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| Skip Turdlington... |
 Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:50 am |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:28:24 -0700, BradGuth wrote:
[quote:b64ef9b566]Here’s another edited food for thought topic, about our local planetoid
Selene/moon that has a little something hollow to say about itself;
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Thanks you very much Brad. It is always refreshing to read your work. I
wonder how long it will take for mainstream science to fully understand
the ramifications.
The bigger question of course is how did this hollowing of the moon
occcur? Was it caused by outgassing when the moon was formed, was it
caused by space erosion, or was it caused by alien mining operations?
Think about the deficit of iron on the Moon. Establishment 'science' says
we have to believe that two planets collided and formed the Moon, and
that the Moon was unlucky and didn't recieve much iron. This is
preposterous in the extreme. Such a collision would have vaporized the
Earth and the other alleged planet, neighboring planets would have been
destabilized and been drawn in to Sun's fiery furnaces.
The very fact that you and I and the Moon exist today is proof that this
tall tale of planetary catastrophe never happened.
No, the lack of iron on the Moon is proof positive that it has been
extensively mined. Mining activity is still taking place on the dark side
and has been observed by NASA missions. One has to wonder why NASA still
even bothers to suppress this information given that the facts have been
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| hanson... |
| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:59 am |
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"BradGuth" <bradguth at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote crap:
[quote:4faa71cfad]vtcapo <vtc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote good stuff:
Skip Turdlington <skipt... at (no spam) invalid.com> wrote good stuff :
BradGuth wrote:[/quote:4faa71cfad]
Here’s another edited food for thought topic, about our local planetoid
Selene/moon that has a little something hollow to say about itself;
.....hollow like Brad Guth himself is....
[quote:4faa71cfad]
Skip Turdlington wrote:[/quote:4faa71cfad]
Thanks you very much Brad. Was it caused by [your] outgassing
or was it caused by alien mining operations?
[quote:4faa71cfad]
vtcapo <vtc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:[/quote:4faa71cfad]
Is it true that on one of the Apollo Missions, after putting down
sensing devices they blasted off and when the landing pod fell
back and hit, the moon sounded like a bell?
hanson wrote:
yeah, yeah, listen closely to Brad's tripe below. It still rings in his
ears... but with Brad it's not his tinnitus:
[quote:4faa71cfad]
Brad wrote:[/quote:4faa71cfad]
The moon is to some extent hollow, but as to how much hollow
and/or to what extent of hosting a low density interior is yet unknown.
I'd like to think of the moon as 10% hollow, only because that would
be extremely nifty.
[quote:4faa71cfad]
hanson worte:[/quote:4faa71cfad]
Yeah, yeah Brad, that hosting would be Selenic music to your ears,
huh... far better then your tinnitus. --- Brad, your tinnitus comes
from your overmedication. Go bag on your quack. He is probably
Jewish and in it for the money...
Thanks for the laughs, guys... ahahaha... ahahanson |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:07 am |
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On Jul 13, 1:55 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:b2eeea4aff]BradGuth wrote:
How many personally safe interior habitats is 2.2e18 m3 actually
worth?
At 1000 m3 per habitat is offering 2.2e12 units. Given a wide
percentage (more than half) for a rational (meaning intelligent)
infrastructure is still going to offer 1e12 units of 1e3 m3 each.
However, even if we’re talking of a 1% hollow Selene is still offering
an off-world viable habitat that’s worthy of safely hosting 100
billion units, along with 55% as still going for infrastructure.
Seems more than adequate if such a semi-hollow moon were to be
utilized as an off-world shelter or that of an interstellar survival
craft (red supergiant and helium flashover lifeboat), and of course
all the better yet if it became heavily iced over along the way.
So you're hoping the Moon is hollow, so you can live there?
Yousuf Khan
[/quote:b2eeea4aff]
If humanity stays on this self-destruct policy, and remains
politically as well as in faith-based denial to boot, we may have few
options but to consider abandoning ship, so to speak.
