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| John Turmel |
 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:53 pm |
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JCT: When I think back to the days in 2002 after York
University Osgoode Hall Law School Professor Alan Young had
helped the Crown Lara Speirs have Terry Parker's exemption
from Justice Pitt set aside as a default judgment, in his
letter titled "Alan Young's Statement To Our Cannabis
Movement and The Sick" on in April 2002 condemning me to
the Marijuana Party of Canada Leadership Election (which was
called off when I showed up to run), he said:
"I am forced to waste my time responding to John Turmel's
recent rant concerning my involvement in the Parker case.
Turmel has served a valuable purpose in keeping on top of
Health Canada through his numerous court cases. For this
effort I encouraged and supported Turmel. However, now he
has outlived his utility and he represents a danger to the
pot reform movement. At the outset Turmel may have had the
best intentions; however, now he is left with simple
showboating and grandstanding and this will not work to
change the law. I attended at the recent Parker hearing for
two purposes. First, to ensure that Turmel's motion to
invalidate the law would not proceeed. His motion will be
dismissed by any judge who hears it because the record is
incomplete and Turmel does not understand the legal
argument."
JCT: And it now ends up that I was right all along, that
Justice Pitt was right in determining that the Ontario
Medical Association telling Terry Parker's doctor not to
sign the MMAR was enough proof that the MMAR had failed to
comply with the Parker Court's ruling on time. Justice Pitt
even said he was protecting Parker "until the Government has
complied with the court's ruling."
Of course we know he helped the Crown set aside the Pitt
decision because he was convinced "the record is incomplete
and Turmel does not understand the legal argument."
The fact he was wrong and helped set aside the only correct
ruling that the MMAR had failed is one of his biggest
bloopers. I think his biggest blooper is trying to fix the
MMAR which, oops, gave the Ontario Court of Appeal's
substitutes for Parliament the chance to say they brought
the prohibition back to life.
Alan Young, legal champion of the Canadian medpot movement.
Har har har har.
Actually, it's the way I use to distinguish if a supporter
is a moron or a mole. If you approve of Alan Young helping
the Crown take away Parker's exemption or you approve of
Alan Young helping the court bring the law back to life,
then you're a moron or a mole.
If you support Marc Emery who hushed up the Parker decision,
Young's stab in the back, Paquette winning a 4-page 1-doctor
renewal form for Canada's exemptees, who jumped up out of a
crowd to confess to trafficking a joint and then pled
guilty, then you're a moron or a mole.
If you support any of the Hitzig applicants who helped Alan
Young fix the MMAR, Alison Myrden, Marco Renda, you're
morons or moles. Marco claims he's not a mole.
Now notice the next line about his Hitzig application from
that letter:
"The decision is Parker's to make. We will be successful in
invalidating the marijuana possession offence and
invalidating the horrible regulatory regime by year's end."
JCT: And the Professeur Saboteur's attempt to invalidate the
marijuana possession offence (which Justice Pitt had said
was already invalidated) was successful not in invalidating
but in re-validating the marijuana possession offence. Oops.
"Turmel's attempt to rush this important application will
backfire and he will set back the movement by many years."
JCT: We all know now that the law died on Terry Parker Day.
Justice Nadeau just dropped a possession charge against Real
Martin in Cochrane Ontario December 5 2005 for that reason.
And by now Justice Pitt has been first to declare that the
MMAR had failed to comply (the declaration Young still
sought out of Lederman!) so trying to invalidate the law
that had already been invalidated wasn't rushing things!
"I also attended the hearing to ensure that Parker would
walk out of court with protection from prosecution. The
"Pitt" order which Turmel is so excited about is not worth
the paper it is written on and any judge would set it aside
without hesitation. The judge we appeared in front of was
prepared to set aside the order and I convinced her to
replace Pitt's order with a constitutional exemption which
would protect Parker throughout the time it takes to bring a
proper application to strike down the law. The judge sent us
out of court to draft the terms of the constitutional
exemption but Turmel convinced Parker not to play ball. He
gave Parker the worst possible advice and look what
happened.
JCT: His deal for Parker was the same protection out of
Chapnik as he got from Justice Pitt except that we lose the
quote: "until the Government has complied with the court's
ruling" from his decision.
"Two days later the judge rescinded the Pitt order and
refused to grant Parker the exemption I had arranged. She
was so put off by Turmel that she ended up screwing
Parker."
JCT: I trusted it was too important a point to cede
voluntarily and deterred Terry from taking the Chapnik deal
and sticking with his Pitt protection no matter if the
kangaroo court says an equal judge to Pitt J. can set his
ruling aside. They can't. Har har har har. But I played
along knowing Pitt could not be set aside in civil court.
Har har har har.
"In fact, it was Turmel who screwed Parker and I want
people to know that it is very dangerous to rely upon Turmel
to assist sick people with legal issues. I want everyone to
exercise extreme caution before relying upon the circus-
lawyer. As for Turmel's insulting words I could not care
less. I have worked hard on a pro bono basis for the past
five years for sick people and I am not going to allow
Turmel's words to sour my experience.
JCT: Except I was right that the law was dead and got 4000
people off while many of the 100,000 people who were
convicted while the law was dead were convicted after Alan
Young helped the Crown delay the declaration of invalidity.
Think about that! I met a gambler at the poker table the
other day who had been convicted during the 2 years period
while the law was dead. He was most upset his lawyer didn't
know. I can always point out Alan Young's role in being
wrong about when the Parker invalidation took place.
"As for Turmel expressing a desire to "puke" on me, I think
that his expression demonstrates the lack of sophistication
and immaturity in his discourse."
JCT: It got him to shoot off his mouth without thinking.
"I am not impressed and I hope that others realize that
Turmel is nothing more than an abusive paper tiger.
Alan Young"
JCT: Anyway, if they like Young and they don't like Turmel,
you can peg them pretty quickly. Morons or moles. If they
like Turmel and don't like Young, they've opened their eyes.
After all, I have no ulterior motives. I just want to
legalize harmless Tree-of-Life and then get back full time
to engineering the banking system of life: UNILETS time-
based money.
If anyone thinks I should stop beating a dead horse, I have
to insist that there are lessons in this. Canada's top
medpot lawyers, Young with the Wakeford and Hitzig rulings,
Burstein with the Clay and J.P. rulings, Malmo-Levine, their
rulings always hurt the movement. And yet, there they are on
the stages taking bows despite their bloopers.
Canada's top publisher Marc The Narc Emery is in the loop.
His stooge for never-elected leader-for-life of the
Marijuana Party of Canada Marc-Boris St-Maurice too. Current
leader Blair Longley who helped orchestrate the denial of my
chance to rebut Young's charges at the 2002 Leadership vote
they called off. And now Blair Longley's leading my friends
in the party.
I've had to fight the narc moles all the way and they have
all always been exposed near the top. You don't find the
narc plants in the bottom echelons of the movement, look to
the top. The ones we see on stage being built up in the
media, they're the bellwethers, the Judas goats, we have to
beat.
And I'll keep beating the "dead" horse to keep reminding
people of how almost everyone at the top of the pro-pot
establishment have proven to be narc moles. Just as Fletcher
Prouty explained in his great book: The Secret Team.
He's the guy in the JFK movie by Oliver Stone (the greatest
most complete exposure of that conspiracy) played by Donald
Sutherland who was the Pentagon's liaison with the CIA in
its world-controlling hey-day.
If they're not with me, they're against me or in my way and
get treated accordingly. |
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