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Read Blumenthal's REAL Findings Here: A 3rdShmuk SPIN FREE Zone
Blumenthal's REAL findings show that the IDSA's Lyme Treatment
guidelines process was SEVERELY flawed and unprofessional.. In other
words, the boyz with bugz at IDSA were reprimanded publicly by the
State of Connecticut for shoddy work..... while ILADS was NOT
reprimanded..... Blumenthal's findings include the following, as
written on Blumenthal's website (my comments are followed by a ----):
1) The IDSA FAILED to conduct a CONFLICTS OF INTEREST review for any
of the panelists prior to their appointment to the 2006 Lyme disease
guideline panel; Subsequent disclosures demonstrate that several of
the 2006 Lyme disease panelists had CONFLICTS OF INTEREST;
--- er, um... CONFLICT OF INTEREST means that IDSA committee members
did not act in the interest of SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY (i.e. committee
members did not accept and review the many distinguished studies
which CONFIRM persistence of infection....) and they did not act in
the interest of PATIENTS... due to their commercial CONFLICTS OF
INTEREST in the INSURANCE, DRUG and BIOWAR industries.
2) The IDSA FAILED TO FOLLOW ITS OWN PROCEDURES for appointing the
2006 panel chairman and members, enabling the chairman, who held a
BIAS regarding the existence of chronic Lyme, to handpick a
LIKEMINDED panel without scrutiny by or formal approval of the IDSA's
oversight committee;
.----- that's both collusion, malfeasance and incompetence .. PLUS
utter disregard for patient welfare..worthy of lawsuits against the
misguided IDSA Epidemic Intelligence Officers who ignore persistent
infection for their own financial gain ---as well as to cover up
bioweapons "mistakes" they and their colleagues may have engaged in.
Sounds like "thank you for smoking" science to me... Long courses of
intravenous anitbiotics are EXPENSIVE... insurance does not want PAY
for LONG courses of treatment. .. OBVIOUS....despite 3rdshmuk and
Wormser's bizzare obsession to the contrary..... the panelists had
conflicts of interest, and the top legal authority in Connecticut
stated this VERY CLEARLY in his wonderful findings...
3) The IDSA's 2000 and 2006 Lyme disease panels refused to accept or
meaningfully consider information regarding the existence of chronic
Lyme disease, once removing a panelist from the 2000 panel who
dissented from the group's position on chronic Lyme disease to achieve
"consensus";
------YUP... no matter how much 3rdSHMUK may fantasize otherwise....
DOZENS of scientific articles ---and even many youtube videos have
demonstrated the existence of "persistence of infection" of the
spirochete and cysts... even WIKIPEDIA admits that there are numerous
"mechanisms of persistence" of the organism-- mechanisms that defy
standard short term treatment periods. A patient could sue IDSA on
the basis of the darkfield live blood VIDEOS ALONE showing living,
swiming spirochetes in patients' blood....so the JIG IS UP, 3rdshmuk.
4) The IDSA blocked appointment of scientists and physicians with
divergent views on chronic Lyme who sought to serve on the 2006
guidelines panel by informing them that the panel was fully staffed,
even though it was later expanded;
---yeeup... sounds like COLLUSION and MANIPULATION to me.... blocking
scientific evidence is FRAUD... by any definition of the word...
Blumenthal stated it... its now up to citizens to SUE and make sure
that these Epidemic Intelligence Officer IDSA FRAUDSTERS are held
accountable for their egregious scientific misconduct and disregard
for public health-- before more people are damaged by their
unprofessional, illegal conduct......Also, it is ILLEGAL for
intelligence agencies to operate domestically.. Ya know... You boys
are acting ILLEGALLY if you are covering up bioweapons mistakes....in
your positions as Epidemic Intelligence Officers....
5) The IDSA portrayed another medical association's Lyme disease
guidelines as corroborating its own when it knew that the two panels
shared several authors, including the chairmen of both groups, and
were working on guidelines at the same time. In allowing its panelists
to serve on both groups at the same time, IDSA violated its own
conflicts of interest policy.
.....YEEEEEUP!!!... UNPROFESSIONAL, LYING BEHAVIOR RESULTING IN DAMAGE
TO PATIENTS THROUGH THE WITHHOLDING OF BOTH SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE ON
PERSISTENCE OF INFECTION, AND TREATMENT PROTOCOLS BASED ON THE
IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE OF PERSISTENCE OF INFECTION...
