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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:44 pm |
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http://meandmybigideas.wordpress.com/2006/10/17/echobaycom-the-pez-candy-dispenser/
EchoBay.com & The Pez Candy Dispenser
October 17, 2006 -- lemaverick
Just like You Tube so another great internet success
story didn't start with a comprehensive business plan
or any clear direction in mind. Just an obsessive
founder with a 'tinkering' mentality and a fascination
for technology. In particular a new platform - the internet.
So Echobay.com, home of the most famous online
auction site on the planet? Well not quite.
When Pierre Omidyar wanted a name for his web
consulting and freelance technology business he
thought Echo Bay Technology Group 'sounded cool'.
Unfortunately a Canadian mining company already
owned the domain name and so was born.
Not the home of online auctions. Just the home
for yet another tech consulting firm.
Already a seasoned techie with experience across
a range of IT businesses Pierre became fascinated
by a developing technology and wondered whether
'the internet' would help level the playing field
between buyers and sellers, between insiders
and joe public.
Pierre had begun to wonder whether it was
possible to create a 'perfect marketplace' that
gave everyone access to the same information &
let buyers fight it out & produce a real market price
for the transaction.
Pierre knew nothing about auctions & auction theory.
Just frustration at seeing insiders make big gains on
stock deals before the small investor got a look,
made him wonder.
Urban myth has it that Pierre wrote the code that
would become Ebay to help his fiancee Pam
Wesley, who was having difficulty finding other
collectors of PEZ dispensers to trade with since
she & Pierre had moved from Boston to The Valley.
The truth is slightly different but still as quaint, just
maybe not quite so romantic.
With Pierre's interest in the internet and perfect
marketplaces growing, it was time to test the notion.
Adding a page to his ebay.com consultancy web
site the results would soon be in.
With its block text on a dull grey background this
was true pioneering internet - the listings reflected
the standard of the day, Usenet newsgroups (the
online home of techies in the mid 1990s).
Pierre had no idea what to sell or what people
would want to buy, but computers being his
obsession, the first items seemed obvious -
computer parts.
As for marketing. A few mentions on Usenet
groups was the limit producing a startling result -
a traffic free day. It was Labor week-end and the
moderator of the all important new site
newsgroup had taken time-off.
But soon the trickle started.
An early sale on eBay was Omidyar's broken
laser pointer for $13.83.
Why would anyone buy a 'broken' laser pointer?
Pierre contacted the buyer to confirm he knew
it was broken. The e-mail response was "I'm a
collector of broken laser pointers."
A collector's heaven had been born. And a new
form of trading, accessible by all.
The perfect marketplace.
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| John D Salt |
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:09 pm |
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"(David P.)" <imbibe@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:0c902128-7e90-45b1-b545-0c345e764596@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
Quote: http://meandmybigideas.wordpress.com/2006/10/17/echobaycom-the-pez-cand
y-dispenser/
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A collector's heaven had been born. And a new
form of trading, accessible by all.
The perfect marketplace.
Fukkin' A.
Now all we need is the rational consumer, and economics will start to work
just like it says it should in all the textbooks.
Yours in an exponentially-damped trend-line of increasing
heteroschedasticity,
Gokmop. |
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| Ozark |
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:51 pm |
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On Dec 9, 2:44 am, "(David P.)" <imb...@mindspring.com> wrote:
Quote: http://meandmybigideas.wordpress.com/2006/10/17/echobaycom-the-pez-ca...
EchoBay.com & The Pez Candy Dispenser
October 17, 2006 -- lemaverick
Just like You Tube so another great internet success
story didn't start with a comprehensive business plan
or any clear direction in mind. Just an obsessive
founder with a 'tinkering' mentality and a fascination
for technology. In particular a new platform - the internet.
So Echobay.com, home of the most famous online
auction site on the planet? Well not quite.
When Pierre Omidyar wanted a name for his web
consulting and freelance technology business he
thought Echo Bay Technology Group 'sounded cool'.
Unfortunately a Canadian mining company already
owned the domain name and so was born.
