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BoneLady

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:51 am

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Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
Strontium For Bones at http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
updated periodically.

Kevysmom

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:43 am

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Quote:

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it". -- George
Santayana

I hope not, I would hate another 4 more years of a republican
president.

On Apr 23, 5:24 pm, "The Werewolf's Lair" <werewolfk...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Quote:

--
"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it". -- George
Santayana<trigonometry1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:ee1bb584-3f71-4af9-85e1-99dcd0cb9df7@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 23, 8:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
Strontium For Bones athttp://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
updated periodically

The blog took too long download when I wanted to comment for impatient
me.

You must be real impatient, as even with dial-up, this blog only takes a
minute to download so please come back and check it out and make your
comments.

The blog mentions also taking 1200 mg of calcium, 500 mg of Magnesium,
and a 1000 IU of D.

I'll suggest you use some other form than magnesium oxide as it
has quite poor absorbed out of the gut. Citrate or even sulfate
forms are better absorbed. Split the dose 3 or 4 ways to avoid
loose bowels.

Don't assume a 1000 IU of D is enough.

Clinical trials have shown that 1000 IU is a safe and effective amount for
Vitamin D. Taking too much D, as it is stored in the body, could result in
not only toxicity but loss of calicium from bone and calcium deposits in
arteries and organs.

If you are made of money have your late winter serum value checked as the
is likely your yearly nadir value for 25 OH vitamin D.
Choose vitamin D3 especially if you are taking large
loading dose. The body doesn't hang on to the so-called
vitamin D2 (really analog to what is the real vitamin....Vitamin D3).
Consider taking a higher dose during the Fall and Winter months.
Also consider taking a large vitamin K2. And there are
various forms of K2 the two that are available here in the
States over the counter are vitamin K2 MK-4 and MK-7.
If you live in Canada, Health Canada wants you to hurry
up and break a bone and die as the forbid vitamin K supplements.
For no good reasons other than the exercise of power.
Vitamin K helps to prevent ectopic
calcifications. Which is a bugaboo of the anti-vitamin crowd
when it comes to vitamin D use. Interestingly
high PTH levels caused by low vitamin D levels are
a risk factor for ectopic calcium deposits in the soft tissues.
Think milligrams not micrograms on the topic of vitamin K
supplementation.

Ron Peterson

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:12 pm

Guest

On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
Strontium For Bones athttp://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
updated periodically.

I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
it difficult to recommend.

And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
BMD tests.

The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.

--
Ron

The Werewolf's Lair

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:24 pm

Guest

--
"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it". -- George
Santayana
<trigonometry1972@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ee1bb584-3f71-4af9-85e1-99dcd0cb9df7@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Quote:

On Apr 23, 8:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
Strontium For Bones athttp://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
updated periodically

The blog took too long download when I wanted to comment for impatient
me.

You must be real impatient, as even with dial-up, this blog only takes a
minute to download so please come back and check it out and make your
comments.

The blog mentions also taking 1200 mg of calcium, 500 mg of Magnesium,
and a 1000 IU of D.

I'll suggest you use some other form than magnesium oxide as it
has quite poor absorbed out of the gut. Citrate or even sulfate
forms are better absorbed. Split the dose 3 or 4 ways to avoid
loose bowels.

Don't assume a 1000 IU of D is enough.

Clinical trials have shown that 1000 IU is a safe and effective amount for
Vitamin D. Taking too much D, as it is stored in the body, could result in
not only toxicity but loss of calicium from bone and calcium deposits in
arteries and organs.