Yup--- 3rd shmuk--- we ALL KNOW that this disease is a RELAPSING
FEVER. EXTENDED TREATMENT BUYS US TIME....but may not CURE US...
That's why we need the treatment research money from Congress.
3rdmoron--- You are unamerican, and you are not going to win at this
game... you are simply riling up very ill patients with your
ridiculous diatribes here .. causing them to act and post when maybe
they would not have otherwise done so...
.....3rdwanker--- your bosses will soon fire you, I predict... but
then, that's what always happens to pathetic and arrogant schmucks
like you. |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:18 pm |
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On May 16, 4:07 pm, ThoughtCriminal <PrinceBernha... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Read Blumenthal's REAL Findings Here: A 3rdShmuk SPIN FREE Zone
Blumenthal's REAL findings show that the IDSA's Lyme Treatment
guidelines process was SEVERELY flawed and unprofessional.. In other
words, the boyz with bugz at IDSA were reprimanded publicly by the
State of Connecticut for shoddy work..... while ILADS was NOT
reprimanded..... Blumenthal's findings include the following, as
written on Blumenthal's website (my comments are followed by a ----):
1) The IDSA FAILED to conduct a CONFLICTS OF INTEREST review for any
of the panelists prior to their appointment to the 2006 Lyme disease
guideline panel; Subsequent disclosures demonstrate that several of
the 2006 Lyme disease panelists had CONFLICTS OF INTEREST;
--- er, um... CONFLICT OF INTEREST means that IDSA committee members
did not act in the interest of SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY (i.e. committee
members did not accept and review the many distinguished studies
which CONFIRM persistence of infection....) and they did not act in
the interest of PATIENTS... due to their commercial CONFLICTS OF
INTEREST in the INSURANCE, DRUG and BIOWAR industries.
2) The IDSA FAILED TO FOLLOW ITS OWN PROCEDURES for appointing the
2006 panel chairman and members, enabling the chairman, who held a
BIAS regarding the existence of chronic Lyme, to handpick a
LIKEMINDED panel without scrutiny by or formal approval of the IDSA's
oversight committee;
.----- that's both collusion, malfeasance and incompetence .. PLUS
utter disregard for patient welfare..worthy of lawsuits against the
misguided IDSA Epidemic Intelligence Officers who ignore persistent
infection for their own financial gain ---as well as to cover up
bioweapons "mistakes" they and their colleagues may have engaged in.
Sounds like "thank you for smoking" science to me... Long courses of
intravenous anitbiotics are EXPENSIVE... insurance does not want PAY
for LONG courses of treatment. .. OBVIOUS....despite 3rdshmuk and
Wormser's bizzare obsession to the contrary..... the panelists had
conflicts of interest, and the top legal authority in Connecticut
stated this VERY CLEARLY in his wonderful findings...
3) The IDSA's 2000 and 2006 Lyme disease panels refused to accept or
meaningfully consider information regarding the existence of chronic
Lyme disease, once removing a panelist from the 2000 panel who
dissented from the group's position on chronic Lyme disease to achieve
"consensus";
------YUP... no matter how much 3rdSHMUK may fantasize otherwise....
DOZENS of scientific articles ---and even many youtube videos have
demonstrated the existence of "persistence of infection" of the
spirochete and cysts... even WIKIPEDIA admits that there are numerous
"mechanisms of persistence" of the organism-- mechanisms that defy
standard short term treatment periods. A patient could sue IDSA on
the basis of the darkfield live blood VIDEOS ALONE showing living,
swiming spirochetes in patients' blood....so the JIG IS UP, 3rdshmuk.
4) The IDSA blocked appointment of scientists and physicians with
divergent views on chronic Lyme who sought to serve on the 2006
guidelines panel by informing them that the panel was fully staffed,
even though it was later expanded;
---yeeup... sounds like COLLUSION and MANIPULATION to me.... blocking
scientific evidence is FRAUD... by any definition of the word...
