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| Jim Oberg |
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| Greg Kuperberg |
| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:27 pm |
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In article <tzvQd.62602$uL5.61077@fe2.texas.rr.com>,
Jim Oberg <jameseoberg@houston.rr.com> wrote:
[quote:3d834359cd]Jim Oberg adds: here's some background on "Son of O'Keefe" -- another
economist --
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Sean O'Keefe's background (and career) is in management, not economics or
finance. Crippen would be an economist for NASA, not "another" economist.
I also note that the acting administrator, Frederick Gregory, is not by
training a rocket engineer, a manager, or an economist; he's an astronaut.
There seem to be a lot of them in high places at and around NASA these
days.
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| Andrew Gray |
| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:41 pm |
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On 2005-02-15, Jim Oberg <jameseoberg@houston.rr.com> wrote:
[quote:98509e8a22]REPORT: new NASA head -- Dan Crippen, economist and public health systems
expert
Keith Cowing's usually-reliable 'NASA WATCH' says new NASA head will be Dan
Crippen.
"Editor's note:Word is rushing around Washington DC and Capitol Hill that
the President will make an announcement tomorrow morning around 10:00 am
that he intends to nominate Dan Crippen to be the next Administrator of
NASA. Reporters are calling staffers and staffers are calling reporters to
see what they know about Crippen. Stay tuned."
[/quote:98509e8a22]
And he appends:
Update: White House sources now say that there are no current plans to
make an announcement about the NASA Administrator nominee tomorrow.
Moreover, the traditional pre-announcement briefings on the Hill have
not happened yet.
More media-induced stray voltage? Sure sounds like it. Stay tuned.
We shall see...
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| Herb Schaltegger |
| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:25 pm |
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In article <slrnd1525v.nfm.andrew.gray@compsoc.dur.ac.uk>,
Andrew Gray <andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk> wrote:
[quote:ca1686b0d4]Update: White House sources now say that there are no current plans to
make an announcement about the NASA Administrator nominee tomorrow.
Moreover, the traditional pre-announcement briefings on the Hill have
not happened yet.
More media-induced stray voltage? Sure sounds like it. Stay tuned.
[/quote:ca1686b0d4]
Stuff like this is rarely "media-induced" despite the tendency to
blame "the media" for everything. Sounds MUCH more like classic trial
balloon to me.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:43 pm |
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| Paul F. Dietz |
| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:18 pm |
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lifeform1@atlantic.net wrote:
[quote:438c0b410c]Be afraid. Be very afraid.
[/quote:438c0b410c]
Oh good god... don't tell me you successfully reproduced?!
Paul |
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| Rand Simberg |
| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:52 pm |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:25:34 -0600, in a place far, far away, Herb
Schaltegger <herb.schaltegger@gmail.com.invalid> made the phosphor on
my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:
[quote:400948de03]Update: White House sources now say that there are no current plans to
make an announcement about the NASA Administrator nominee tomorrow.
Moreover, the traditional pre-announcement briefings on the Hill have
not happened yet.
More media-induced stray voltage? Sure sounds like it. Stay tuned.
Stuff like this is rarely "media-induced" despite the tendency to
blame "the media" for everything. Sounds MUCH more like classic trial
balloon to me.
[/quote:400948de03]
That would presume that most of the media (and its consumers) actually
care about who the NASA administrator is... |
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| David Higgins |
| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:32 am |
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Paul F. Dietz wrote:
[quote:21d2660fa3]lifeform1@atlantic.net wrote:
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Oh good god... don't tell me you successfully reproduced?!
Paul
[/quote:21d2660fa3]
By mitosis, no doubt.  |
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| Eric Chomko |
| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:47 am |
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Rand Simberg (simberg.interglobal@org.trash) wrote:
: On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:25:34 -0600, in a place far, far away, Herb
: Schaltegger <herb.schaltegger@gmail.com.invalid> made the phosphor on
: my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:
: >> Update: White House sources now say that there are no current plans to
: >> make an announcement about the NASA Administrator nominee tomorrow.
: >> Moreover, the traditional pre-announcement briefings on the Hill have
: >> not happened yet.
: >> More media-induced stray voltage? Sure sounds like it. Stay tuned.
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: >Stuff like this is rarely "media-induced" despite the tendency to
: >blame "the media" for everything. Sounds MUCH more like classic trial
: >balloon to me.
: That would presume that most of the media (and its consumers) actually
: care about who the NASA administrator is...
Well in the space industry and in government around DC they care. |
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| Eric Chomko |
| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:50 am |
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Paul F. Dietz (dietz@dls.net) wrote:
: lifeform1@atlantic.net wrote:
: > Be afraid. Be very afraid.
