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| maxson@mission51l.com |
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:03 am |
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There was NO "R-aft SRB burnthrough" on Challenger, folks, just a big
hydrogen fire at the R-aft SRB attach, heated by R-aft RCS firings and
followed by a R-OMS/RCS explosion. Now you can see the progression of
the blast and its cover-up by NASA.
My third web strip is finally up! You'll find it at:
<http://mission51l.com/X3.htm>.
Thanks for following along. More to come in the weeks ahead.
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:43 am |
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On Feb 15, 9:03 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com>
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Quote: There was NO "R-aft SRB burnthrough" on Challenger, folks, just a big
hydrogen fire at the R-aft SRB attach, heated by R-aft RCS firings and
followed by a R-OMS/RCS explosion. Now you can see the progression of
the blast and its cover-up by NASA.
Where is the telemetry that shows the RCS firing? |
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| maxson@mission51l.com |
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:59 am |
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On Feb 15, 8:43 am, behlin...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote: On Feb 15, 9:03 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com
wrote:> There was NO "R-aft SRB burnthrough" on Challenger, folks, just a big
hydrogen fire at the R-aft SRB attach, heated by R-aft RCS firings and
followed by a R-OMS/RCS explosion. Now you can see the progression of
the blast and its cover-up by NASA.
Where is the telemetry that shows the RCS firing?
Where is the recovered Challenger debris, buried in missile silos?
Why did Gary Coultas testify under oath that JSC "didn't look at the
valve commands?"
Ask Sam Beddingfield, if he's still living. He vouched for my RCS
telemetry on a PBS Challenger Special, back in January 1988 (or maybe
1987).
Where have you been living all your life, in a North Carolina cave? If
anyone's sounding irrational and delusional, it's YOU. Get a grip!
You're like the little boy who asked the teacher from the back of the
room:
"Where does the white go when the snow melts?"
Start asking NASA your 'doubting Thomas' questions, if you have the
brass.
JTM |
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:58 am |
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On Feb 15, 9:59 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com>
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Quote: Where have you been living all your life, in a North Carolina cave?
I have been living among the sane people
Quote: If anyone's sounding irrational and delusional,
Seems like you are looking in a mirror again
Quote: it's YOU. Get a grip!
I have a firm grip on reality. |
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| maxson@mission51l.com |
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:11 am |
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On Feb 15, 9:58 am, behlin...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote: On Feb 15, 9:59 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com
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I have a firm grip on reality.
Heh, heh, heh!
Like this pitifully aiding-and-abetting babble:
"In the big picture, what does it matter? The astronaut families got a
settlement. ET or SRB? Thiokol didn't to complain that they were
blamed and accepted it. Still what does it matter? Nobody cares
anymore"
Not everybody just fell off the turnip truck. Enron is a good example.
Your "big picture" has some unpunished criminals lurking around in it.
"Birds of a feather ..."
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| maxson@mission51l.com |
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:38 am |
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On Feb 15, 12:21 pm, "Jeff Findley" <jeff.find...@ugs.nojunk.com>
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Quote: behlin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:620f3c51-caa9-4ca5-a39f-bd1ebdc55c76@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 15, 9:03 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com
wrote:
There was NO "R-aft SRB burnthrough" on Challenger, folks, just a big
hydrogen fire at the R-aft SRB attach, heated by R-aft RCS firings and
followed by a R-OMS/RCS explosion. Now you can see the progression of
the blast and its cover-up by NASA.
Where is the telemetry that shows the RCS firing?
There isn't any. Please killfile Maxson. He's been posting the same crap
for years. There is no point in responding to him.
You know Findley, I've had about all the libel from you that I can
stomach. You'd better be prepared to prove what you've said about me
and to defend what you've redundantly told others to do about me -- in
court.
JTM |
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| maxson@mission51l.com |
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:01 pm |
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On Feb 15, 2:19 pm, "T.B." <Partyslam...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
Quote: max...@mission51l.com babbled:
On Feb 15, 12:21 pm, "Jeff Findley" <jeff.find...@ugs.nojunk.com
wrote:
behlin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:620f3c51-caa9-4ca5-a39f-bd1ebdc55c76@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 15, 9:03 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com
wrote:
There was NO "R-aft SRB burnthrough" on Challenger, folks, just a big
hydrogen fire at the R-aft SRB attach, heated by R-aft RCS firings and
followed by a R-OMS/RCS explosion. Now you can see the progression of
the blast and its cover-up by NASA.
Where is the telemetry that shows the RCS firing?
