I got the SA 200 running today. I was lucky enough to get the distributor
right the first time I dropped it in, as it is either right or 180 out. New
plugs and points and everything. Tried to fire it and it wouldn't. Checked
spark by taking out plug and holding it to the head. Got too close to the
contact with my fingers, and got zapped good. It had spark.

Mounted the cartridge oil filter back on, installed new roll of toilet paper
filter, put in 1/3 qt. Marvel Mystery Oil and new 30 wt oil. All new lines.
Put on new gas line and filters.

I figured I'd be lucky if the carb would run without rebuilding from the
looks of everything else. I was right. Took it apart, and full of gook and
sand. Disassembled, made new gaskets, cleaned in Simple green solution, ran
pipe cleaners through, and blew out ports with compressed air, reassembled,
and after a couple of primings, it took off and stayed running. That
updraft carb was pretty simple, although I may not have it exactly right
yet, it was nice to take something totally alien apart and make it work.

I will hook the leads up tomorrow and see if it welds. They are a teal
color, and I cleaned them today with Simple Green soaking, and they look
great. Something's not quite right as it runs at high idle all the time,
and has to have the choke on to run. I'll play with it a bit, and make sure
it welds, and if I can't figure it out, I'll find a good mechanic familiar
with Lincolns or take it to a Lincoln service center. It's probably
something simple.

But it does run, and it sounds good and doesn't smoke. Tomorrow's another
day. Some work to be done on the trailer, as the weldor who owned this
wasn't much of a weldor. I'll post pics on Flickr. Just going to clean it
up, get it running right, paint it Lincoln grey with red trim to match my
truck, and put it to work.

It was kind of deja vu all over again. As a teenager in the sixties, I cut
my teeth on 55-57 Chevies. It was nice working with something with points
again, and simple components. And it was nice to see I can still take a
basket case and figure it out. It was sure sweet when it fired and ran.

Steve

I got the SA 200 running today.

"SteveB" <pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote in message
news:1pgbb5-kgt2.ln1@news.infowest.com...
I got the SA 200 running today.

Just couldn't stand it. SWMBO was late with dinner because of a home
remodeling show on TV, so I went out and put the leads on and fired it up.
Ran four 7018 rods, and it runs great. Used the plug for the Makita
stringer brush to clean them up. Ran them at slightly different settings,
and had one that just curled up and popped right off by itself. I love
those.

Running rods at night has an unusual aspect. The inside lower part of my
NexGen lens is white, and gives quite a reflection and distraction.

I'll get the engine hiccups solved, but the powerplant is okay. It's so
nice when a plan comes together.

Steve

If it only runs with the choke on you probably need to clean the carb

Higher or lower? I pulled it again this afternoon and ran some pipe
cleaners through again and blew some more air through, and it was better.
There are still a couple of small brass orifices I could not get out. And
one that takes a very big screwdriver that I cannot find, but will look
for. I tend to think it's something else, because when you put it on
automatic idle, it doesn't drop down when you cease welding. Even though
it would probably die if it did attempt to idle at a lower speed. Like I
said, I'll get it figured out or fix it. I'll pull it again today and
repeat. Hell, I can pull it off in five minutes now and be looking at the
float chamber.

"Bruce in Bangkok" <b*paige*125@g*mail.com> wrote in message
news:ud47u3hvt7v0eot02575v7nk46jn0luht9@4ax.com...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:39:18 -0800, "SteveB"
pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote:


"SteveB" <pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote in message
news:1pgbb5-kgt2.ln1@news.infowest.com...
I got the SA 200 running today.

Just couldn't stand it. SWMBO was late with dinner because of a home
remodeling show on TV, so I went out and put the leads on and fired it up.
Ran four 7018 rods, and it runs great. Used the plug for the Makita
stringer brush to clean them up. Ran them at slightly different settings,
and had one that just curled up and popped right off by itself. I love
those.

Running rods at night has an unusual aspect. The inside lower part of my
NexGen lens is white, and gives quite a reflection and distraction.

I'll get the engine hiccups solved, but the powerplant is okay. It's so
nice when a plan comes together.>Higher or lower? I pulled it again this afternoon and ran some pipe
cleaners through again and blew some more air through, and it was better.
There are still a couple of small brass orifices I could not get out. And
one that takes a very big screwdriver that I cannot find, but will look for.
I tend to think it's something else, because when you put it on automatic
idle, it doesn't drop down when you cease welding. Even though it would
probably die if it did attempt to idle at a lower speed. Like I said, I'll
get it figured out or fix it. I'll pull it again today and repeat. Hell, I
can pull it off in five minutes now and be looking at the float chamber.

