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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:12 pm |
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On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:54:50 -0500, "Steven L. Robinson"
<srobin21@comcast.net> wrote:
[quote:66376ba19f]The union notes that Wal-Mart's "hometown" judge in Arkansas issued a
nationwide temporary restraining order against the UFCW, barring anyone
associated with the union from entering Wal-Mart facilities to educate
workers about their legal rights in the workplace. The union, however,
successfully appealed the order-noting that the judge holds more than
$500,000 in Wal-Mart stock.
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God Bless America!
And this judge is not now serving 10-20 in a federal penitentiary why,
exactly?
-- Roy L |
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| rvfulltime (was xenman) |
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:41 pm |
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On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:54:50 -0500, "Steven L. Robinson" <srobin21@comcast.net> wrote:
[quote:0b6f2edef8]Wal-Mart's First Lady
Hillary's Past Belies Her Support of Labor
by Ward Harkavy
THE VILLAGE VOICE
May 24 - 30, 2000
Twice in three days last week, Hillary Rodham Clinton basked in the
adulation of cheering union members. Her record of supporting collective
bargaining, however, is considerably worse than wobbly.
Pity the thousands of unionists at last Tuesday's state Democratic
convention who chanted her name, and the hundreds of retired Teamsters at
Thursday's luncheon in midtown who had interrupted their Founder's Day meal
to hear the corporate litigator turned union-loving Democrat deliver a
campaign speech.
They would have dropped their forks if they had heard that Hillary served
for six years on the board of the dreaded Wal-Mart, a union-busting
behemoth. If they had learned the details of her friendship with Wal-Mart,
they might have lost their lunches.
[snip][/quote:0b6f2edef8]
Please identify the union that was "busted" by Wal-Mart. |
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| Steven L. Robinson |
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:57 pm |
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United Food and Commercial Workers has been trying to organize Wal-Mart for
years. A meat cutters union organized some locations in Texas at which time
Wal-Mart closed the meat department in those particular stores. There are
further examples from Canada. SR
[quote:c5602e40d8]
Please identify the union that was "busted" by Wal-Mart.
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| rvfulltime (was xenman) |
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:12 pm |
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:57:58 -0500, "Steven L. Robinson" <srobin21@comcast.net> wrote:
[quote:94be8a4c2c]United Food and Commercial Workers has been trying to organize Wal-Mart for
years. A meat cutters union organized some locations in Texas at which time
Wal-Mart closed the meat department in those particular stores. There are
further examples from Canada. SR
Please identify the union that was "busted" by Wal-Mart.
[/quote:94be8a4c2c]
The question was not "Which unions were unsuccessful in organizing workers at
Wal-Mart?".
Wal-Mart did not bust the meat cutters union. They switched nation wide from
locally cut meat to the safer "boxed" meat. The switch over occurred nation wide
two weeks after the meat cutters unionized. When one considers the months of
planning needed to facilitate that kind of operational change, it could hardly be
described as a reaction to unionization efforts. The meat cutters were offered
jobs elsewhere in the company. Just image the glean in a tort lawyer's eye when
they discover that Wal-Mart was cutting meat by their own butchers when safer
boxed meat could be sold. It was a sound business decision.
So once again, what unions were busted. |
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| Steven L. Robinson |
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:36 pm |
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When you consider what happened in Canada after stores were unionized - they
were shut down - it is hard to credit the mere coincidence theory that you
posit. You betray your ignorance [Attributable to talk radio or Faux News
perhaps?]when you speak of the 'glean in a tort lawyer's eye' over work
place injuries to butchers. Such injuries are not torts in this country, but
are part of the worker's compensation system. The injured worker gets no
windfall but is, after long waits and endless red tape, given medical help
and a pittance to live on until he or she is able to work again. SR
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The switch over occurred nation wide
[quote:5d00a2b8fb]two weeks after the meat cutters unionized. When one considers the months
of
planning needed to facilitate that kind of operational change, it could
hardly be
described as a reaction to unionization efforts. The meat cutters were
offered
jobs elsewhere in the company. Just image the glean in a tort lawyer's
eye when
they discover that Wal-Mart was cutting meat by their own butchers when
safer
boxed meat could be sold. It was a sound business decision.
