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| Ron |
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| Jim Webster |
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"Ron" <banmilk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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please no, not that old chestnut!
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| Ron |
| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:58 pm |
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"Jim Webster" <Jim@feeswerve.spam.co.uk> wrote in message news:<btcipj$f15$3@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>...
Quote: "Ron" <banmilk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The replacement of copper with manganese in brains may be a key
reason why prions form.
http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/2001/01/bse/
please no, not that old chestnut!
Jim Webster
brilliant and fact filled rebuttal Jim.....NOT!
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| Reason |
| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:48 pm |
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I checked out the link and the only explanation I have is that the authors
definitely had some sort of chemicals in their brains.
"Ron" <banmilk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Jim Webster |
| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:07 am |
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"Ron" <banmilk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "Jim Webster" <Jim@feeswerve.spam.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Ron" <banmilk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The replacement of copper with manganese in brains may be a key
reason why prions form.
http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/2001/01/bse/
please no, not that old chestnut!
Jim Webster
brilliant and fact filled rebuttal Jim.....NOT!
Check the archives of uk.business.agriculture.
Indeed check the scientific literature. It has been generally rebutted with
monotonous regularity
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| Oz |
| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:49 am |
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Jim Webster <Jim@feeswerve.spam.co.uk> writes
Quote: Check the archives of uk.business.agriculture.
Indeed check the scientific literature. It has been generally rebutted with
monotonous regularity
Indeed, to the point of extreme boredom.
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Oz
This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.
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| Jim Webster |
| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:41 am |
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"Oz" <acoohdb@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Jim Webster <Jim@feeswerve.spam.co.uk> writes
Check the archives of uk.business.agriculture.
Indeed check the scientific literature. It has been generally rebutted
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monotonous regularity
Indeed, to the point of extreme boredom.
Actually I probably owe Ron an apology, because he wasn't to know just how
old hat it is
What US readers must remember is that in this whole debate since the US case
I doubt any Brit has heard anything new that wasn't discussed to death five
years ago.
But the same loonies are in there reheasing their same old arguments, and
the same vested interests are in there looking for funding
In fact it has got to the stage where the antis are so desperate that
Torsten is actually discussing things with Pete as some sort of mutual
admiration society
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| Oz |
| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:09 am |
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Jim Webster <Jim@feeswerve.spam.co.uk> writes
Quote: In fact it has got to the stage where the antis are so desperate that
Torsten is actually discussing things with Pete as some sort of mutual
admiration society
Sad to see how low he has sunk, then.
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This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.
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| Orestes |
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x-no-archive: Yes
"Reason" <pjohn@nsn.com> wrote in message news:<X6rKb.5540$hk.1573@pd7tw1no>...
Quote: I checked out the link and the only explanation I have is that the authors
definitely had some sort of chemicals in their brains.
If only you did.
Quote: "Ron" <banmilk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The replacement of copper with manganese in brains may be a key
reason why prions form.
http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/2001/01/bse/
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| goofball 86 |
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A theory about how prions are formed suggests that organophosphate
pesticides could be partly to blame. Two people have already died defending
this theory, apparently at the hands of professional assassins working
either for the British government or the chemical industry. So the theory
needs to be taken seriously.
Who died, when and how?
"Orestes" <think.uninc@dlcwest.com> wrote in message
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"Reason" <pjohn@nsn.com> wrote in message
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I checked out the link and the only explanation I have is that the
authors
definitely had some sort of chemicals in their brains.
If only you did.
"Ron" <banmilk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The replacement of copper with manganese in brains may be a key
reason why prions form.
http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/2001/01/bse/
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| Jim Webster |
| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:33 am |
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"goofball 86" <jstouf@viclink.com> wrote in message
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Quote: A theory about how prions are formed suggests that organophosphate
pesticides could be partly to blame. Two people have already died
defending
this theory, apparently at the hands of professional assassins working
either for the British government or the chemical industry. So the theory
needs to be taken seriously.
Who died, when and how?
the story has been discussed widely in the UK and the Organophosphate link
just doesn't stand close analysis,
And I too would love to know the names of the two people who died, the idea
that the British government could do something so competant as to hire good
assassins is a great comfort for all us UK taxpayers
Jim Webster |
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| Jim Webster |
| Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:58 am |
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"goofball 86" <jstouf@viclink.com> wrote in message
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Quote: The chemistry discussed at the following page sure looks good. I still
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not been able to get the opinion of a physician on whether it's real or
not.
http://www.purdeyenvironment.com/
I remember reading his papers when they came out (remember in the UK we have
had over 20 years of this) and the best thing about him wasn't his answers,
but the questions he asked that forced other people to look for answers. I
think he is pretty well written off now, his organo-phosphate idea doesn't
seem to have any takers anymore.
I think his biggest service has been to kick government into actually doing
things
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| goofball 86 |
| Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:19 am |
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The chemistry discussed at the following page sure looks good. I still have
not been able to get the opinion of a physician on whether it's real or not.
http://www.purdeyenvironment.com/
"Jim Webster" <Jim@feeswerve.spam.co.uk> wrote in message
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"goofball 86" <jstouf@viclink.com> wrote in message
news:1038fbn22ijbvf1@corp.supernews.com...
A theory about how prions are formed suggests that organophosphate
pesticides could be partly to blame. Two people have already died
defending
this theory, apparently at the hands of professional assassins working
either for the British government or the chemical industry. So the
theory
needs to be taken seriously.
Who died, when and how?
the story has been discussed widely in the UK and the Organophosphate link
just doesn't stand close analysis,
And I too would love to know the names of the two people who died, the
idea
that the British government could do something so competant as to hire
good
assassins is a great comfort for all us UK taxpayers
Jim Webster
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