Blumenthal stated it... its now up to citizens to SUE and make sure
that these Epidemic Intelligence Officer IDSA FRAUDSTERS are held
accountable for their egregious scientific misconduct and disregard
for public health-- before more people are damaged by their
unprofessional, illegal conduct......Also, it is ILLEGAL for
intelligence agencies to operate domestically.. Ya know... You boys
are acting ILLEGALLY if you are covering up bioweapons mistakes....in
your positions as Epidemic Intelligence Officers....
5) The IDSA portrayed another medical association's Lyme disease
guidelines as corroborating its own when it knew that the two panels
shared several authors, including the chairmen of both groups, and
were working on guidelines at the same time. In allowing its panelists
to serve on both groups at the same time, IDSA violated its own
conflicts of interest policy.
....YEEEEEUP!!!... UNPROFESSIONAL, LYING BEHAVIOR RESULTING IN DAMAGE
TO PATIENTS THROUGH THE WITHHOLDING OF BOTH SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE ON
PERSISTENCE OF INFECTION, AND TREATMENT PROTOCOLS BASED ON THE
IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE OF PERSISTENCE OF INFECTION...
Yup--- 3rd shmuk--- we ALL KNOW that this disease is a RELAPSING
FEVER. EXTENDED TREATMENT BUYS US TIME....but may not CURE US...
That's why we need the treatment research money from Congress.
3rdmoron--- You are unamerican, and you are not going to win at this
game... you are simply riling up very ill patients with your
ridiculous diatribes here .. causing them to act and post when maybe
they would not have otherwise done so...
....3rdwanker--- your bosses will soon fire you, I predict... but
then, that's what always happens to pathetic and arrogant schmucks
like you.
Ok, Kathleen you were right, well thankfully it was exposed and now we
all can live happily ever after. I feel real bad for those guys on the
IDSA, their lives have been ruined, I can imagine how grueling it must
be for them to revisit the guidelines. |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:58 pm |
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On May 16, 6:07 pm, ThoughtCriminal <PrinceBernha... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry.
I"m afraid not.
If you bother to read the terms of the settlement agreement (always
helpful) you will no doubt notice a section that says that the
agreement constitutes the entire understanding between the parties and
basically precludes any other actions between the parties.
You might also notice that the IDSA did NOT waive their rights to
contest the jusrisdiction of the Conn AG in the matter.
But, you see, the AG is simply an adversarial party that represnts the
State of Connecticut. And as such, the statements of the AG are not to
be taken as a "ruling", or "finding". They are merely assertions that
can be proven or disproven. In this case, neither, as they will never
be tried because of the settlement agreement between the parties.
Whatever Blumenthal's personal OPINIONS may be in regard to the
matter...they really are just that...and to be "rulings" or
"findings"...they must be presented to a COURT of competent
jurisdiction and be ruled upon BY A JUDGE.
NOT Blumenthal.
Understand?
The ONLY things that are legally enforceable are the written terms of
the agreement. Whatever Blumenthal says his office "found" is hearsay
and irrelevant. His statements are largely political...not legal. They
have NO legal meaning. They are simply contentions, assertions.
In addition, I would note that the IDSA is a PRIVATE organization and
that the legal ability of the AG's office to enforce or interpret the
internal rules of panel composition or ethical conduct has NOT been
established and would have to be demonstrated before a JUDGE in COURT.
Again, do you understand this? Blumenthal's office has to demonstrate
before a COURT that it has the legal ability to enforce and make
decisions on the internal affairs of what is a private, professional
organization. Don't really know, but I would be willing to bet that is
something the IDSA attorneys would not be too quick to concede.
In the beginning, this "investigation" was supposedly a matter of
purported civil antitrust.
According to Blumenthal, himself, his office had to show that there
was economic benefit being derived by the panel members'
recommendations and that this benefit was the reason WHY other
potential contrary voices were excluded from the panel.
This simply hasn't happened.
And I STILL want someone to explain HOW it ever could have been a
POSSIBILITY in the first place.
The essential question remains unanswered..."HOW COULD RECOMMENDING
GENERIC DRUGS OF SHORT TERM DURATION PROVIDE ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE
PANEL MEMBERS"? |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:01 pm |
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On May 16, 6:18 pm, chronichel... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:
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Ok, Kathleen you were right, well thankfully it was exposed and now we
all can live happily ever after. I feel real bad for those guys on the
IDSA, their lives have been ruined, I can imagine how grueling it must
be for them to revisit the guidelines.-
Not Kathleen.
