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| Florian |
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Look at that:
<http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA06254.jpg>
See the faults? See the ice ridges?
Isn't it evident that this moon is growing?
It will not take much time before people quit denying auxotectonics.
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
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| don findlay |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:36 pm |
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Florian wrote:
Quote: Look at that:
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA06254.jpg
See the faults? See the ice ridges?
Isn't it evident that this moon is growing?
It will not take much time before people quit denying auxotectonics.
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Florian
"Toute v�rit� passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculis�e;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'�tre accept�e comme
une totale �vidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
How do you know it's not subducting round the back? It could be
argued (within Plate Tectonics) that it could be is proof that it
is. And anyway, every one of those creases you see could be
*evidence* that it's subducting round the front as well.
It won't be long till that's proof that it is too. Ask Stuart.
Pity you had to choose April the first for this one  No fools on
this newsgroup. You watch. |
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| don findlay |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:36 pm |
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| Look out everybody, ...Florian's stuck a trojan on this one. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:36 pm |
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On 1 avr, 00:24, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
Quote: Look out everybody, ...Florian's stuck a trojan on this one.
Well Don, Saturn is well beyond growing since it has lost its
lithosphere in outer space & has been submitted to intense alchemical
transformation to lighter elements .... Remember each planet beyond
ours are older in True Geology term, while the ones before our
position are younger ...
... and so has Enceladus !
Elementary Dr Watson
Do you want to take a trip to check that ???? Well, it won't be with
that Retards ' rocket type of "fossil" fuel technology of course,
neither will it be with anything they are tossing about in their
futurist outlook !
Too long would it take indeed...
jpturcaud |
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| The Man From Havana |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:36 pm |
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On Apr 1, 9:42 am, sir.jpturc...@neuf.fr wrote:
Quote: On 1 avr, 00:24, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
Look out everybody, ...Florian's stuck a trojan on this one.
Well Don, Saturn is well beyond growing since it has lost its
lithosphere in outer space & has been submitted to intense alchemical
transformation to lighter elements .... Remember each planet beyond
ours are older in True Geology term, while the ones before our
position are younger ...
... and so has Enceladus !
Elementary Dr Watson
Do you want to take a trip to check that ???? Well, it won't be with
that Retards ' rocket type of "fossil" fuel technology of course,
neither will it be with anything they are tossing about in their
futurist outlook !
Too long would it take indeed...
jpturcaud
More ramblings of an idiot. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:39 pm |
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On 1 avr, 04:08, The Man From Havana <johnvonl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Shalom Shabbat Rabbid dog, do you eat Kosher at long last ... gutless
Groenstein ? ... ashamed of your name or something ?
Further they have never nor would let you in in Havana ... Eduardo
liar !
... btw how are ya faring these days with that new aspect of the DDD
( Divine Drudging Drench ) ...the crocodiles are walking the streets
now ?
Goood !
Coming back to that PE ( Planetary Expansion) issue, the Mechanism of
such are unknown except of course in the True Geology approach !
The drama is that we have Savages rescuing a space ship in Papua - NG
and trying to find out how it works ... with Papous ' scientists
uttering their most balanced views on the subject to mesmerised
audience, completely flabbergasted by the insight of their
Scientists. Such analogy is excellent since it demonstrates the
impossibility of those clowns of the present Official Geology to come
to term with the reality ... Just beyond the scope of those Savages &
Universities mind programmed fools ...
... in another fields they are the same who beuuulieve that germs
cause dizeazezz & chemical fertiliserzz increase yields ... etc
Pathetic
Jean-Paul Turcaud
Discoverer of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre mines in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Bus ph + 33 6 50 17 14 64
Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One never Forgiven ~ |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:01 pm |
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On 1 avr, 06:58, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com>
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Like I said the other day: no schist.
And thus nominated.
Nominated ? Shist ?
What do you mean ?
Incidentally why don't you see cracks in the ice when the water is
freezing ???
... since indeed ice is expanding when it does freeze ...
Hence those cracks in your iced lake were due to thawing ...Elementary
Dr Watson !
...resolutely refuting your analogy.
jpturcaud
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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| George |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:50 pm |
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"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
news:1ieoxgn.t38ofl1snwngqN%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net...
Considering that it is venting prodigious amounts of matter (mostly in the
form of water ice), one could easily argue that rather than gaining mass, it
is losing it. The ice ridges are just pressure ridges, probably not unlike
what we see in our own Arctic region. If anything, it is convincing
evidence of a liquid subsurface.
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| Timberwoof |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:56 pm |
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In article
<1ieoxgn.t38ofl1snwngqN%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net>,
auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net (Florian) wrote:
Nope.
