Good, sounds like H2O SCAM deal.  Now back to Gasoline, I already found a
way to cut the fuel cost in half using your current combustion system, I
don't want to file for a patent, it's too costly and time consuming. if BUSH
pays me, then your problem is solved.  He spent $9b/day in IRAQ, if he pays
me only $2B, then US problem is solved.

calderh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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I use to have some hope that biodiesel from algae might be a serious
fuel source some day, but after much exploration and doing the math,
it seems to me to be hardly worth the effort.  The following is the
new update to my webpage on the biofuel hoax at:

http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

"The prospect of growing algae to make biodiesel has more positive
potential than making ethanol from switchgrass, but you are still
stuck with the fact that algae need solar energy to turn carbon
dioxide into fuel.  To make biodiesel, algae are used as organic solar
panels which output oil instead of electricity.  Research reports brag
that algae can produces 15 times more fuel per acre of land than
growing corn for ethanol, but that still means we would need
approximately 30 million acres of algae ponds in the USA to meet 100%
of our projected automotive fuel usage by the year 2022.  That figure
does not include fuel for aircraft and ships.  Those algae schemes
that use less land invariably call for feeding algae sugar.  The sugar
must be made from corn or other crop, so you are simply trading
ethanol potential to make oil instead of vodka.  If you grow
genetically engineered super-algae in open-air ponds, the genetically
modified algae will immediately be carried to ponds, lakes,
reservoirs, and oceans all over the world in the feathers of migrating
birds, with unknown and possibly catastrophic consequences. Using
agricultural waste water is a good idea for producing algae, and algae
may be of use to our society for making small amounts of fuel,
fertilizer, chicken feed, and lubricants.  The acreage required to
replace all human oil consumption would obviously be impossible.  "

Agricultural "waste" is not really an answer either.

"Using agricultural "waste" to make biofuels has its own problems.
Removing unused portions of plants that are normally plowed under
increases the need for nitrogen fertilizers, which release the most
potent greenhouse gas of all; nitrous oxide.  Much of the residual
crop biomass must be returned to the soil to maintain topsoil
integrity, otherwise the rate of topsoil erosion will increase
dramatically.  If we mine our topsoil for energy, we may end up
committing slow agricultural suicide like the Mayan Empire.  Without
topsoil, the world starves!"

SEE "The biofuel hoax is causing a world food crisis!" at:
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

Christopher Calder

Good, sounds like H2O SCAM deal.

way to cut the fuel cost in half using your current combustion system, I
don't want to file for a patent, it's too costly and time consuming. if BUSH
pays me, then your problem is solved.  He spent $9b/day in IRAQ, if he pays
me only $2B, then US problem is solved.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

30 million acres is not a big area relative to the size
of even one US state - Texas.

It's about 50,000 square miles, or a "field" of 200 miles by 250

Besides, by year 2012, there will be more fuel efficient hybrid
cars on the road consuming less fuel..hopefully.

calderh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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I use to have some hope that biodiesel from algae might be a serious
fuel source some day, but after much exploration and doing the math,
it seems to me to be hardly worth the effort. The following is the
new update to my webpage on the biofuel hoax at:

http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

" To make biodiesel, algae are used as organic solar
panels which output oil instead of electricity. Research reports brag
that algae can produces 15 times more fuel per acre of land than
growing corn for ethanol, but that still means we would need
approximately 30 million acres of algae ponds in the USA to meet 100%
of our projected automotive fuel usage by the year 2022. That figure
does not include fuel for aircraft and ships. Those algae schemes
that use less land invariably call for feeding algae sugar.

I use to have some hope that biodiesel from algae might be a serious
fuel source some day, but after much exploration and doing the math,
it seems to me to be hardly worth the effort. The following is the
new update to my webpage on the biofuel hoax at:

http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

" To make biodiesel, algae are used as organic solar
panels which output oil instead of electricity. Research reports brag
that algae can produces 15 times more fuel per acre of land than
growing corn for ethanol, but that still means we would need
approximately 30 million acres of algae ponds in the USA to meet 100%
of our projected automotive fuel usage by the year 2022. That figure
does not include fuel for aircraft and ships. Those algae schemes
that use less land invariably call for feeding algae sugar.

I use to have some hope that biodiesel from algae might be a serious
fuel source some day, but after much exploration and doing the math,
it seems to me to be hardly worth the effort. The following is the
new update to my webpage on the biofuel hoax at:

http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

"The prospect of growing algae to make biodiesel has more positive
potential than making ethanol from switchgrass, but you are still
stuck with the fact that algae need solar energy to turn carbon
dioxide into fuel. To make biodiesel, algae are used as organic solar
panels which output oil instead of electricity. Research reports brag
that algae can produces 15 times more fuel per acre of land than
growing corn for ethanol, but that still means we would need
approximately 30 million acres of algae ponds in the USA to meet 100%
of our projected automotive fuel usage by the year 2022. That figure
does not include fuel for aircraft and ships. Those algae schemes
that use less land invariably call for feeding algae sugar. The sugar
must be made from corn or other crop, so you are simply trading
ethanol potential to make oil instead of vodka. If you grow
genetically engineered super-algae in open-air ponds, the genetically
modified algae will immediately be carried to ponds, lakes,
reservoirs, and oceans all over the world in the feathers of migrating
birds, with unknown and possibly catastrophic consequences. Using
agricultural waste water is a good idea for producing algae, and algae
may be of use to our society for making small amounts of fuel,
fertilizer, chicken feed, and lubricants. The acreage required to
replace all human oil consumption would obviously be impossible. "

Agricultural "waste" is not really an answer either.

