I don't really think there is such a thing as "The Unconscious" or maybe
it's that I don't think there is such a thing as "The Subconscious".

To say "the" subconscious sounds like there is some kind of subconscious
is similar in all people... like "the medulla" or "the cerebellum". But
what
is
in the subconscious is sort of like saying "who is in your country?". I
hope
this is a good analogy. If your country is mostly Protestant then things
Catholic
would more likely be kept outside of the country. If your country is one
where
hardship is a condition of life, then art, music, and literature would
probably
not be found there (this is just an analogy, ok?). If your country is in a
region
where there is natural protection against outside invasion then your
country
will have less weapons and...

well anyway, analogy or not, the subconscious, part of which is that which
is
repressed is determined by many things and the things that are considered
"unthinkable" differ from family to family and culture to culture.

So what's the proof of the unconscious? I say that the whole idea of
conditioning
is an unconscious/subconscious process. If you believe that operant
conditioning
exists then you have to also believe/accept that the subconscious exists.

I think subconscious is the awareness which is so ground up into what you
are that you are barely aware of it. When you automatically put on your
best colors because a seductive member of the opposite sex was near, that
is
the subconcious at work. If you dream at night about some big problem in
your family, and wake up with the answer, that was your subconscious at
work.

Your conscious mind is where you keep your free will, free wheeling.
But your peripheral vision of your will...that is your subconscious.

The mind controls things automatically without a real thought given to it.
That is the subconscious.

I would not make it without my subconscious. Because of all the things I
have programmed into it, it handles many jobs for me.

"Not so quick" <goodideaSSPPAAMM@lvcm.com> wrote in message
news:BBuGb.65119$pY.60989@fed1read04...
I don't really think there is such a thing as "The Unconscious" or maybe
it's that I don't think there is such a thing as "The Subconscious".

To say "the" subconscious sounds like there is some kind of subconscious
is similar in all people... like "the medulla" or "the cerebellum". But
what
is
in the subconscious is sort of like saying "who is in your country?". I
hope
this is a good analogy. If your country is mostly Protestant then things
Catholic
would more likely be kept outside of the country. If your country is one
where
hardship is a condition of life, then art, music, and literature would
probably
not be found there (this is just an analogy, ok?). If your country is in
a
region
where there is natural protection against outside invasion then your
country
will have less weapons and...

well anyway, analogy or not, the subconscious, part of which is that
which
is
repressed is determined by many things and the things that are
considered
"unthinkable" differ from family to family and culture to culture.

So what's the proof of the unconscious? I say that the whole idea of
conditioning
is an unconscious/subconscious process. If you believe that operant
conditioning
exists then you have to also believe/accept that the subconscious
exists.

I don't really think there is such a thing as "The Unconscious" or maybe
it's that I don't think there is such a thing as "The Subconscious".

To say "the" subconscious sounds like there is some kind of subconscious
is similar in all people... like "the medulla" or "the cerebellum". But what
is
in the subconscious is sort of like saying "who is in your country?". I hope
this is a good analogy. If your country is mostly Protestant then things
Catholic
would more likely be kept outside of the country. If your country is one
where
hardship is a condition of life, then art, music, and literature would
probably
not be found there (this is just an analogy, ok?). If your country is in a
region
where there is natural protection against outside invasion then your country
will have less weapons and...

well anyway, analogy or not, the subconscious, part of which is that which
is
repressed is determined by many things and the things that are considered
"unthinkable" differ from family to family and culture to culture.

So what's the proof of the unconscious? I say that the whole idea of
conditioning
is an unconscious/subconscious process. If you believe that operant
conditioning
exists then you have to also believe/accept that the subconscious exists.
Till today consciousness et al. has stayed in semantics. There was no

"Not so quick" <goodideaSSPPAAMM@lvcm.com> wrote in message
news:<BBuGb.65119$pY.60989@fed1read04>...
I don't really think there is such a thing as "The Unconscious" or maybe
it's that I don't think there is such a thing as "The Subconscious".

To say "the" subconscious sounds like there is some kind of subconscious
is similar in all people... like "the medulla" or "the cerebellum". But
what
is
in the subconscious is sort of like saying "who is in your country?". I
hope
this is a good analogy. If your country is mostly Protestant then things
Catholic
would more likely be kept outside of the country. If your country is one
where
hardship is a condition of life, then art, music, and literature would
probably
not be found there (this is just an analogy, ok?). If your country is in
a
region
where there is natural protection against outside invasion then your
country
will have less weapons and...

well anyway, analogy or not, the subconscious, part of which is that
which
is
repressed is determined by many things and the things that are
considered
"unthinkable" differ from family to family and culture to culture.

So what's the proof of the unconscious? I say that the whole idea of
conditioning
is an unconscious/subconscious process. If you believe that operant
conditioning
exists then you have to also believe/accept that the subconscious
exists.
Till today consciousness et al. has stayed in semantics. There was no
mechanical image behind. When we look to this enigma in terms of
dynamic geometry and topology in a spacetime model with a
non-breakable membrane (a variation on String/Brane theory) then
every discrete zone (QM package or holon) contains duality,
multi-dualities etc and membrane layers act as isolators AND
conductor of vibrations.

A knowledge "knot" or information holon can be seen as a QM package
with many incorporate membrane layers which are in constant vibration.
To use a simple analogy: a knowledge knot can be seen as a BASKET that
contains i.e. eggs, an apple, a photo of John, a key, a mobile phone,
a fork, a CD, a bottle with water. All these items inside the basket
are also membranically connected to other baskets. When we see
(sensor) John ... we will also co-activate this basket but also all
other baskets in which John-related items are stored. In our
consciousness we will attention (or priority) to some of these
baskets.

The processes involved with consciousness, unconsciousness, etc. can
be expressed as vibrations shifts between membrane layers (spacetime
geometry).