So once again, what unions were busted.
[/quote:5d00a2b8fb]
"rvfulltime (was xenman)" <rvfulltime@_removeme_isp.com> wrote in message
news:kd6tm1luv4p8q6vmifq56ac40t4bq0hlb8@4ax.com...
[quote:5d00a2b8fb]On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:57:58 -0500, "Steven L. Robinson"
srobin21@comcast.net> wrote:[/quote:5d00a2b8fb]
[quote:5d00a2b8fb]Wal-Mart did not bust the meat cutters union. They switched nation wide
from
locally cut meat to the safer "boxed" meat. The switch over occurred
nation wide
two weeks after the meat cutters unionized. When one considers the months
of
planning needed to facilitate that kind of operational change, it could
hardly be
described as a reaction to unionization efforts. The meat cutters were
offered
jobs elsewhere in the company. Just image the glean in a tort lawyer's
eye when
they discover that Wal-Mart was cutting meat by their own butchers when
safer
boxed meat could be sold. It was a sound business decision.
So once again, what unions were busted.[/quote:5d00a2b8fb] |
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| rvfulltime (was xenman) |
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:37 pm |
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:36:50 -0500, "Steven L. Robinson" <srobin21@comcast.net> wrote:
[quote:38d994b587]When you consider what happened in Canada after stores were unionized - they
were shut down - it is hard to credit the mere coincidence theory that you
posit. You betray your ignorance [Attributable to talk radio or Faux News
perhaps?]when you speak of the 'glean in a tort lawyer's eye' over work
place injuries to butchers. Such injuries are not torts in this country, but
are part of the worker's compensation system. The injured worker gets no
windfall but is, after long waits and endless red tape, given medical help
and a pittance to live on until he or she is able to work again. SR
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The switch over occurred nation wide
two weeks after the meat cutters unionized. When one considers the months
of
planning needed to facilitate that kind of operational change, it could
hardly be
described as a reaction to unionization efforts. The meat cutters were
offered
jobs elsewhere in the company. Just image the glean in a tort lawyer's
eye when
they discover that Wal-Mart was cutting meat by their own butchers when
safer
boxed meat could be sold. It was a sound business decision.
So once again, what unions were busted.
"rvfulltime (was xenman)" <rvfulltime@_removeme_isp.com> wrote in message
news:kd6tm1luv4p8q6vmifq56ac40t4bq0hlb8@4ax.com...
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:57:58 -0500, "Steven L. Robinson"
srobin21@comcast.net> wrote:
Wal-Mart did not bust the meat cutters union. They switched nation wide
from
locally cut meat to the safer "boxed" meat. The switch over occurred
nation wide
two weeks after the meat cutters unionized. When one considers the months
of
planning needed to facilitate that kind of operational change, it could
hardly be
described as a reaction to unionization efforts. The meat cutters were
offered
jobs elsewhere in the company. Just image the glean in a tort lawyer's
eye when
they discover that Wal-Mart was cutting meat by their own butchers when
safer
boxed meat could be sold. It was a sound business decision.
So once again, what unions were busted.
[/quote:38d994b587]
So why should stores that don't make a profit be kept open as was
the case in Quebec. Wal-Mart has closed stores in the past that
weren't making a profit. Closing money losing operations is NOT
union busting.
The tort lawyer comment was referring to customers that might get
sick eating tainted meat. The reference to work place injuries is
something that you made up. Locally cut meat has a higher incidence
of contamination when compared to "boxed meat". I suspect this
is because boxed meat is cut in larger shops where there is more
of an assembly line approach with more set procedures and more
supervision. |
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