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0NBZ0
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:14 pm
Guest
So much for mythical global warming!!!



Hanneke Brooymans, Gordon Kent and Chris Zdeb, Canwest News Service

April 21, 2008



http://www.nationalpost.com:80/news/story.html?id=461865



Spring has turned into a cruel joke in Western Canada, where a
late-season blizzard dumped heavy snow on much of Alberta Sunday and a
cold snap may have devastated fruit crops across the border in B.C.



As much as 60% of the apricot crop and 50% of the sweet cherries and
peaches could be lost to the freezing temperatures of the last few days
in B.C.'s Okanagan Valley.



"It is very, very serious for us right now," said Hank Markgraf,
horticultural manager for the Okanagan Tree Fruit Company.



"I'm born and raised in the industry and I can remember the last 20 to
25 year pretty well and I've never seen it like this. This is pretty
bad."



Over the weekend some of the interior saw snowfall. But it was really
Monday night's drastic dip to -11C in some places that was the death
knell for soft fruit.



According to Environment Canada there is little relief for the next few
days as nighttime temperatures continue to dip to as low as -3C in some
areas.



Christine Dendy, owner of a cherry orchard in Kelowna, is looking at
losing up to 50% of her crop and she says less fruit going to market
will also likely mean higher prices at the grocery stores.



"I would think it would be a premium this year, for sure," said Dendy.



Back in Alberta, the RCMP closed a portion of the southbound lane of
Highway 2 Monday to investigate a fatal collision. A tractor-trailer
crashed near the off-ramp for Didsbury, about 233 kilometres south of
Edmonton. Road conditions may have been a factor in the crash.



Further north on the same highway, a Greyhound bus slid into a pickup
Sunday night about 40 kilometres south of Edmonton.



The pickup came to rest in one ditch, the bus in the other. There were
16 passengers on board the bus at the time. There were no reported
injuries. Road conditions were considered a factor in the crash.



The Edmonton region has been struck with its worst April snowstorm in
almost 20 years.



One of the hardest-hit areas in Alberta was near Wainwright, about 200
kilometres east of Edmonton, which has received about 36 centimetres of
snow, Environment Canada said Monday.



Lloydminster, which is about 250 kilometres east of Edmonton, received
30 centimetres.



Pam Larocque of the Husky Lloydminster Travel Centre said travellers
were stunned by the ferocity of the storm, with drifts building along
roads and wind gusting to 60 km/h.



"It's worse if you're driving in from the east," she said. "We've had a
lot of people decide to stay the night in [Lloydminster]."



Roads south of Edmonton were also in poor condition, while busy Highway
63 to Fort McMurray suffered partial whiteouts, ice and blowing snow.



In Edmonton, the city had about 60 vehicles plowing and sanding main
roads during the weekend, said city transportation spokesman Randy
Kilburn.



"It's a total aberration," he said. "I have basically lived here my
whole life and I can't remember it being this heavy this late."



The road clearing is costing the city about $100,000 a day, he said.



Environment Canada meteorologist David Wray said another 10 to 15
centimetres could fall on Edmonton before snow tapers off Tuesday
morning.



Add in the 10 centimetres that came down on the weekend and you're
looking at the city's biggest April snowfall since the one-day record
43.4 centimetres on April 23, 1990, he said.



The current weather in the Edmonton region is unusually cold, with an
Arctic ridge pushing temperatures down 15 to 20 degrees below normal,
Wray said. The temperature in Edmonton Monday afternoon was -10C, with a
wind chill of -20C.



People who didn't have to travel were taking winter's return in stride
Sunday, hauling out inner tubes and toboggans for possibly the season's
last slide.



Donald Gross, with Jude, 5, and George, 3, said he felt "pretty
demoralized" when he looked out the window in the morning.



"Honestly, I had to make a pretty big effort to drag myself out the
door. But the kids are having fun."



