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| Hognoxious |
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:20 pm |
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"tarquinlinbin" <fleagle@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:12:16 +0000 (UTC), "sam1967@hetnet.nl"
sam1967@hetnet.nl> wrote:
they were concerned about tax evasion i would imagine.
they could tax cooking oil as well i suppose.
however one of their arguments for such heavy taxation on petrol is to
curb its use because it is an environmental pollutant.
what are the pollutants released by cooking oil ?
Indeed the police probably were deployed becuase of tax evasion but
surely tax evasion is first detected by HM customs who then build a
case and act. It is not therefore the job of PC Plod on the streets of
Postle Park to step out and detain a motorist whos vehicle might be
emitting an unseemly whiff of cooking chips or fried Mars Bars. I say
again,what business is it of Government or Police if i want to put
Cooking oil in my car?. If i put water in my car would it be ok?.
If it really does smell that bad, it's probably breaking the emissions part
of the MOT, and therefore could be considered unroadworthy. They can pull
you over for a faulty silencer too. |
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| Clusterlove |
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:32 pm |
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Quote: "That's my Retirement Grease!!!"
You wouldn't happen to be the lead singer from "Dread Zeppelin", by
any chance? An excellent band...
It's true, chip fat makes great diesel fuel, but it has to be used
chip fat! So, the more chips you consume, the further you can drive...
One option would be a good environmental move: used cooking oil is
supposed to be quite difficult to dispose of effectively without
impacting on the environment for many restaurants and cafe businesses,
so a used cooking oil collection service would be a great free
enterprise in the event of widespread use of chip fat fuel...
Here's McDonlad's chance to do something mature for the populous, for
a change. Just think of all that wasted french fry oil... |
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| Dai Ichi |
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:04 pm |
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libertystrikesback@yahoo.co.uk (Freeman) wrote in message news:<59b7797b.0309060150.5ed3915d@posting.google.com>...
Quote: No, seriously! Car engines have to be adapted, but it works (though
your car may smell like a chip shop). Other alternatives include
biodiesel and bioethanol. For some of these you don't even have to
adapt your engine.
It's said that Britian could grow all the car fuel it needs on a
quarter of its agricultural land (which would be good for farmers too
in the current agricultural depression).
This might make an alternative to Big Oil flying airliners into
landmark buildings as an excuse to conquer the Middle East's oil
reserves.
Freeman
www.geocities.com/LibertyStrikesBack/
I wonder. I buy gasoline at 2.22/galon. But vegtable oil costs me
5.45/gallon (at Costco). I really wonder how economical it would
be...... Maybe if the agricultural industry could ramp up its
production (and assuming that supply always exceeds demand...)
But solutions to complex problems are only simple to simple-minded
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| alan hayes |
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 10:12 pm |
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Hobnoxious, or whatever stupid name you have, I never apologise to ignorant
cretins such as yourself, only normal, polite people, go insert your stupid
head into a milk bottle, it might just be big enough to fit.
"Hognoxious" <hognoxious _ k o s h e r @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "alan hayes" <alan.hayes1@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Well said, This world of ours needs a wake-up call, we have the
technology
to solve all our transportation problems without oil, I know at the
moment
we have to depend on the stuff to make practically everything we need,
but
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start could be made, and will have to be made soon, America will soon
need
more oil than it can import. I thought it particularly poingnant to see
Ragaa Omarr's (I apologise for the incorrect spelling)
Yeah, well there's a lot of it about.
Are you going to apologis for top posting too?
"Freeman" <libertystrikesback@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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No, seriously! Car engines have to be adapted, but it works (though
your car may smell like a chip shop). Other alternatives include
biodiesel and bioethanol. For some of these you don't even have to
adapt your engine.
No, seriously.
First, it's not gasolene - it's gasoline.
Second, it's called petrol over here.
Thirdly, chip fat works in *diesel* engines.
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| tarquinlinbin |
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:43 am |
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On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 16:53:23 +0000 (UTC), "sam1967@hetnet.nl"
<sam1967@hetnet.nl> wrote:
Quote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 17:00:36 +0100, tarquinlinbin
fleagle@myrealbox.com> wrote:
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:12:16 +0000 (UTC), "sam1967@hetnet.nl"
sam1967@hetnet.nl> wrote:
they were concerned about tax evasion i would imagine.
they could tax cooking oil as well i suppose.
however one of their arguments for such heavy taxation on petrol is to
curb its use because it is an environmental pollutant.
what are the pollutants released by cooking oil ?
Indeed the police probably were deployed becuase of tax evasion but
surely tax evasion is first detected by HM customs who then build a
case and act. It is not therefore the job of PC Plod on the streets of
Postle Park to step out and detain a motorist whos vehicle might be
emitting an unseemly whiff of cooking chips or fried Mars Bars. I say
again,what business is it of Government or Police if i want to put
Cooking oil in my car?. If i put water in my car would it be ok?.
i agree . no business whatever. but labour are totalitarians
par-excellence. btw it is possil park and i would advise anyone to run
through it very fast.
Yes I had heard this also!!,thanks for the correct spelling. |
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| tarquinlinbin |
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:44 am |
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 01:20:17 +0200, "Hognoxious" <hognoxious _ k o s h
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Quote: "tarquinlinbin" <fleagle@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:n01klvoim8vgg91inmbdoku6d654laqjil@4ax.com...
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:12:16 +0000 (UTC), "sam1967@hetnet.nl"
sam1967@hetnet.nl> wrote:
they were concerned about tax evasion i would imagine.
they could tax cooking oil as well i suppose.
however one of their arguments for such heavy taxation on petrol is to
curb its use because it is an environmental pollutant.
what are the pollutants released by cooking oil ?