There are more of them out there, I'm afraid.
This one's name is Carla.
(And...actually none of the previous members of the panel will be
involved in the review, according to the terms of the settlement
agreement). |
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| the 3rd Man... |
| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:16 pm |
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On May 16, 6:07 pm, ThoughtCriminal <PrinceBernha... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Read Blumenthal's REAL Findings Here: A 3rdShmuk SPIN FREE Zone
Blumenthal's REAL findings show that the IDSA's Lyme Treatment
guidelines process was SEVERELY flawed and unprofessional.. In other
words, the boyz with bugz at IDSA were reprimanded publicly by the
State of Connecticut for shoddy work..... while ILADS was NOT
reprimanded..... Blumenthal's findings include the following, as
written on Blumenthal's website (my comments are followed by a ----):
1) The IDSA FAILED to conduct a CONFLICTS OF INTEREST review for any
of the panelists prior to their appointment to the 2006 Lyme disease
guideline panel; Subsequent disclosures demonstrate that several of
the 2006 Lyme disease panelists had CONFLICTS OF INTEREST;
What is the source of the legal authority of the Connecticut AG to
review the internal precedures of a private professional society and
make such a decision, please?
Quote:
--- er, um... CONFLICT OF INTEREST means that IDSA committee members
did not act in the interest of SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY (i.e. committee
members did not accept and review the many distinguished studies
which CONFIRM persistence of infection....) and they did not act in
the interest of PATIENTS... due to their commercial CONFLICTS OF
INTEREST in the INSURANCE, DRUG and BIOWAR industries.
Does the Connecticut AG have the legal authority to decide what does
or does not, constitute "scientific integrity"?
Doesn't that insert an elected official as the arbiter of complex
scientific controversy?
Is that soemthing that we should want, as a democratic society?
Quote:
2) The IDSA FAILED TO FOLLOW ITS OWN PROCEDURES for appointing the
2006 panel chairman and members, enabling the chairman, who held a
BIAS regarding the existence of chronic Lyme, to handpick a
LIKEMINDED panel without scrutiny by or formal approval of the IDSA's
oversight committee;
What is the source of the legal authority of the Connecticut AG to
review the internal precedures of a private professional society and
make such a decision, please?
Quote:
.----- that's both collusion, malfeasance and incompetence
LOL. And are these some sort of actionable "things", in your opinion?
.. PLUS
Quote: utter disregard for patient welfare..worthy of lawsuits against the
misguided IDSA Epidemic Intelligence Officers who ignore persistent
infection for their own financial gain ---as well as to cover up
bioweapons "mistakes" they and their colleagues may have engaged in.
Sounds like "thank you for smoking" science to me... Long courses of
intravenous anitbiotics are EXPENSIVE... insurance does not want PAY
for LONG courses of treatment. .. OBVIOUS....despite 3rdshmuk and
Wormser's bizzare obsession to the contrary..... the panelists had
conflicts of interest, and the top legal authority in Connecticut
stated this VERY CLEARLY in his wonderful findings...
The Connecticut AG is the state's top legal enforcement official.
But his opinions have to be ajudicated in Court, before a judge.
Quote:
3) The IDSA's 2000 and 2006 Lyme disease panels refused to accept or
meaningfully consider information regarding the existence of chronic
Lyme disease, once removing a panelist from the 2000 panel who
dissented from the group's position on chronic Lyme disease to achieve
"consensus";
So?
It is a PRIVATE organization.
WHY do YOU think that they should be obligated to include people who
the majority does not agree with?
If I am a member of a scientific panel whose purpose is to propose
that the earth is round...you mean Blumenthal thinks he can force me
to include people who say it is flat?
From whence does the great Blumenthal presume to derive this awesome
power?
I have edited out all the rest of the personal attacks and other
nonsense.
You REALLY have NO business distributing legal advice, whatever. Your
comments reveal exactly how little you understand.
And you are NOT helping others understand with this kind of demented
diatribe. |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:53 pm |
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On May 16, 6:07 pm, ThoughtCriminal <PrinceBernha... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Read Blumenthal's REAL Findings Here: A 3rdShmuk SPIN FREE Zone
------YUP... no matter how much 3rdSHMUK may fantasize otherwise....