If you are made of money have your late winter serum value checked as the
is likely your yearly nadir value for 25 OH vitamin D.
Choose vitamin D3 especially if you are taking large
loading dose. The body doesn't hang on to the so-called
vitamin D2 (really analog to what is the real vitamin....Vitamin D3).
Consider taking a higher dose during the Fall and Winter months.
Also consider taking a large vitamin K2. And there are
various forms of K2 the two that are available here in the
States over the counter are vitamin K2 MK-4 and MK-7.
If you live in Canada, Health Canada wants you to hurry
up and break a bone and die as the forbid vitamin K supplements.
For no good reasons other than the exercise of power.
Vitamin K helps to prevent ectopic
calcifications. Which is a bugaboo of the anti-vitamin crowd
when it comes to vitamin D use. Interestingly
high PTH levels caused by low vitamin D levels are
a risk factor for ectopic calcium deposits in the soft tissues.
Think milligrams not micrograms on the topic of vitamin K
supplementation.

Turin

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:26 pm

Guest

On Apr 23, 11:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
Strontium For Bones athttp://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
updated periodically.

But, Does it build REALLY strong bones? A guy I know - Ken Pangborn -
needs SOMETHING ...fucking fast. At over 500 lbs., his skeleton is
warping like a room full of peeling wallpaper.

In fact, I'm not certain that a treatment based on Strontium would be
adequate for his particular need ...something more like adamantium
might be more in order, here.

We should, perhaps, not rule out any of the radioactive elements,
either. If Dude gets any fatter, then there's a danger that a black
hole is soon to form at the same coordinates where his french fry
filled stomach hangs over his belt. A lot of Floridians are scared of
either that happening, or their state falling flat into the ocean,
before California goes.

.....In which case, maybe we should let the bastard's bone break down.
It's a lose-lose if you ask most people...

- - -

The face of an angel.
The charm of the devil.

.....and, the power of a god:

Turin

I have such sites to show you...
------------------------

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http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First/ $B!i(B
http://turinturambar.fortunecity.com/blog/

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"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
burn in hell forever and ever...."

-----

Bruce in Bangkok

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:34 pm

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
<srsupporter@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.

Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.

Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
there is no requirement for additional supplements

Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
additional magnesium is required.

Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried
http://strontiumforbones.com/ which appears to be much the same
information for strontium except that it appears to be an
advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

Pramesh Rutaji

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:22 pm

Guest

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

Quote:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
srsupporter@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
Strontium For Bones at http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
updated periodically.

As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.

Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.

Most Americans get plenty of calcium. The USA consumption of calcium is
higher than most other places in the world and we have more osteoporosis
than most of the world. While calcium is very important, it is less
likely that one is deficient.

As to blood work, when I take a LOT of calcium citrate, my blood work
shows no change. Perhaps I'm excreeting it somehow the excess is being
placed in bone.

Quote:

Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
there is no requirement for additional supplements

If you lived in the tropics and didn't were hardly any cloths most of
the time, this would be true. In the USA, the majority of Americans are
vitamin D deficient, even people living in Miami with an outdoor
lifestyle. In the USA, cancer rates increase and one moves north. This
is true of cardiovascular disease and many others. Vitamin D
supplementation is almost necessary for everyone in the USA. The only
way to know your vitamin D status is to get some blood work done. I
take 7000 IU per day and my blood results are mid normal, 62 in a lab
reference range of 32-100.

Quote:

Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
additional magnesium is required.

The majority of Americans are magnesium deficient. Your mileage may
vary. Blood levels are not accurate for this - cellular levels are more
important.

Vitamin K I believe is critical in for good bone formation as well. If
you are low on K, calcium builds up in other parts of the body.

--

Pramesh Rutaji

p297tongue6221@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply

BoneLady

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:20 am

Guest

On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
osteoporosis? athttp://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/.
I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
it difficult to recommend.

And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
BMD tests.

The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.

--
Multiple clinical trials conducted since the 1950s using strontium gluconate,carbonate,lactate and chloride have attested to the efficacy of supplemental strontium in building strong bones. The ranelate studies are more recent. It is the elemental strontium itself that does the bone building. Strontium citrate has the advantage of better gastric tolerance.See my blog for links to some of the clinical studies. The person reading your dexa scan should make adjustments to the reading if you have been taking strontium. See http://www.osteopenia3.com/Strontium-dexa-scan.html.
BoneLady at http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/

BoneLady

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:33 am

Guest

On Apr 23, 9:34 pm, Bruce in Bangkok <b*paige*125@g*mail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady

srsuppor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
Strontium For Bones at > http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
updated periodically.