The Calgary region coped with 20 centimetres of snow and a wind chill
hovering around -18C over the weekend. City crews worked feverishly
through Saturday and Sunday to get roads cleared for Monday's commute.



Calgary was expected to see light snow Monday, tapering off by Tuesday
morning. Some parts of northwestern Saskatchewan were hard hit, with
snowfalls in the 15- to 25-centimetre range.
--



Warmest Regards

Bonzo

"Attributing global climate change to human CO2 production is akin to
trying to diagnose an automotive problem by ignoring the engine
(analogous to the Sun in the climate system) and the transmission (water
vapour) and instead focusing entirely, not on one nut on a rear wheel,
which would be analogous to total CO2, but on one thread on that nut,
which represents the human contribution." Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of
the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP.com), Former Professor
Of Climatology, University of Winnipeg
z
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:49 am
Guest
On Apr 22, 11:14 pm, "0NBZ0" <0N...@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com>
wrote:
Quote:
So much for mythical global warming!!!

Hanneke Brooymans, Gordon Kent and Chris Zdeb, Canwest News Service

April 21, 2008

http://www.nationalpost.com:80/news/story.html?id=461865

Spring has turned into a cruel joke in Western Canada, where a
late-season blizzard dumped heavy snow on much of Alberta Sunday and a
cold snap may have devastated fruit crops across the border in B.C.

As much as 60% of the apricot crop and 50% of the sweet cherries and
peaches could be lost to the freezing temperatures of the last few days
in B.C.'s Okanagan Valley.

"It is very, very serious for us right now," said Hank Markgraf,
horticultural manager for the Okanagan Tree Fruit Company.

"I'm born and raised in the industry and I can remember the last 20 to
25 year pretty well and I've never seen it like this. This is pretty
bad."

Over the weekend some of the interior saw snowfall. But it was really
Monday night's drastic dip to -11C in some places that was the death
knell for soft fruit.

According to Environment Canada there is little relief for the next few
days as nighttime temperatures continue to dip to as low as -3C in some
areas.

Christine Dendy, owner of a cherry orchard in Kelowna, is looking at
losing up to 50% of her crop and she says less fruit going to market
will also likely mean higher prices at the grocery stores.

"I would think it would be a premium this year, for sure," said Dendy.

Back in Alberta, the RCMP closed a portion of the southbound lane of
Highway 2 Monday to investigate a fatal collision. A tractor-trailer
crashed near the off-ramp for Didsbury, about 233 kilometres south of
Edmonton. Road conditions may have been a factor in the crash.

Further north on the same highway, a Greyhound bus slid into a pickup
Sunday night about 40 kilometres south of Edmonton.

The pickup came to rest in one ditch, the bus in the other. There were
16 passengers on board the bus at the time. There were no reported
injuries. Road conditions were considered a factor in the crash.

The Edmonton region has been struck with its worst April snowstorm in
almost 20 years.

One of the hardest-hit areas in Alberta was near Wainwright, about 200
kilometres east of Edmonton, which has received about 36 centimetres of
snow, Environment Canada said Monday.

Lloydminster, which is about 250 kilometres east of Edmonton, received
30 centimetres.

Pam Larocque of the Husky Lloydminster Travel Centre said travellers
were stunned by the ferocity of the storm, with drifts building along
roads and wind gusting to 60 km/h.

"It's worse if you're driving in from the east," she said. "We've had a
lot of people decide to stay the night in [Lloydminster]."

Roads south of Edmonton were also in poor condition, while busy Highway
63 to Fort McMurray suffered partial whiteouts, ice and blowing snow.

In Edmonton, the city had about 60 vehicles plowing and sanding main
roads during the weekend, said city transportation spokesman Randy
Kilburn.

"It's a total aberration," he said. "I have basically lived here my
whole life and I can't remember it being this heavy this late."

The road clearing is costing the city about $100,000 a day, he said.