If, by any chance...this "shmuk" business is a reference to an
attorney from Philadelphia who used to post here...we have been over
and over this...and no, I am NOT that person.
As I have said many times, I live in Chicago ...and a simple IP
address check conforms that FACT.
You need to learn that you will never build yourself up by attempting
to tear others down. You wanna be a "player" in the whackjob games
these internet bag"ladies" pull? Is that it? You think they will
accept you if you routinely badmouthing and bashing McSweegan? Think
you can prove yourself like that? Well, what kind of an admission
ticket is that? What are you trying to gain entrance to, exactly? and
what kind of people would associate with that kind of behavior?
Well, try not to be so obvious about trying to elevate yourself by
attacking others and calling names.
To anyone with a half a brain, you're just shaming and discrediting
yourself. |
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| lipanz... |
| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:22 pm |
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On May 16, 8:53�pm, the 3rd Man <sir_de... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 16, 6:07�pm, ThoughtCriminal <PrinceBernha... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Read Blumenthal's REAL Findings Here: �A 3rdShmuk SPIN FREE Zone
�------YUP... no matter how much 3rdSHMUK may fantasize otherwise....
If, by any chance...this "shmuk" business is a reference to an
attorney from Philadelphia who used to post here...we have been over
and over this...and no, I am NOT that person.
As I have said many times, I live in Chicago ...and a simple IP
address check conforms that FACT.
Just for the record -off topic- In reference to the "shmuk" I accidentally found out that the real "schmukk" the attorney from Phil. is a very good friend of a crooked rattlesnake attorney who works for a prominent firm in Phil.
The only thing is he works completely alone-- the schmukk's friend -
has no para-legal - does all his own sleuth work. A very good lawyer
- knows all the ropes and has been around.
This lawyer is an unbelievable crooked rattlesnake and I am beginning
to wonder -birds of a feather flock together.......so be it.......... |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:36 pm |
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On May 16, 7:07�pm, ThoughtCriminal <PrinceBernha... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Read Blumenthal's REAL Findings Here: �A 3rdShmuk SPIN FREE Zone
4) The IDSA blocked appointment of scientists and physicians with
divergent views on chronic Lyme who sought to serve on the 2006
guidelines panel by informing them that the panel was fully staffed,
even though it was later expanded;
---yeeup... sounds like COLLUSION and MANIPULATION to me.... blocking
scientific evidence is FRAUD... by any definition of the word...
Blumenthal stated it... its now up to citizens to SUE and make sure
Yes the class action lawsuit in ref. to the lyme vaccine- what
happened they lost. And when Steere was asked would he take the
vaccine -he replied he doesn't live in an epidemic area -Mass. not
epidemic ho ho. Good answer...............
that these Epidemic Intelligence Officer IDSA FRAUDSTERS are held
accountable for their egregious scientific misconduct and disregard
for public health-- before more people are damaged by their
unprofessional, illegal conduct......Also, it is ILLEGAL for
intelligence agencies to operate domestically.. Ya know... You boys
are acting ILLEGALLY if you are covering up bioweapons
mistakes....in
your positions as Epidemic Intelligence Officers....
5) The IDSA portrayed another medical association's Lyme disease What
was it per change the AMERICAN LYME FDTN.
guidelines as corroborating its own when it knew that the two panels
shared several authors, including the chairmen of both groups, and
were working on guidelines at the same time. In allowing its
panelists
to serve on both groups at the same time, IDSA violated its own
conflicts of interest policy.
....YEEEEEUP!!!... UNPROFESSIONAL, LYING BEHAVIOR RESULTING IN
DAMAGE
TO PATIENTS THROUGH THE WITHHOLDING OF BOTH SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE ON
PERSISTENCE OF INFECTION, AND TREATMENT PROTOCOLS BASED ON THE
IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE OF PERSISTENCE OF INFECTION...