For the honest argument sake of showing how easily a slight shift in
average density gives us that 1% hollow moon.
Paramagnetic basalt density via cobalt, iron, thorium, uranium, radium
and nickel can easily become worth <5g/cm3, as opposed to nearly pure
terrestrial basalt >2.7 g/cm3. Using an average density of 3.36 g/cm3
seems perfectly reasonable, as well as 3.7 g/cm3 isn’t entirely out of
line.
Radius
1738.0 km = 2.1991e19 m3
869.0 km = 2.7488e18 m3
434.5 km = 3.4360e17 m3
374.45 km = 2.1992e17 m3 (1% volume)
173.8 km = 2.1991e+16 m3 (.1% volume)
At 1% hollow, the solid volume offers 2.177e19 m3 x 3.36e3 = 7.315e22
kg
At 10% hollow, the solid volume offers 1.9792e19 m3 x 3.7e3 = 7.32e22
kg
So, which is it?
~ BG |
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| Yousuf Khan... |
| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:55 pm |
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BradGuth wrote:
[quote:ef43c25ad3]How many personally safe interior habitats is 2.2e18 m3 actually
worth?
At 1000 m3 per habitat is offering 2.2e12 units. Given a wide
percentage (more than half) for a rational (meaning intelligent)
infrastructure is still going to offer 1e12 units of 1e3 m3 each.
However, even if we’re talking of a 1% hollow Selene is still offering
an off-world viable habitat that’s worthy of safely hosting 100
billion units, along with 55% as still going for infrastructure.
Seems more than adequate if such a semi-hollow moon were to be
utilized as an off-world shelter or that of an interstellar survival
craft (red supergiant and helium flashover lifeboat), and of course
all the better yet if it became heavily iced over along the way.
[/quote:ef43c25ad3]
So you're hoping the Moon is hollow, so you can live there?
Yousuf Khan |
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| Yousuf Khan... |
| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:58 pm |
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Skip Turdlington wrote:
[quote:3a19af3bdc]No, the lack of iron on the Moon is proof positive that it has been
extensively mined. Mining activity is still taking place on the dark side
and has been observed by NASA missions. One has to wonder why NASA still
even bothers to suppress this information given that the facts have been
widely disseminated via the internet.
[/quote:3a19af3bdc]
That is if you actually believe that NASA even got to the Moon! :-)
Yousuf Khan |
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| Pat Flannery... |
| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:36 pm |
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
[quote:09a6974756]
So you're hoping the Moon is hollow, so you can live there?
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Hell, I'm hoping Pluto is hollow, so he can live there instead. :-D
Pat |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:38 am |
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On Jul 13, 10:36 pm, Pat Flannery <flan... at (no spam) daktel.com> wrote:
[quote:18aee25b70]Yousuf Khan wrote:
So you're hoping the Moon is hollow, so you can live there?
Hell, I'm hoping Pluto is hollow, so he can live there instead. :-D
Pat
[/quote:18aee25b70]
If humanity stays on this auto-destruct, environmentally unfriendly
and anti-biodiversity policy, and remains politically passive/
dumbfounded as well as forever stuck in faith-based denial to boot, we
may have few options but to consider abandoning ship, so to speak.
Having Selene as our extremely robust lifeboat may not be as far
fetched as one might care to think.
For the honest argument sake of showing how easily a slight/minor
shift in average density gives us that 1% hollow moon of 7.345e22 kg.
Paramagnetic basalt density via cobalt, iron, thorium, uranium, radium
and nickel can easily become worth <5g/cm3, as opposed to nearly pure
terrestrial basalt >2.7 g/cm3. Using an average density of 3.38 g/cm3
seems perfectly reasonable, as well as 3.71 g/cm3 isn’t entirely out
of line.