Steve

Steve

If it only runs with the choke on you probably need to clean the carb
again and maybe reset the float level.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

Higher or lower? I pulled it again this afternoon and ran some pipe
cleaners through again and blew some more air through, and it was better.
There are still a couple of small brass orifices I could not get out. And
one that takes a very big screwdriver that I cannot find, but will look for.
I tend to think it's something else, because when you put it on automatic
idle, it doesn't drop down when you cease welding. Even though it would
probably die if it did attempt to idle at a lower speed. Like I said, I'll
get it figured out or fix it. I'll pull it again today and repeat. Hell, I
can pull it off in five minutes now and be looking at the float chamber.

Steve

Does the throttle linkage have a spring and vacuum chamber attached to
it?

There's two arms that run forward, one, I believe to the governor, the
other to a blue box which is mounted in the upper position. Both located
in the fan shroud area.

How much would you guess a carb is for these?

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:39:18 -0800, "SteveB"
pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote:


"SteveB" <pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote in message
news:1pgbb5-kgt2.ln1@news.infowest.com...
I got the SA 200 running today.

Just couldn't stand it. SWMBO was late with dinner because of a home
remodeling show on TV, so I went out and put the leads on and fired it up.
Ran four 7018 rods, and it runs great. Used the plug for the Makita
stringer brush to clean them up. Ran them at slightly different settings,
and had one that just curled up and popped right off by itself. I love
those.

Running rods at night has an unusual aspect. The inside lower part of my
NexGen lens is white, and gives quite a reflection and distraction.

I'll get the engine hiccups solved, but the powerplant is okay. It's so
nice when a plan comes together.

Steve

If it only runs with the choke on you probably need to clean the carb
again and maybe reset the float level.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

They looked to be a little downward from that position when I originally
looked at it, so I bent them more up parallel. I'm going to find that big
screwdriver today and pull that main jet. I think that sounds like the most
logical so far. But I will get some carb cleaner and probe with pipe
cleaners and blow with air again. These things can be messed up with the
tiniest bit of crud, and this had a LOT.

Steve

"SteveB" <pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote in message
news:sfjcb5-ve4.ln1@news.infowest.com...


Higher or lower? I pulled it again this afternoon and ran some pipe
cleaners through again and blew some more air through, and it was better.
There are still a couple of small brass orifices I could not get out.
And one that takes a very big screwdriver that I cannot find, but will
look for. I tend to think it's something else, because when you put it on
automatic idle, it doesn't drop down when you cease welding. Even though
it would probably die if it did attempt to idle at a lower speed. Like I
said, I'll get it figured out or fix it. I'll pull it again today and
repeat. Hell, I can pull it off in five minutes now and be looking at
the float chamber.


You have some trash left in the carb somewhere, having to leave the choke
on is a common problem on these carbs. A passage becomes blocked and you
need to increase the vacuum to get enough fuel. This happens to my
Continental powered fork lift sometimes.

Take great care in removing and replacing the orifices, this is pretty
much the whole ball game with carbs, but it needs to be done. Make sure
your screwdrivers fit correctly. If you round the edges of a stuck orifice
and can no longer remove it, you can just about toss the carb. Also take
care not to over tighen them when you replace them, they will need to come
out again some day. I use "Brake Clean" spray or "Carb and Choke" spray to
blown out the passages, followed by compressed air, unless you have
something better.

NAPA has a gasket set for the carb, and a high quality fuel filter is good
insurance for the future.

Does the throttle linkage have a spring and vacuum chamber attached to it?

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:41:33 -0800, "SteveB"
pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote:


"Bruce in Bangkok" <b*paige*125@g*mail.com> wrote in message
news:ud47u3hvt7v0eot02575v7nk46jn0luht9@4ax.com...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:39:18 -0800, "SteveB"
pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote:


"SteveB" <pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote in message
news:1pgbb5-kgt2.ln1@news.infowest.com...
I got the SA 200 running today.

Just couldn't stand it. SWMBO was late with dinner because of a home
remodeling show on TV, so I went out and put the leads on and fired it
up.
Ran four 7018 rods, and it runs great. Used the plug for the Makita
stringer brush to clean them up. Ran them at slightly different
settings,
and had one that just curled up and popped right off by itself. I love
those.

Running rods at night has an unusual aspect. The inside lower part of
my
NexGen lens is white, and gives quite a reflection and distraction.

I'll get the engine hiccups solved, but the powerplant is okay. It's so
nice when a plan comes together.>Higher or lower? I pulled it again
this afternoon and ran some pipe
cleaners through again and blew some more air through, and it was better.
There are still a couple of small brass orifices I could not get out. And
one that takes a very big screwdriver that I cannot find, but will look
for.
I tend to think it's something else, because when you put it on automatic
idle, it doesn't drop down when you cease welding. Even though it would
probably die if it did attempt to idle at a lower speed. Like I said,
I'll
get it figured out or fix it. I'll pull it again today and repeat. Hell,
I
can pull it off in five minutes now and be looking at the float chamber.