Thought criminal, I basically agee with you yes. But what I have seen
and experienced it comes to the answer that you can't fight city hall
and evil seems to 99% of the time wins out with it's deceit and double
talk in THIS WORLD. I don't know what happens to these deceitful
people in the next world - tho. |
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| Mort Zuckerman... |
| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:50 pm |
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On May 17, 12:36 am, lipanz <lipanzmari... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 16, 7:07�pm, ThoughtCriminal <PrinceBernha... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Read Blumenthal's REAL Findings Here: �A 3rdShmuk SPIN FREE Zone
4) The IDSA blocked appointment of scientists and physicians with
divergent views on chronic Lyme who sought to serve on the 2006
guidelines panel by informing them that the panel was fully staffed,
even though it was later expanded;
---yeeup... sounds like COLLUSION and MANIPULATION to me.... blocking
scientific evidence is FRAUD... by any definition of the word...
Blumenthal stated it... its now up to citizens to SUE and make sure
Yes the class action lawsuit in ref. to the lyme vaccine- what
happened they lost. And when Steere was asked would he take the
vaccine -he replied he doesn't live in an epidemic area -Mass. not
epidemic ho ho. Good answer...............
that these Epidemic Intelligence Officer IDSA FRAUDSTERS are held
accountable for their egregious scientific misconduct and disregard
for public health-- before more people are damaged by their
unprofessional, illegal conduct......Also, it is ILLEGAL for
intelligence agencies to operate domestically.. Ya know... You boys
are acting ILLEGALLY if you are covering up bioweapons
mistakes....in
your positions as Epidemic Intelligence Officers....
5) The IDSA portrayed another medical association's Lyme disease What
was it per change the AMERICAN LYME FDTN.
guidelines as corroborating its own when it knew that the two panels
shared several authors, including the chairmen of both groups, and
were working on guidelines at the same time. In allowing its
panelists
to serve on both groups at the same time, IDSA violated its own
conflicts of interest policy.
....YEEEEEUP!!!... UNPROFESSIONAL, LYING BEHAVIOR RESULTING IN
DAMAGE
TO PATIENTS THROUGH THE WITHHOLDING OF BOTH SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE ON
PERSISTENCE OF INFECTION, AND TREATMENT PROTOCOLS BASED ON THE
IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE OF PERSISTENCE OF INFECTION...
Thought criminal, I basically agee with you yes. But what I have seen
and experienced it comes to the answer that you can't fight city hall
and evil seems to 99% of the time wins out with it's deceit and double
talk in THIS WORLD.
These crooks are not going to win this.
Quote: I don't know what happens to these deceitful
people in the next world - tho.
Oh, I do.
It's quite specific.
http://www.actionlyme.org/IGNORANT_MASS.htm
http://www.actionlyme.org/EXORCISMS.htm
The malicious will certainly suffer, but they can't
unscramble their own confusion and *never* will.
You can see the elegance in God's plan.
They who lie and hate will in the end be doomed to
utter confusion about *why* they hate, and it will
always and forever be over petty imbecilic
nonsense- the kind we witness being posted by
this fake lawyer, Third Man.
Do you see how much effort he puts into nothing
productive?
That's the nature of the damned. |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:10 pm |
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On May 17, 12:50�am, Mort Zuckerman <morph... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 17, 12:36 am, lipanz <lipanzmari... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Oh, I do.
It's quite specific.http://www.actionlyme.org/IGNORANT_MASS.htmhttp://www.actionlyme.org/EXORCISMS.htm
The malicious will certainly suffer, but they can't
unscramble their own confusion and *never* will.
You can see the elegance in God's plan.
They who lie and hate will in the end be doomed to
utter confusion about *why* they hate, and it will
always and forever be over petty imbecilic
nonsense- the kind we witness being posted by
this fake lawyer, Third Man.
Do you see how much effort he puts into nothing
productive?
That's the nature of the damned.- Hide quoted text -
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Thank you for those 2 websites. Odd I am interested in that. Getting
late. But I will go more into them tomorrow. Exactly what I am
interested in due to certain circumstances. I wish I could e-mail you
personally. Thank you for those sites.... |
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| Mort Zuckerman... |
| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:48 pm |
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On May 17, 1:10 am, lipanz <lipanzmari... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 17, 12:50�am, Mort Zuckerman <morph... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 17, 12:36 am, lipanz <lipanzmari... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Oh, I do.
It's quite specific.http://www.actionlyme.org/IGNORANT_MASS.htmhttp://www.actionlyme.org/...