Radius
1738.0 km = 2.1991e19 m3
869.0 km = 2.7488e18 m3
434.5 km = 3.4360e17 m3
374.45 km = 2.1992e17 m3 (1% volume)
173.8 km = 2.1991e+16 m3 (.1% volume)
At zero hollow, the solid volume: 2.199e19 & 3.34e3 kg/m3 = 7.345e22
kg
At 1% hollow, the solid volume offers 2.177e19 m3 x 3.38e3 = 7.336e22
kg
10% hollow, the solid volume offers 1.9792e19 m3 x 3.71e3 = 7.343e22
kg
So, which is it? (or is it worth more than 10% hollow?)
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:47 am |
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If humanity stays on this auto-destruct, environmentally unfriendly
and anti-biodiversity policy, and remains politically passive/
dumbfounded as well as forever stuck in faith-based denial to boot, we
may have few options but to consider abandoning ship, so to speak.
Having Selene as our extremely robust lifeboat may not be as far
fetched as one might care to think.
For the honest argument sake of showing how easily a slight/minor
shift in average density gives us that 1% hollow moon of 7.345e22 kg.
Paramagnetic basalt density via cobalt, iron, thorium, uranium, radium
and nickel can easily become worth <5g/cm3, as opposed to nearly pure
terrestrial basalt >2.7 g/cm3. Using an average density of 3.38 g/cm3
seems perfectly reasonable, as well as 3.71 g/cm3 isn’t entirely out
of line.
Radius
1738.0 km = 2.1991e19 m3
869.0 km = 2.7488e18 m3
434.5 km = 3.4360e17 m3
374.45 km = 2.1992e17 m3 (1% volume)
173.8 km = 2.1991e+16 m3 (.1% volume)
At zero hollow, the solid volume: 2.199e19 & 3.34e3 kg/m3 = 7.345e22
kg
At 1% hollow, the solid volume offers 2.177e19 m3 x 3.38e3 = 7.336e22
kg
10% hollow, the solid volume offers 1.9792e19 m3 x 3.71e3 = 7.343e22
kg
So, which is it? (or is it worth more than 10% hollow?)
Having Selene as our extremely robust lifeboat may not be as far
fetched as one might care to think.
[quote:5235ee81d2]
You jest….. the moon our life boat? They haven’t landed on it in over
30+ years and now it’s a possible lifeboat. BG what gives? I’ll see
Saul become a democrat before that ever happens.
RT
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We've one-way hard landed on our Selene/moon, but that's about it
unless you've got objective proof otherwise.
btw; Zionist Nazis like rabbi Saul Levy can't ever become a democrat,
because they'd self-destruct, pretty much like any other black hole
running into another black hole.
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| Yousuf Khan... |
| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:24 pm |
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BradGuth wrote:
[quote:51fe5fc13e]On Jul 13, 1:55 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
So you're hoping the Moon is hollow, so you can live there?
Yousuf Khan
If humanity stays on this self-destruct policy, and remains
politically as well as in faith-based denial to boot, we may have few
options but to consider abandoning ship, so to speak.
[/quote:51fe5fc13e]
Human impact on the environment of this planet is far overrated. Without
even going into the fact that just within the human species' lifetime,
that it has survived far greater environmental changes than are
happening right now, you can compare human impact to the methanogenic
bacteria impact from 2.7 billion years ago, the Great Oxidation Event.
During the Great Oxidation Event, it is theorized that methanobacteria
used up the world's entire supply of free-floating nickel, thus ensuring
their own destruction, the ascendancy of oxygen-producing cyanobacteria
and subsequent oxygen-using organisms. On the environmental impact scale
from zero to environment-altering bacteria, humans are closer to zero.
News - Space: Experts unravel great mystery of Earth
"The first photosynthetic microbes, the "blue-green" algae or
cyanobacteria, are thought to have evolved about 300 million years
before the Great Oxidation Event 2.5 billion years ago. But the oxygen
they produced was quickly destroyed by methane gas produced by far more
numerous methanogenic bacteria, which could breathe without oxygen using
the less efficient method of anaerobic respiration."
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=118&art_id=vn20090412065355605C675092
[quote:51fe5fc13e]For the honest argument sake of showing how easily a slight shift in
average density gives us that 1% hollow moon.