Steve

Steve

If it only runs with the choke on you probably need to clean the carb
again and maybe reset the float level.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

Higher or lower? I pulled it again this afternoon and ran some pipe
cleaners through again and blew some more air through, and it was better.
There are still a couple of small brass orifices I could not get out. And
one that takes a very big screwdriver that I cannot find, but will look
for.
I tend to think it's something else, because when you put it on automatic
idle, it doesn't drop down when you cease welding. Even though it would
probably die if it did attempt to idle at a lower speed. Like I said,
I'll
get it figured out or fix it. I'll pull it again today and repeat. Hell,
I
can pull it off in five minutes now and be looking at the float chamber.

Steve

If the thing only runs with the choke on then you aren't getting
enough gas through the carburetor. I'd first make sure that it was
clean. You probably have some jets clogged somewhere. The one that
takes the big screwdriver is probably the main jet. Get it out and be
sure that the holes from the jet into the throat of the carb is
clear. Carbonator Cleaner is your friend.

I've seen two types of welders. We had some old Lincolns with the
Perkins engine that always ran at the same speed. Then others have a
sort of a relay that speed the engine up when you start to weld and
idle back when you aren't welding.

If I didn't have any specs I'd set the float level so when you turn
the carb top bottom side up the floats are parallel with the cover.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

"Bruce in Bangkok" <b*paige*125@g*mail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:41:33 -0800, "SteveB"
pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote:


"Bruce in Bangkok" <b*paige*125@g*mail.com> wrote in message
news:ud47u3hvt7v0eot02575v7nk46jn0luht9@4ax.com...
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:39:18 -0800, "SteveB"
pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote:


"SteveB" <pittmanpirate@henderson.com> wrote in message
news:1pgbb5-kgt2.ln1@news.infowest.com...
I got the SA 200 running today.

Just couldn't stand it. SWMBO was late with dinner because of a home
remodeling show on TV, so I went out and put the leads on and fired it
up.
Ran four 7018 rods, and it runs great. Used the plug for the Makita
stringer brush to clean them up. Ran them at slightly different
settings,
and had one that just curled up and popped right off by itself. I love
those.

Running rods at night has an unusual aspect. The inside lower part of
my
NexGen lens is white, and gives quite a reflection and distraction.

I'll get the engine hiccups solved, but the powerplant is okay. It's so
nice when a plan comes together.>Higher or lower? I pulled it again
this afternoon and ran some pipe
cleaners through again and blew some more air through, and it was better.
There are still a couple of small brass orifices I could not get out. And
one that takes a very big screwdriver that I cannot find, but will look
for.
I tend to think it's something else, because when you put it on automatic
idle, it doesn't drop down when you cease welding. Even though it would
probably die if it did attempt to idle at a lower speed. Like I said,
I'll
get it figured out or fix it. I'll pull it again today and repeat. Hell,
I
can pull it off in five minutes now and be looking at the float chamber.

Steve

Steve

If it only runs with the choke on you probably need to clean the carb
again and maybe reset the float level.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

Higher or lower? I pulled it again this afternoon and ran some pipe
cleaners through again and blew some more air through, and it was better.
There are still a couple of small brass orifices I could not get out. And
one that takes a very big screwdriver that I cannot find, but will look
for.
I tend to think it's something else, because when you put it on automatic
idle, it doesn't drop down when you cease welding. Even though it would
probably die if it did attempt to idle at a lower speed. Like I said,
I'll
get it figured out or fix it. I'll pull it again today and repeat. Hell,
I
can pull it off in five minutes now and be looking at the float chamber.

Steve

If the thing only runs with the choke on then you aren't getting
enough gas through the carburetor. I'd first make sure that it was
clean. You probably have some jets clogged somewhere. The one that
takes the big screwdriver is probably the main jet. Get it out and be
sure that the holes from the jet into the throat of the carb is
clear. Carbonator Cleaner is your friend.

I've seen two types of welders. We had some old Lincolns with the
Perkins engine that always ran at the same speed. Then others have a
sort of a relay that speed the engine up when you start to weld and
idle back when you aren't welding.

If I didn't have any specs I'd set the float level so when you turn
the carb top bottom side up the floats are parallel with the cover.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

They looked to be a little downward from that position when I originally
looked at it, so I bent them more up parallel. I'm going to find that big
screwdriver today and pull that main jet. I think that sounds like the most
logical so far. But I will get some carb cleaner and probe with pipe
cleaners and blow with air again. These things can be messed up with the
tiniest bit of crud, and this had a LOT.

Steve

They looked to be a little downward from that position when I originally
looked at it, so I bent them more up parallel. I'm going to find that big
screwdriver today and pull that main jet. I think that sounds like the most
logical so far. But I will get some carb cleaner and probe with pipe
cleaners and blow with air again. These things can be messed up with the
tiniest bit of crud, and this had a LOT.

Steve