The malicious will certainly suffer, but they can't
unscramble their own confusion and *never* will.
You can see the elegance in God's plan.
They who lie and hate will in the end be doomed to
utter confusion about *why* they hate, and it will
always and forever be over petty imbecilic
nonsense- the kind we witness being posted by
this fake lawyer, Third Man.
Do you see how much effort he puts into nothing
productive?
That's the nature of the damned.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Thank you for those 2 websites. Odd I am interested in that. Getting
late. But I will go more into them tomorrow. Exactly what I am
interested in due to certain circumstances. I wish I could e-mail you
personally. Thank you for those sites....
Got more.
http://www.actionlyme.org/CONTACT_US.htm |
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On May 16, 11:36 pm, lipanz <lipanzmari... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
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Thought criminal, I basically agee with you yes. But what I have seen
and experienced it comes to the answer that you can't fight city hall
and evil seems to 99% of the time wins out with it's deceit and double
talk in THIS WORLD. I don't know what happens to these deceitful
people in the next world - tho.
"L":
It is NOT enough that there may have been "conflicts of interest",
perceived or actual.
In this instance, IF this had gone to Court...Blumenthal would have
had to have been able to convince a Judge that these conflicts
influenced the panel memebrs to make their recommendations.
Understand? They would still have to have acted upon this
conflict...tried to further their economic interests. It is NOT a
"crime" to have an undisclosed "conflict". It might be a simple
oversight.
This is why I keep repeating the question about how could recommending
short courses of generic drugs constitute a "conflict".
And...I STILL am not getting any answers... |
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| the 3rd Man... |
| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:21 am |
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On May 16, 11:50 pm, Mort Zuckerman <morph... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 16, 11:50 pm, Mort Zuckerman <morph... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
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Oh, I do.
It's quite specific.
That's good to hear.
What does it say about those who bear false witness against their
neighbors?
What does it say about "judge not...lest ye be judged"?
LOL.
I can't profess to be so divinely-connected as to predict fates in the
afterlife...but I do think that people who violate the terms of Google
Groups terms of service will probably get their e-mail acount banned
in the here and now.
This includes impersonating other people...like Mort Zuckerman. (for
God-only-knows what psychotic reason).
Abuse reports sent. |
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| Mort Zuckerman... |
| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:01 am |
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On May 17, 10:08 am, the 3rd Man <sir_de... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 16, 11:36 pm, lipanz <lipanzmari... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Thought criminal, I basically agee with you yes. But what I have seen
and experienced it comes to the answer that you can't fight city hall
and evil seems to 99% of the time wins out with it's deceit and double
talk in THIS WORLD. I don't know what happens to these deceitful
people in the next world - tho.
"L":
It is NOT enough that there may have been "conflicts of interest",
perceived or actual.
In this instance, IF this had gone to Court...Blumenthal would have
had to have been able to convince a Judge that these conflicts
influenced the panel memebrs to make their recommendations.
Understand? They would still have to have acted upon this
conflict...tried to further their economic interests. It is NOT a
"crime" to have an undisclosed "conflict". It might be a simple
oversight.
This is why I keep repeating the question about how could recommending
short courses of generic drugs constitute a "conflict".
And...I STILL am not getting any answers...
ROTFL |
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| the 3rd Man... |
| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:19 am |
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On May 17, 1:01 pm, Mort Zuckerman <morph... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 17, 10:08 am, the 3rd Man <sir_de... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 16, 11:36 pm, lipanz <lipanzmari... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Thought criminal, I basically agee with you yes. But what I have seen
and experienced it comes to the answer that you can't fight city hall
and evil seems to 99% of the time wins out with it's deceit and double
talk in THIS WORLD. I don't know what happens to these deceitful
people in the next world - tho.
"L":
It is NOT enough that there may have been "conflicts of interest",
perceived or actual.
In this instance, IF this had gone to Court...Blumenthal would have
had to have been able to convince a Judge that these conflicts
influenced the panel memebrs to make their recommendations.
Understand? They would still have to have acted upon this
conflict...tried to further their economic interests. It is NOT a
"crime" to have an undisclosed "conflict". It might be a simple
oversight.
This is why I keep repeating the question about how could recommending
short courses of generic drugs constitute a "conflict".
And...I STILL am not getting any answers...
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