still some mail2news servers, not that it's relevant
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| Edward Green |
| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:13 pm |
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news01@clupeid.demon.co.uk (Richard Herring) wrote in message news:<63ee5e77.0310230221.17664fb3@posting.google.com>...
Quote: sbharris@ix.netcom.com (Steve Harris sbharris@ROMAN9.netcom.com) wrote in message news:<79cf0a8.0310221233.3be12fe0@posting.google.com>...
What the hell are you talking about, Harry? Google requires that your
messages posted in newsgroups contain your valid email address. That
only encourages people to misuse it for attacks and spam.
Wrong. Google requires you to provide an email address which is valid
_at the moment when you sign up_. Once you have done so, there is no
further need for it to exist. See my headers for an example.
Yeah ... I just discovered this emprically. I finally cancelled my
aol account, and I was planing to open a new Google account ... until
I realized there was no reason as of yet my old one would stop
working.
It's better this way: at least attempts to email me bounce. For a
while, the attached aol account was chiefly a spam collector I seldom
read ... which may mean some real people wrote to me in vain.
Quote: Google's suggestion that if you don't want your email address to be
listed on usenet, that you sign up for free anonymous email remailers
you can find with google, is specious. Those are for EMAIL, not
usenet.
Which is all you need. Get a remailer account, sign up for Google
giving the remailer address, receive the confirmation email giving the
URL for the final part of the Google sign-up process, discard the
remailer account.
Huh. Good idea ... I guess when the time come to do this, I will
figure out exactly how an anonymous email remailer works.
Now ... security problem: how do two people each of which never
publishes an email address on the net manage to set up email
communication? Assume they recognize and trust each other, just don't
want any third party to get either email. Maybe that's where the
anonymous remailer comes in again.
Spam is so insidious: I had one aol screen name I _only_ used once to
email either the European Patent Office or World Intellectual Property
Organization. I subsequently received a steady stream of EuroPorn
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