As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.

Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.

Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
there is no requirement for additional supplements

Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
additional magnesium is required.

Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I triedhttp://strontiumforbones..com/which appears to be much the same
information for strontium except that it appears to be an
advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"

Bruce-in-Bangkok
I have absolutely nothing to do with http://strontiumforbones.com/,nor

was I even aware of its existence. BoneLady at
http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/.

BoneLady

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:43 am

Guest

On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
Strontium For Bones athttp://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
updated periodically.

I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
it difficult to recommend.

And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
BMD tests.

The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.

--
Ron

Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
alone.

BoneLady

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:47 am

Guest

On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:

Quote:

The correction factor for strontium has been published and there is a
link for it on my blog at http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com in my
links section.

Quote:

The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.

Biochemically, since all forms of strontium must dissociate in the
stomach and then be protein-bound in the intestines, it doesn't matter
which form you take, although the citrate, like calcium citrate, is
very absorbable and has few side effects. The ranelate is a patented
form so that Servier could market their drug in Europe. There is no
real advantage to taking the ranelate form.

Quote:

--
Ron

BoneLady

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:48 am

Guest

On Apr 23, 9:34 pm, Bruce in Bangkok <b*paige*125@g*mail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady

srsuppor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
Strontium For Bones athttp://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
updated periodically.

As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.

Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.

Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
there is no requirement for additional supplements

Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
additional magnesium is required.

Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I triedhttp://strontiumforbones..com/which appears to be much the same
information for strontium except that it appears to be an
advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

My blog at http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com is non-commercial and
is NOT associated with the commercial site, www.strontiumforbones.com.
My blog carries no ads and is strictly for info and the promotion of
non-prescription strontium.

BoneLady

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:14 am

Guest

On Apr 23, 1:36 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Try being more patient. My blog has been tested on dial-up and only
takes less than a minute to load on 50Kps service.

Quote:

The blog mentions also taking 1200 mg of calcium, 500 mg of Magnesium,
and a 1000 IU of D.

I'll suggest you use some other form than magnesium oxide as it
has quite poor absorbed out of the gut. Citrate or even sulfate
forms are better absorbed. Split the dose 3 or 4 ways to avoid
loose bowels.

Don't assume a 1000 IU of D is enough. If you are made of
money have your late winter serum value checked as the
is likely your yearly nadir value for 25 OH vitamin D.
Choose vitamin D3 especially if you are taking large
loading dose. The body doesn't hang on to the so-called
vitamin D2 (really analog to what is the real vitamin....Vitamin D3).
Consider taking a higher dose during the Fall and Winter months.
Also consider taking a large vitamin K2. And there are
various forms of K2 the two that are available here in the
States over the counter are vitamin K2 MK-4 and MK-7.
If you live in Canada, Health Canada wants you to hurry
up and break a bone and die as the forbid vitamin K supplements.
For no good reasons other than the exercise of power.
Vitamin K helps to prevent ectopic
calcifications. Which is a bugaboo of the anti-vitamin crowd
when it comes to vitamin D use. Interestingly
high PTH levels caused by low vitamin D levels are
a risk factor for ectopic calcium deposits in the soft tissues.
Think milligrams not micrograms on the topic of vitamin K
supplementation.

Taka

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:16 pm

Guest

IMHO boron is better and safer than Strontium for bone and cartilage
health - do a search on it and see. Many parts of the World's soil
are depleted of boron. I haven't seen yet how it actually works on
molecular level but it looks like it has something to do with the
membranes and lipid metabolism.

Taka

Ron Peterson

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:44 am

Guest

On Apr 24, 2:43 pm, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:

I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
it difficult to recommend.

Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
alone.

Who considers strontium to be an essential nutrient?

Is there a study that indicates that strontium in the bone matrix is
the cause of higher bone strength?

--
Ron

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