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| stryped |
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:38 am |
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| Does grinding a weld flush with the srrounding metal weaken the weld? |
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| Grant Erwin |
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:04 pm |
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stryped wrote:
Quote: Does grinding a weld flush with the srrounding metal weaken the weld?
If the weld is mostly lying on the surface, then yes. If the joint was
prepped to include some gap, then probably not much.
If I jam two pieces together and just run a bead down the butt and then flush
grind it, those kind of welds break a lot. Lots of times I'll jam the pieces
together and tack them, then run the edge of an angle grinder wheel down the
crack to open it up so the weld can penetrate. Depends.
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| SteveB |
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:43 pm |
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Does grinding a weld flush with the srrounding metal weaken the weld?
I don't know if it weakens the weld, but it does reduce the cross sectional
area of the filler metal that is actually the "patch". I do know that for
bend testing, failure can result if the tiny grooves are running across the
bend in the wrong direction.
Steve |
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:21 pm |
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"SteveB" <pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote in message
news:4g8id5-vvv2.ln1@news.infowest.com...
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Does grinding a weld flush with the srrounding metal weaken the weld?
I don't know if it weakens the weld, but it does reduce the cross
sectional area of the filler metal that is actually the "patch".
An excesive buildup (>~1/16-1/8") of weld metal above the surface of a 'full
penetration' weld wil make the weld more ridgid than the base metal, and
this combined with the stresses caused by the weld shrinkage and the
normally greater strength of the weld deposit can cause a concentration of
stress in the edge of the fusion zone and can lead to cracking beside the
weld.
This is similar to failures caused by repairs that have been 'reinforcd' by
'fish plates' which also tend to concentrate stresses in the area adjacent
to the now more rigid repair zone. There are several techniques used to
attempt to distribute the stress of the weld on the base plate and to reduce
the concentration of stress adjacent to a welded repair. These techniques
were more commonly required on older poorly designed digging booms which
cracked much more frequently than modern designs.
I do know that for
Quote: bend testing, failure can result if the tiny grooves are running across
the bend in the wrong direction.
Grinding marks can cause stress raisers or notches that can lead to failures
especially in high cycle loadings.
Just my .02 |
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