Quote: It will not take much time before people quit denying auxotectonics.
Ooh! What a cool word you've found!
About twenty years ago I lived in Denver. At the time, a friend of mine
was hot-air balloon pilot. I'd occasionally help her out in launching
and landing the balloon, and for my efforts I got some free rides. One
such ride was over frozen Chatfield Reservoir. The thing was cracking
and splitting,making some very cool space-war game sounds. I brought my
Balloon Camera with me--one I would not be terribly upset if something
bad were to happen to it--and took photos of the lake.
I was in a bit of a photography lull, so it was months before I got the
film developed and pictures printed. In the mean time, Voyager had
visited Jupiter and beamed back some astonishing photos.
Eventually I looked through the pictures I had taken. Ah, sunrise
illuminating the snowy Rocky Mountains. Ah, the Chatfeild Recreation
area balloon launch pad. Some balloons being launched. My friends. The
surface of Europa. More pictures of Europa. Some trees sticking out of
the ice. Wait a moment ... I don't recall having gone to Europa! Ah,
that was frozen Chatfield Reservoir, which looks just like the surface
of frozen Europa.
Enceladus looks like that, too, except it has more craters in some areas
and is all folded and heaved and cracked in others, somewhat like the
ice arena, where I play hockey, on a bad day.
No expansion is needed to explain this. That's just ice moving around
under thermal and tidal stress.
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
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| Timberwoof |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:58 pm |
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In article
<334b0241-7c16-4de1-ae06-0f8f4cf86d74@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
sir.jpturcaud@neuf.fr wrote:
Quote: On 1 avr, 00:24, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
Look out everybody, ...Florian's stuck a trojan on this one.
Well Don, Saturn is well beyond growing since it has lost its
lithosphere in outer space & has been submitted to intense alchemical
transformation to lighter elements
Like I said the other day: no schist.
And thus nominated.
Quote: .... Remember each planet beyond
ours are older in True Geology term, while the ones before our
position are younger ...
... and so has Enceladus !
Elementary Dr Watson
Do you want to take a trip to check that ???? Well, it won't be with
that Retards ' rocket type of "fossil" fuel technology of course,
neither will it be with anything they are tossing about in their
futurist outlook !
Too long would it take indeed...
jpturcaud
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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| Florian |
| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:19 am |
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Timberwoof <timberwoof.spam@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
Let's see, we have a surface with open faults and ridges extruding
ice... So where is the ice going?
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No expansion is needed to explain this. That's just ice moving around
under thermal and tidal stress.
Of course, if you dare to compare a pond to a moon...
--
Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| Florian |
| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:19 am |
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George <George@george.net> wrote:
Quote: Considering that it is venting prodigious amounts of matter (mostly in the
form of water ice), one could easily argue that rather than gaining mass, it
is losing it.
It is losing mass to ring E, but at the same time shows no sign of ice
collapse or the like. In contrary, we have ice ridges spreading new ice
and open cracks demonstrating tensional surface all over the moon...
That is a clinching case.
BTW Georgie, did the frequency of volcanic activity increased or
decreased on Mars?
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| Nicolas Krebs |
| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:36 pm |
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Florian écrivit dans l'article
news:1ieoxgn.t38ofl1snwngqN%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net
23 minutes avant le 2008-04-01
Quote: It will not take much time before people quit denying auxotectonics.
April fool? Oops sorry, i misread as "I will not take more time...".
P.S.: You still haven't answer to my
news:47518afc$0$29159$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net#line=7,11
question about the « overwhelming evidences supporting planetary growth »
claimed in news:1i8ew2e.hox0m41avpz2bN%first_name@last_name.net#line=70,71 .
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(...) conquis toute la géologie. Toute ? Non ! Car quelques irréductibles
partisans de Samuel Carey résistent encore et toujours (...) |
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| George |
| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:21 pm |
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"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Timberwoof <timberwoof.spam@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
In article
1ieoxgn.t38ofl1snwngqN%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net>,
auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net (Florian) wrote:
Look at that:
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA06254.jpg
See the faults? See the ice ridges?
Isn't it evident that this moon is growing?
Nope.
Let's see, we have a surface with open faults and ridges extruding
ice... So where is the ice going?
[...]
No expansion is needed to explain this. That's just ice moving around
under thermal and tidal stress.
Of course, if you dare to compare a pond to a moon...
Umm, ridges extruding ice? Take a look at this image and point out the
extruded ridges:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080331.html
Looks remarkably like this:
http://intravelmag.com/images/stories/mar07/p5210020.jpg
George |
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| Florian |
| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:57 pm |
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George <George@george.net> wrote:
Georgie, do you deny the existence of ridges on Enceladus?
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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