Not the home of online auctions. Just the home
for yet another tech consulting firm.
Already a seasoned techie with experience across
a range of IT businesses Pierre became fascinated
by a developing technology and wondered whether
'the internet' would help level the playing field
between buyers and sellers, between insiders
and joe public.
Pierre had begun to wonder whether it was
possible to create a 'perfect marketplace' that
gave everyone access to the same information &
let buyers fight it out & produce a real market price
for the transaction.
Pierre knew nothing about auctions & auction theory.
Just frustration at seeing insiders make big gains on
stock deals before the small investor got a look,
made him wonder.
Urban myth has it that Pierre wrote the code that
would become Ebay to help his fiancee Pam
Wesley, who was having difficulty finding other
collectors of PEZ dispensers to trade with since
she & Pierre had moved from Boston to The Valley.
The truth is slightly different but still as quaint, just
maybe not quite so romantic.
With Pierre's interest in the internet and perfect
marketplaces growing, it was time to test the notion.
Adding a page to his ebay.com consultancy web
site the results would soon be in.
With its block text on a dull grey background this
was true pioneering internet - the listings reflected
the standard of the day, Usenet newsgroups (the
online home of techies in the mid 1990s).
Pierre had no idea what to sell or what people
would want to buy, but computers being his
obsession, the first items seemed obvious -
computer parts.
As for marketing. A few mentions on Usenet
groups was the limit producing a startling result -
a traffic free day. It was Labor week-end and the
moderator of the all important new site
newsgroup had taken time-off.
But soon the trickle started.
An early sale on eBay was Omidyar's broken
laser pointer for $13.83.
Why would anyone buy a 'broken' laser pointer?
Pierre contacted the buyer to confirm he knew
it was broken. The e-mail response was "I'm a
collector of broken laser pointers."
A collector's heaven had been born. And a new
form of trading, accessible by all.
The perfect marketplace.
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Three days later he pissed off his first seller by suspending their
account and sending meaningless gibberish in reply to the sellers
questions. |
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| Adam Funk |
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:24 pm |
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On 2007-12-10, John D Salt wrote:
Quote: Now all we need is the rational consumer, and economics will start to work
just like it says it should in all the textbooks.
Seen on a t-shirt:
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Quote: Yours in an exponentially-damped trend-line of increasing
heteroschedasticity,
You wrote that in a geodesic dome.
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and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press
away from the Internet?' [Mike Godwin, EFF http://www.eff.org/ ] |
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| John D Salt |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:00 pm |
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Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote in
news:msvk55-gtt.ln1@news.ducksburg.com:
Quote: On 2007-12-10, John D Salt wrote:
[Snips]
Yours in an exponentially-damped trend-line of increasing
heteroschedasticity,
You wrote that in a geodesic dome.
I write everything in a geodesic dome. As does everyone else -- it's the
21st Century, after all, and architecture is like that now. Also, we have
personal VTOLs, electricity from clean fusion so cheap it's not worth
metering, permanent colonies on the Moon, Mars and the four most
fashionable Lagrangian points, and the Rainbow Unity Party has just been
re-elected to run the World Government for the fourth time running since it
did such a great job of stabilising the population, eliminating
international conflict, slashing infant mortality and sorting out that
greenhouse unpleasantness.
If things aren't as agreeable in your timeline, blame that bastard Everett.
All the best,
John. |
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| Adam Funk |
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:33 pm |
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On 2008-01-14, John D Salt wrote:
Quote: I write everything in a geodesic dome.
And we do our best reading on a Dymaxion toilet.
Quote: As does everyone else -- it's the
21st Century, after all, and architecture is like that now. Also, we have
personal VTOLs, electricity from clean fusion so cheap it's not worth
metering, permanent colonies on the Moon, Mars and the four most
fashionable Lagrangian points, and the Rainbow Unity Party has just been
re-elected to run the World Government for the fourth time running since it
did such a great job of stabilising the population, eliminating
international conflict, slashing infant mortality and sorting out that
greenhouse unpleasantness.
SBUSCIRBE!!1!