: Oh good god... don't tell me you successfully reproduced?!
Now that's funny!
: Paul |
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| Peter Card |
| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:02 am |
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Jim Oberg wrote:
[quote:cb46b4c3ca]Keith Cowing's usually-reliable 'NASA WATCH' says new NASA head will be Dan
Crippen.
[..]
his PhD is in 'Public Finance' and his government specialization was in
public health....
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Oh dear. What an unfortunate name.
Lets hope that NASA doesn't end up poisoned and chopped into little
pieces while "Dr Crippen" makes a transatlantic break for freedom ...
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:52 am |
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February 16, 2005
Peter Card wrote:
[quote:b454461a03]Keith Cowing's usually-reliable 'NASA WATCH' says new NASA head
will be Dan
Crippen.
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his PhD is in 'Public Finance' and his government specialization
was in
public health....
Oh dear. What an unfortunate name.
Lets hope that NASA doesn't end up poisoned and chopped into little
pieces while "Dr Crippen" makes a transatlantic break for freedom ...
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Very subtle. I like that.
When I first heard the name I thought they meant
Bob Crippen, and I thought HOORAY! A brave man
to direct and lead NASA! The last thing NASA
needs is yet another 'administrator'.
We need bravery.
Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net |
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| Henry Spencer |
| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:16 pm |
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In article <1108569145.716838.165210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<lifeform1@atlantic.net> wrote:
[quote:66c118b5a6]When I first heard the name I thought they meant
Bob Crippen, and I thought HOORAY! A brave man
to direct and lead NASA!
[/quote:66c118b5a6]
The last time an astronaut directed and led NASA was an utter disaster --
including the total ruin of Bush Sr.'s attempt at resuming manned space
exploration -- and gained him the unenviable distinction of being the
first NASA Administrator to be fired. Managerial skill is more important
than bravery for that job.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:30 pm |
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February 15, 2005
Henry Spencer wrote:
[quote:e64c3f4d62]In article <1108569145.716838.165210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
lifeform1@atlantic.net> wrote:
When I first heard the name I thought they meant
Bob Crippen, and I thought HOORAY! A brave man
to direct and lead NASA!
The last time an astronaut directed and led NASA was an utter
disaster --
including the total ruin of Bush Sr.'s attempt at resuming manned
space
exploration
[/quote:e64c3f4d62]
That thing needed to be trashed, just like the
VSE - Visiting Space Expensively needs to be trashed.
That takes bravery. What we need is a leader and a
director smart enough and brave enough to see that,
someone who can override the presidential directive
and take it back to the beginning, propulsion and
launch, energy conversion and life support, the
four pillars of space colonization.
-- and gained him the unenviable distinction of being the
[quote:e64c3f4d62]first NASA Administrator to be fired.
[/quote:e64c3f4d62]
He got the shuttle flying again, that was his only
job description at the time. We all know what the
ISS and faster better cheaper morphed into.
[quote:e64c3f4d62]Managerial skill is more important
than bravery for that job.
[/quote:e64c3f4d62]
Yes, we need administrators to administrate the
administration, old man. Nothing ever changes.
What we need is a rocket scientist.
Combining rocketry and space science.
After we get that sorted out, the
rest will follow. VSE is crap.
Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net |
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| George William Herbert |
| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:36 pm |
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Rand Simberg <simberg.interglobal@org.trash> wrote:
[quote:932fb8a796]Herb Schaltegger <herb.schaltegger@gmail.com.invalid> glowed:
Update: White House sources now say that there are no current plans to
make an announcement about the NASA Administrator nominee tomorrow.
Moreover, the traditional pre-announcement briefings on the Hill have
not happened yet.
More media-induced stray voltage? Sure sounds like it. Stay tuned.
Stuff like this is rarely "media-induced" despite the tendency to
blame "the media" for everything. Sounds MUCH more like classic trial
balloon to me.
That would presume that most of the media (and its consumers) actually
care about who the NASA administrator is...
[/quote:932fb8a796]
There is a space (and greater aerospace) centric media, which does
a lot of NASA watching.
Stuff can be "media-induced" by a single reporter on the beat,
sometimes...
For example, NASA Watch. Keith does a decent job of introspective
criticism, but he also puts some stuff up which wouldn't pass
fact checking for "normal" publication. Some of which is
rumors and some of which is just single source info which is
basically good. He makes an attempt to have info indicate how
well sourced it is.
-george william herbert
gherbert@retro.com |
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