Environment Canada meteorologist David Wray said another 10 to 15
centimetres could fall on Edmonton before snow tapers off Tuesday
morning.

Add in the 10 centimetres that came down on the weekend and you're
looking at the city's biggest April snowfall since the one-day record
43.4 centimetres on April 23, 1990, he said.

The current weather in the Edmonton region is unusually cold, with an
Arctic ridge pushing temperatures down 15 to 20 degrees below normal,
Wray said. The temperature in Edmonton Monday afternoon was -10C, with a
wind chill of -20C.

People who didn't have to travel were taking winter's return in stride
Sunday, hauling out inner tubes and toboggans for possibly the season's
last slide.

Donald Gross, with Jude, 5, and George, 3, said he felt "pretty
demoralized" when he looked out the window in the morning.

"Honestly, I had to make a pretty big effort to drag myself out the
door. But the kids are having fun."

The Calgary region coped with 20 centimetres of snow and a wind chill
hovering around -18C over the weekend. City crews worked feverishly
through Saturday and Sunday to get roads cleared for Monday's commute.

Calgary was expected to see light snow Monday, tapering off by Tuesday
morning. Some parts of northwestern Saskatchewan were hard hit, with
snowfalls in the 15- to 25-centimetre range.
--

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

"Attributing global climate change to human CO2 production is akin to
trying to diagnose an automotive problem by ignoring the engine
(analogous to the Sun in the climate system) and the transmission (water
vapour) and instead focusing entirely, not on one nut on a rear wheel,
which would be analogous to total CO2, but on one thread on that nut,
which represents the human contribution." Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of
the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP.com), Former Professor
Of Climatology, University of Winnipeg

That's odd, i was just in montreal and it's like 80 degrees there.
must be a plot by al gore.
z
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:50 am
Guest
On Apr 23, 10:52 am, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:

Quote:
Someone should tell Gore his 15 minutes are up.

the probability of somebody attempting to "debunk global warming" by
insulting al gore rapidly reaches one in any discussion.
Badabeck
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:55 am
Guest
On Apr 23, 10:52 am, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
Quote:
In article <480ea98...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, 0NBZ0
@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com says...





So much for mythical global warming!!!

"I'm born and raised in the industry and I can remember the last 20 to
25 year pretty well and I've never seen it like this. This is pretty
bad."

Someone should tell Gore his 15 minutes are up.

What does Al Gore have to do with the overwhelming scientific evidence
of global warming? Except in the clouded and confused minds of
senile, partisan rightwing imbeciles.
Suddenly snow in Canada is not only unusual, it also represents a
"deep freeze" too. Meanwhile Toronto and most of the east are in
record temperature highs.

Only a scientifically illiterate fool would believe that a freak snow
storm in a tiny sliver of the planet refutes the evidence of global
warming.

You rightists are very gullible. No wonder why you appear to be so
easily fooled.

Why do you love pollution and hate the environment?
John Black
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:52 am
Guest
In article <480ea981$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, 0NBZ0
@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com says...
Quote:
So much for mythical global warming!!!



Hanneke Brooymans, Gordon Kent and Chris Zdeb, Canwest News Service

April 21, 2008



http://www.nationalpost.com:80/news/story.html?id=461865



Spring has turned into a cruel joke in Western Canada, where a
late-season blizzard dumped heavy snow on much of Alberta Sunday and a
cold snap may have devastated fruit crops across the border in B.C.



As much as 60% of the apricot crop and 50% of the sweet cherries and
peaches could be lost to the freezing temperatures of the last few days
in B.C.'s Okanagan Valley.



"It is very, very serious for us right now," said Hank Markgraf,
horticultural manager for the Okanagan Tree Fruit Company.



"I'm born and raised in the industry and I can remember the last 20 to
25 year pretty well and I've never seen it like this. This is pretty
bad."

Someone should tell Gore his 15 minutes are up.