Quote: If things aren't as agreeable in your timeline, blame that bastard Everett.
He'd just blame Pete and Delmar.
--
"Dictionaries are like watches. The worst is better than none, and
the best cannot be expected to go quite true." --- Samuel Johnson
"A man with one watch knows what time it is. A man with two
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:01 pm |
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lack neither wealth nor
servants to help them on occasion, they do not fail to be wretched and
desolate, because no one prevents them from thinking of themselves.
140. How does it happen that this man, so distressed at the death of his
wife and his only son, or who has some great lawsuit which annoys him, is
not at this moment sad, and that he seems so free from all painful and
disquieting thoughts? We need not wonder; for a ball has been served him,
and he must return it to his companion. He is occupied in catching it in its
fall from the roof, to win a game. How can he think of his own affairs,
pray, when he has this other matter in hand? Here is a care worthy of
occupying this great soul and taking away from him every other thought of
the mind. This man, born to know the universe, to judge all causes, to
govern a whole state, is altogether occupied and taken up with the business
of catching a hare. And if he does not lower himself to this and wants
always to be on the strain, he will be more foolish still, because he would
raise himself above humanity; and after all, he is only a man, that is to
say capable of little and of much, of all and of nothing; he is neither
angel nor brute, but man.
141. Men spend their time in following a ball or a hare; it is the pleasure
even of kings.
142. Diversion--Is not the royal dignity sufficiently great in itself to
make its possessor happy by the mere contemplation of what he is? |
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| Adam Funk |
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:27 pm |
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618. This is positive fact. While all philosophers separate into different
sects, there is found in one corner of the world the most ancient people in
it, declaring that all the world is in error, that God has revealed to them
the truth, that they will always exist on the earth. In fact, all other seas
come to an end, this one still endures, and has done so for four thousand
years.
They declare that they hold from their ancestors that man has fallen from
communion with God, and is entirely estranged from God, but that He has
promised to redeem them; that this doctrine shall always exist on the earth;
that their law has a double signification; that during sixteen hundred years
they have had people, whom they believed prophets, foretelling both the time
and the manner; that four hundred years after they were scattered
everywhere, because Jesus Christ was to be everywhere announced; that Jesus
Christ came in the manner, and at the time foretold; that the Jews have
since been scattered abroad under a curse and, nevertheless, still exist.
619. I see the Christian religion founded upon a preceding religion, and
this is what I find as a fact.
I do not here speak of the miracles of Moses, of Jesus Christ, and of the
Apostles, because they do not at first seem convincing, and because I only
wish here to put in evidence all those foundations of the Christian religion
which are beyond doubt and which cannot be called in question by any person
whatsoever. It is certain that we see in many places of the world a peculiar
people, separated from all other peoples of the world and called the Jewish
people.
I see then a crowd of religions in many parts of the world and in all times;
but their morality cannot please me, nor can their proofs convince me. Thus
I should equally have rejected the religion of Mahomet and of China, of the
ancient Romans and of the Egyptians, for the sole reason that none having
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| Tzortzakakis Dimitrios |
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:10 am |
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? "Adam Funk" <a24061@ducksburg.com> ?????? ??? ??????
news:auhv55-t0l.ln1@news.ducksburg.com...
Quote: On 2008-01-14, John D Salt wrote:
I write everything in a geodesic dome.
And we do our best reading on a Dymaxion toilet.
As does everyone else -- it's the
21st Century, after all, and architecture is like that now. Also, we
have
personal VTOLs, electricity from clean fusion so cheap it's not worth
metering, permanent colonies on the Moon, Mars and the four most
fashionable Lagrangian points, and the Rainbow Unity Party has just been
re-elected to run the World Government for the fourth time running since
it
did such a great job of stabilising the population, eliminating
international conflict, slashing infant mortality and sorting out that
greenhouse unpleasantness.
SBUSCIRBE!!1!
If things aren't as agreeable in your timeline, blame that bastard
Everett.
He'd just blame Pete and Delmar.