Indeed the police probably were deployed becuase of tax evasion but
surely tax evasion is first detected by HM customs who then build a
case and act. It is not therefore the job of PC Plod on the streets of
Postle Park to step out and detain a motorist whos vehicle might be
emitting an unseemly whiff of cooking chips or fried Mars Bars. I say
again,what business is it of Government or Police if i want to put
Cooking oil in my car?. If i put water in my car would it be ok?.
If it really does smell that bad, it's probably breaking the emissions part
of the MOT, and therefore could be considered unroadworthy. They can pull
you over for a faulty silencer too.
Perhaps they should pull Tony Blair over.. |
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| Chip Anderson |
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:24 pm |
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libertystrikesback@yahoo.co.uk (Freeman) wrote in
news:59b7797b.0309060150.5ed3915d@posting.google.com:
Quote: No, seriously! Car engines have to be adapted, but it works (though
your car may smell like a chip shop). Other alternatives include
biodiesel and bioethanol. For some of these you don't even have to
adapt your engine.
It's said that Britian could grow all the car fuel it needs on a
quarter of its agricultural land (which would be good for farmers too
in the current agricultural depression).
-->snip unsubstantiated inuuendo<--
"CWT is the owner and developer of processes that convert industrial waste
and low-value streams into fuels, oils, gases and carbons, with no
hazardous emissions into the environment."
<http://www.changingworldtech.com/>
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Chip
http://www.chip.ods.org
"Oderint dum metuant."
- Lucius Accius |
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| Chip Anderson |
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:27 pm |
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"alan hayes" <alan.hayes1@btinternet.com> wrote in
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Quote: Hobnoxious, or whatever stupid name you have, I never apologise to
ignorant cretins such as yourself, only normal, polite people, go
insert your stupid head into a milk bottle, it might just be big
enough to fit. "Hognoxious" <hognoxious _ k o s h e r @hotmail.com
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Quote: First, it's not gasolene - it's gasoline.
Second, it's called petrol over here.
Thirdly, chip fat works in *diesel* engines.
He may be a cretin but you're the ignorant(or rude) top poster.
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Chip
http://www.chip.ods.org
"Oderint dum metuant."
- Lucius Accius |
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| The Great Gabbo |
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:32 pm |
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"Chip Anderson" <b_andersNOSPAM@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Quote: libertystrikesback@yahoo.co.uk (Freeman) wrote in
news:59b7797b.0309060150.5ed3915d@posting.google.com:
No, seriously! Car engines have to be adapted, but it works (though
your car may smell like a chip shop). Other alternatives include
biodiesel and bioethanol. For some of these you don't even have to
adapt your engine.
It's said that Britian could grow all the car fuel it needs on a
quarter of its agricultural land (which would be good for farmers too
in the current agricultural depression).
-->snip unsubstantiated inuuendo<--
All high performance race cars (as in CART or the Indy Racing League) run on
Methanol. The trouble is that when the race is over, they run pump
gasoline through the engines to make sure they can run again.
Don't start sounding like George W. Bush when he was going to invest a few
hundred million on Hydrogen. What's next? Warp Driver by Dubya? |
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| Hognoxious |
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:47 am |
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"Dai Ichi" <daiichi@terracox.syzygy-tech.com> wrote in message
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Quote: libertystrikesback@yahoo.co.uk (Freeman) wrote in message
news:<59b7797b.0309060150.5ed3915d@posting.google.com>...
I wonder. I buy gasoline at 2.22/galon. But vegtable oil costs me
5.45/gallon (at Costco). I really wonder how economical it would
be...... Maybe if the agricultural industry could ramp up its
production (and assuming that supply always exceeds demand...)
Why assume that?
I think the plan was to use waste oil (that had already been used for chips
and stuff), atleast that was what I saw on Top Gear. But just how much of
that is available? Even someone who eats chips everyday is unlikely to get
through a litre of oil a week. Can't drive far on that.
Quote: But solutions to complex problems are only simple to simple-minded
people.
Indeed. |
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| Ron |
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:05 pm |
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"Hognoxious" <hognoxious _ k o s h e r @hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3f5f1098$0$13858$ba620e4c@reader0.news.skynet.be>...
Quote: "Dai Ichi" <daiichi@terracox.syzygy-tech.com> wrote in message
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libertystrikesback@yahoo.co.uk (Freeman) wrote in message
news:<59b7797b.0309060150.5ed3915d@posting.google.com>...
I wonder. I buy gasoline at 2.22/galon. But vegtable oil costs me
5.45/gallon (at Costco). I really wonder how economical it would
be...... Maybe if the agricultural industry could ramp up its
production (and assuming that supply always exceeds demand...)
Why assume that?
I think the plan was to use waste oil (that had already been used for chips
and stuff), atleast that was what I saw on Top Gear. But just how much of
that is available? Even someone who eats chips everyday is unlikely to get
through a litre of oil a week. Can't drive far on that.
But solutions to complex problems are only simple to simple-minded
people.
Indeed.
The proper use for seed oils should be as a lubricant for ethanol in
diesel engines.
Mixing 8 gallons of canola oil to 100 gallons of ethanol will ensure
lubrication of the fuel pump and injectors.
Ethanol can be made in vast quantities from sugar beets, sugar cane,
and wood waste.
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| Hognoxious |
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 6:40 am |
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"Ron" <banmilk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
The proper use for seed oils should be as a lubricant for ethanol in
diesel engines.
Mixing 8 gallons of canola oil to 100 gallons of ethanol will ensure
lubrication of the fuel pump and injectors.
Ethanol can be made in vast quantities from sugar beets, sugar cane,
and wood waste.
Unfortunately, that requires land, which then cannot be used for growing
wheat, potatoes etc. |
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