John Black
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Poetic Justice
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:20 am
Guest
z wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 23, 10:52 am, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:

Someone should tell Gore his 15 minutes are up.

the probability of somebody attempting to "debunk global warming" by
insulting al gore rapidly reaches one in any discussion.

How can we ignore the Nobel winner and movie genius of Al Gore the
scientific wonder of the century.


He deserves his attention, as he has put himself in front on the issue,
Al Gore is a key personality that is credentialed and so many pay homage
to Gore's genius. We need to understand his genius, if we can't
understand him then his genius will be wasted.
Ouroboros_Rex
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:58 pm
Guest
John Black wrote:
Quote:
In article <480ea981$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, 0NBZ0
@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com says...
So much for mythical global warming!!!



Hanneke Brooymans, Gordon Kent and Chris Zdeb, Canwest News Service

April 21, 2008



http://www.nationalpost.com:80/news/story.html?id=461865



Spring has turned into a cruel joke in Western Canada, where a
late-season blizzard dumped heavy snow on much of Alberta Sunday and
a cold snap may have devastated fruit crops across the border in B.C.



As much as 60% of the apricot crop and 50% of the sweet cherries and
peaches could be lost to the freezing temperatures of the last few
days in B.C.'s Okanagan Valley.



"It is very, very serious for us right now," said Hank Markgraf,
horticultural manager for the Okanagan Tree Fruit Company.



"I'm born and raised in the industry and I can remember the last 20
to 25 year pretty well and I've never seen it like this. This is
pretty bad."

Someone should tell Gore his 15 minutes are up.

Can't, the lying denialists have to have something to talk about besides
the actual subject. =)
0NBZ0
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:51 pm
Guest
"Badabeck" <andrewranger01@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3bd02e04-02d9-40f8-81e9-875a28a8b131@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 23, 10:52 am, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
Quote:
In article <480ea98...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, 0NBZ0
@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com says...
So much for mythical global warming!!!

"I'm born and raised in the industry and I can remember the last 20
to
25 year pretty well and I've never seen it like this. This is pretty
bad."

Someone should tell Gore his 15 minutes are up.

What does Al Gore have to do with the overwhelming scientific evidence
of global warming? Except in the clouded and confused minds of
senile, partisan rightwing imbeciles.
Suddenly snow in Canada is not only unusual, it also represents a
"deep freeze" too. Meanwhile Toronto and most of the east are in
record temperature highs.
******************************

Huh?????
Where did you get this false info???
Highest temperature in the five day forecast for Toronto is 21 Degrees!

Thursday

Sunrise 06:23 (EDT)
Sunset 20:10 (EDT) 17°C 5°C 4 good 1027 51

Friday

Sunrise 06:21 (EDT)
Sunset 20:11 (EDT) 13°C 8°C 9 moderate 1020 78

Saturday

Sunrise 06:19 (EDT)
Sunset 20:12 (EDT) 21°C 6°C 9 good 1010 78

Sunday

Sunrise 06:18 (EDT)
Sunset 20:14 (EDT) 13°C 3°C 2 good 1017 66

Monday

Sunrise 06:16 (EDT)
Sunset 20:15 (EDT) 9°C 7°C 12 good 1004 97



--



Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"The notion of a static, unchanging climate is foreign to the history of
the earth or any other planet with a fluid envelope. The fact that the
developed world went into hysterics over changes in global mean
temperature of a few tenths of a degree will astound future
generations." Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member
of the National Academy of Sciences
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:56 pm
Guest
Bonzo "global temperature has risen only marginally over the last 150 years"

Ahahahahahahahaha

MMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOONNNNN
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:57 pm
Guest
"John Black" <jblack@texas.net> wrote
Quote:
Someone should tell Gore his 15 minutes are up.

Oh, you are going to be hearing from Gore for the rest of you short life.
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:58 pm
Guest
Bonzo "global temperature has risen only marginally over the last 150 years"

Ahahahahahahahaha

MMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOONNNNN
 
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