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What honest argument? There's no proof that the Moon is hollow (even 1%
of it), it's just something you made up out of thin air.
Even if it were hollow, there's no reason to believe that the hollow
areas are concentrated in one section of the Moon.
Yousuf Khan |
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| Yousuf Khan... |
| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:15 pm |
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Pat Flannery wrote:
[quote:99b25d0a12]Yousuf Khan wrote:
So you're hoping the Moon is hollow, so you can live there?
Hell, I'm hoping Pluto is hollow, so he can live there instead. :-D
Pat
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I think the reason for the Moon is that he thinks the Moon was sent to
us from the Sirius star system. The Sirius system is another one of his
obsessions. Being inside the Moon will allow him to be near something
from the Sirius system, and maybe hopefully one day the Moon will be
recaptured by the Sirius system so he can ride it to there and live
there. :-)
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:25 am |
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On Jul 14, 10:15 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:36fefd75e8]Pat Flannery wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:
So you're hoping the Moon is hollow, so you can live there?
Hell, I'm hoping Pluto is hollow, so he can live there instead. :-D
Pat
I think the reason for the Moon is that he thinks the Moon was sent to
us from the Sirius star system. The Sirius system is another one of his
obsessions. Being inside the Moon will allow him to be near something
from the Sirius system, and maybe hopefully one day the Moon will be
recaptured by the Sirius system so he can ride it to there and live
there. :-)
Yousuf Khan
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So, how does a helium flashover of a once 8.5 solar mass star, that
became such a red supergiant of 5+ solar mass, manage hold onto its
planets and their moons after becoming worth a one solar mass white
dwarf?
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:36 am |
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On Jul 15, 4:12 am, Pat Flannery <flan... at (no spam) daktel.com> wrote:
[quote:f213722e56]Yousuf Khan wrote:
I think the reason for the Moon is that he thinks the Moon was sent to
us from the Sirius star system. The Sirius system is another one of
his obsessions. Being inside the Moon will allow him to be near
something from the Sirius system, and maybe hopefully one day the Moon
will be recaptured by the Sirius system so he can ride it to there and
live there. :-)
Let me guess... a giant bug on Sirius' Klendathu farted fire and blew
the Moon right into orbit around Earth after a journey of several days. :-D
Pat
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And your butt-cheeks are flapping because????????
All the sudden the Newtonian laws of gravity and that of Selene
lithobraking itself into orbiting us simply can't happen??????
Is this because of those faith-based "conditional laws of physics"
again?
Can you by any chance point out where the original molecular cloud of
<1.25e7 solar masses went?
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| Pat Flannery... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:12 am |
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
[quote:809dabcdfe]
I think the reason for the Moon is that he thinks the Moon was sent to
us from the Sirius star system. The Sirius system is another one of
his obsessions. Being inside the Moon will allow him to be near
something from the Sirius system, and maybe hopefully one day the Moon
will be recaptured by the Sirius system so he can ride it to there and
live there. 
[/quote:809dabcdfe]
Let me guess... a giant bug on Sirius' Klendathu farted fire and blew
the Moon right into orbit around Earth after a journey of several days. :-D
Pat |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:50 am |
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On Jul 15, 10:39 am, "hanson" <han... at (no spam) quick.net> wrote:
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hanson wrote:
So, why do you have that need?
PS:
Brad have you noticed that your idol, rabbi Saul Levy, is
intensively administering to you? Read his posts and do
heed his advice... He offers you a different perspective.
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If I wanted to become a devout Zionist Nazi (much like yourself), I
would.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:15 am |
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On Jul 15, 1:07 pm, "hanson" <han... at (no spam) quick.net> wrote:
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Brad your are emotionally weaseling on PS/side issues.
Forget that or take it up with Saul himself, directly....
Why do you have that emotional obsession to have
your opinion on top of the stack. What's in it for you?
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Why do you and other spooks/moles have to quote so much? (agency
policy?)
~ BG |
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