"Using agricultural "waste" to make biofuels has its own problems.
Removing unused portions of plants that are normally plowed under
increases the need for nitrogen fertilizers, which release the most
potent greenhouse gas of all; nitrous oxide. Much of the residual
crop biomass must be returned to the soil to maintain topsoil
integrity, otherwise the rate of topsoil erosion will increase
dramatically. If we mine our topsoil for energy, we may end up
committing slow agricultural suicide like the Mayan Empire. Without
topsoil, the world starves!"

SEE "The biofuel hoax is causing a world food crisis!" at:
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

Christopher Calder

"The prospect of growing algae to make biodiesel has more positive
potential than making ethanol from switchgrass, but you are still
stuck with the fact that algae need solar energy to turn carbon
dioxide into fuel. To make biodiesel, algae are used as organic solar
panels which output oil instead of electricity. Research reports brag
that algae can produces 15 times more fuel per acre of land than
growing corn for ethanol, but that still means we would need
approximately 30 million acres of algae ponds in the USA to meet 100%
of our projected automotive fuel usage by the year 2022.

Good, sounds like H2O SCAM deal. Now back to Gasoline, I already found a
way to cut the fuel cost in half using your current combustion system, I
don't want to file for a patent, it's too costly and time consuming. if
BUSH
pays me, then your problem is solved. He spent $9b/day in IRAQ, if he pays
me only $2B, then US problem is solved.

calderh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:6408cd4d-73dd-42ec-8b8e-8b1eac23deb2@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...





I use to have some hope that biodiesel from algae might be a serious
fuel source some day, but after much exploration and doing the math,
it seems to me to be hardly worth the effort. The following is the
new update to my webpage on the biofuel hoax at:

http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

"The prospect of growing algae to make biodiesel has more positive
potential than making ethanol from switchgrass, but you are still
stuck with the fact that algae need solar energy to turn carbon
dioxide into fuel. To make biodiesel, algae are used as organic solar
panels which output oil instead of electricity. Research reports brag
that algae can produces 15 times more fuel per acre of land than
growing corn for ethanol, but that still means we would need
approximately 30 million acres of algae ponds in the USA to meet 100%
of our projected automotive fuel usage by the year 2022. That figure
does not include fuel for aircraft and ships. Those algae schemes
that use less land invariably call for feeding algae sugar. The sugar
must be made from corn or other crop, so you are simply trading
ethanol potential to make oil instead of vodka. If you grow
genetically engineered super-algae in open-air ponds, the genetically
modified algae will immediately be carried to ponds, lakes,
reservoirs, and oceans all over the world in the feathers of migrating
birds, with unknown and possibly catastrophic consequences. Using
agricultural waste water is a good idea for producing algae, and algae
may be of use to our society for making small amounts of fuel,
fertilizer, chicken feed, and lubricants. The acreage required to
replace all human oil consumption would obviously be impossible. "

Agricultural "waste" is not really an answer either.

"Using agricultural "waste" to make biofuels has its own problems.
Removing unused portions of plants that are normally plowed under
increases the need for nitrogen fertilizers, which release the most
potent greenhouse gas of all; nitrous oxide. Much of the residual
crop biomass must be returned to the soil to maintain topsoil
integrity, otherwise the rate of topsoil erosion will increase
dramatically. If we mine our topsoil for energy, we may end up
committing slow agricultural suicide like the Mayan Empire. Without
topsoil, the world starves!"

SEE "The biofuel hoax is causing a world food crisis!" at:
http://home.att.net/~meditation/bio-fuel-hoax.html

Christopher Calder

Good, sounds like H2O SCAM deal.

calderhome@yahoo.com wrote:
"The prospect of growing algae to make biodiesel has more positive
potential than making ethanol from switchgrass, but you are still
stuck with the fact that algae need solar energy to turn carbon
dioxide into fuel. To make biodiesel, algae are used as organic solar
panels which output oil instead of electricity. Research reports brag
that algae can produces 15 times more fuel per acre of land than
growing corn for ethanol, but that still means we would need
approximately 30 million acres of algae ponds in the USA to meet 100%
of our projected automotive fuel usage by the year 2022.

Algae doesn't have to be grown on land. It'll grow in salt water.
The world has a lot more salt water and sunlight than needed.

Algae doesn't have to meet 100% of our projected fuel usage by 2022
to be useful. It could provide just a part with other resources doing
their parts.

"Anthony Matonak" wrote in message...
Algae doesn't have to be grown on land. It'll grow in salt water.
The world has a lot more salt water and sunlight than needed.

Isn't it algae that causes the dead zone where the Mississippi dumps into the
gulf? Maybe that's the place to do it. Lots of nutrients are available from the
river.

Bob F wrote:
"Anthony Matonak" wrote in message...
Algae doesn't have to be grown on land. It'll grow in salt water.
The world has a lot more salt water and sunlight than needed.

Isn't it algae that causes the dead zone where the Mississippi dumps into the
gulf? Maybe that's the place to do it. Lots of nutrients are available from the
river.

I'm no expert in marine biology so I had to look up the coastal
dead zones. From what I've read, the problem is too much organic
material falling to the sea floor, decomposing and sucking up all
the available oxygen.

Perhaps we don't need to actually farm the algae but only to
harvest what is growing naturally in such abundance or some
method of mixing the waters to promote the growth of profitable
species such as fish.

What I don't understand is why people keep talking about building
ponds in the desert. Why? Another pork barrel project?

I use to have some hope that biodiesel from algae might be a serious
fuel source some day, but after much exploration and doing the math,
it seems to me to be hardly worth the effort. �The following is
========================================================I guess this proves that biodiesel from algae is the next big thing.