--
"Dictionaries are like watches. The worst is better than none, and
the best cannot be expected to go quite true." --- Samuel Johnson
"A man with one watch knows what time it is. A man with two
watches is never sure." --- variously attributed
Listen to BoneyM's Wild planet (on the 10,000 lightyears record). You'll be
astonished at the utopia people in the 80s were expecting from the 21st
century....
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
hordad AT otenet DOT gr |
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| David DeLaney |
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:16 pm |
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:28:37 -0500, John D Salt <jdsalt_AT_gotadsl.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote in
On 2008-04-15, Tzortzakakis Dimitrios wrote:
Listen to BoneyM's Wild planet (on the 10,000 lightyears record).
You'll be astonished at the utopia people in the 80s were expecting
from the 21st century....
Happynet?
No thanks, I've just put one out.
I didn't know it was on fire?
Dave "in bed? the clown? plus postage?" DeLaney
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It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K. |
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| Adam Funk |
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:52 pm |
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On 2008-04-15, Tzortzakakis Dimitrios wrote:
Quote: Listen to BoneyM's Wild planet (on the 10,000 lightyears record). You'll be
astonished at the utopia people in the 80s were expecting from the 21st
century....
Happynet?
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| John D Salt |
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:28 pm |
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Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote in
news:1tpkd5-f75.ln1@news.ducksburg.com:
Quote: On 2008-04-15, Tzortzakakis Dimitrios wrote:
Listen to BoneyM's Wild planet (on the 10,000 lightyears record).
You'll be astonished at the utopia people in the 80s were expecting
from the 21st century....
Happynet?
No thanks, I've just put one out.
All the best,
John. |
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| Tzortzakakis Dimitrios |
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:53 am |
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? "Adam Funk" <a24061@ducksburg.com> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1tpkd5-f75.ln1@news.ducksburg.com...
Quote: On 2008-04-15, Tzortzakakis Dimitrios wrote:
Listen to BoneyM's Wild planet (on the 10,000 lightyears record). You'll
be
astonished at the utopia people in the 80s were expecting from the 21st
century....
Happynet?
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No, wild planet.(We guarantee peace, health and freedom for all eternity or
whatever it was).Also, Noah's ark (Exodus 2001). You can search for the
lyrics by giving eg wild planet+boney m+lyrics.
http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/b/boneym614/wildplanet28649.html
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
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| Keith F. Lynch |
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:12 pm |
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Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote:
Quote: Tzortzakakis Dimitrios wrote:
Listen to BoneyM's Wild planet (on the 10,000 lightyears record).
I remembered that records were larger than CDs, but I somehow don't
recall them being quite that large. I wonder what would happen if
you tried to rotate a record that size at 33 RPM.
Quote: You'll be astonished at the utopia people in the 80s were expecting
from the 21st century....
Happynet?
Flying cars, which would navigate using slide rules. Unfortunately,
there was no place to drive them except ruins from the nuclear wars.
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| Tzortzakakis Dimitrios |
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:51 am |
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Ο "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
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Quote: Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote:
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios wrote:
Listen to BoneyM's Wild planet (on the 10,000 lightyears record).
I remembered that records were larger than CDs, but I somehow don't
recall them being quite that large. I wonder what would happen if
you tried to rotate a record that size at 33 RPM.
Lol! And what stylus? An ortofon? www.ortofon.com probably the last
manufacturer of cartridges left... And what turntable? Maybe God has some
Dual left? And if He wanted to scratch? A turntable the dimensions of the
Milky Way...
Quote: You'll be astonished at the utopia people in the 80s were expecting
from the 21st century....
Happynet?
Flying cars, which would navigate using slide rules. Unfortunately,
there was no place to drive them except ruins from the nuclear wars.
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In fact, I've never seen a slide rule. ( I am just 35). When I passed in
college, my godfather gave me a solar powered scientific calculator, which
said for him it was useless. Now I have a philips one, 10 euros complete
with ruler eraser and a couple of pencils.
Maybe that there *wasn't* a nuclear war is the final proof of the existence
of God, not letting His best creation, Man, perish. Flying cars-how about a
private airplane? Not everybody can afford that.
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
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