There isn't any. Please killfile Maxson. He's been posting the same crap
for years. There is no point in responding to him.
You know Findley, I've had about all the libel from you that I can
stomach. You'd better be prepared to prove what you've said about me
and to defend what you've redundantly told others to do about me -- in
court.
+++++++++++++++
As a lurker and rare poster in this newsgroup, you strike me as someone with
some serious personal issues.
And your posting history strikes me as unsuitable to be making such a
comment about me.
JTM -- <www.mission51l.com> |
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| Jeff Findley |
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:21 pm |
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<behlingjo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:620f3c51-caa9-4ca5-a39f-bd1ebdc55c76@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Quote: On Feb 15, 9:03 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com
wrote:
There was NO "R-aft SRB burnthrough" on Challenger, folks, just a big
hydrogen fire at the R-aft SRB attach, heated by R-aft RCS firings and
followed by a R-OMS/RCS explosion. Now you can see the progression of
the blast and its cover-up by NASA.
Where is the telemetry that shows the RCS firing?
There isn't any. Please killfile Maxson. He's been posting the same crap
for years. There is no point in responding to him.
Jeff
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A clever person solves a problem.
A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein |
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| maxson@mission51l.com |
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:02 pm |
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On Feb 15, 6:28 pm, Brian Thorn <bthor...@suddenlink.net> wrote:
Quote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:19:16 -0800, "T.B." <Partyslam...@socal.rr.com
wrote:
As a lurker and rare poster in this newsgroup, you strike me as someone with
some serious personal issues.
Perhaps, but traditional notions of what is and is not decent usenet
behavior are waived for anything to do with Maxson, who is a nutcase,
pure and simple and deserves to be treated as such.
Brian
Right, tougher than a hickory nut and 'Crazy Like a Fox.' Good enough
to handle the fruitcakes like you -- the ones too nutty to address
technical content.
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| T.B. |
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:19 pm |
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maxson@mission51l.com babbled:
On Feb 15, 12:21 pm, "Jeff Findley" <jeff.find...@ugs.nojunk.com>
wrote:
Quote: behlin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:620f3c51-caa9-4ca5-a39f-bd1ebdc55c76@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 15, 9:03 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com
wrote:
There was NO "R-aft SRB burnthrough" on Challenger, folks, just a big
hydrogen fire at the R-aft SRB attach, heated by R-aft RCS firings and
followed by a R-OMS/RCS explosion. Now you can see the progression of
the blast and its cover-up by NASA.
Where is the telemetry that shows the RCS firing?
There isn't any. Please killfile Maxson. He's been posting the same crap
for years. There is no point in responding to him.
You know Findley, I've had about all the libel from you that I can
stomach. You'd better be prepared to prove what you've said about me
and to defend what you've redundantly told others to do about me -- in
court.
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As a lurker and rare poster in this newsgroup, you strike me as someone with
some serious personal issues.
T.B. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:28 pm |
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:19:16 -0800, "T.B." <Partyslammer@socal.rr.com>
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Quote: As a lurker and rare poster in this newsgroup, you strike me as someone with
some serious personal issues.
Perhaps, but traditional notions of what is and is not decent usenet
behavior are waived for anything to do with Maxson, who is a nutcase,
pure and simple and deserves to be treated as such.
Brian |
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:13 am |
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maxson@mission51l.com replied:
Quote: Like this pitifully aiding-and-abetting babble:
"In the big picture, what does it matter? The astronaut families got a
settlement. ET or SRB? Thiokol didn't to complain that they were
blamed and accepted it. Still what does it matter? Nobody cares
anymore"
Not everybody just fell off the turnip truck. Enron is a good example.
Your "big picture" has some unpunished criminals lurking around in it.
High-echelon, white-collar criminals in Lockheed and in the Reagan/
Bush administration, I should add. Of course in order to ensure
Challenger's complete destruction, they had to employ a few people not
unlike the "Watergate plumbers" of the Nixon administration.
What's your background, plumber's helper?
JTM |
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| maxson@mission51l.com |
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:30 am |
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On Feb 16, 2:08 pm, "T.B." <Partyslam...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
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One could ask you the same question.
<www.mission51l.com>
Quote: BTW, nothing's funnier than a usenet goof who can't wait and replies to his
own posts.
Then laugh it up at Jorge Frank, et al. They do it frequently here.
The epitome of a big joke is someone like you who makes personal
attacks because he hasn't the technical knowledge to reply on the
merits.
JTM |
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| maxson@mission51l.com |
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:48 pm |
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On Feb 16, 5:30 pm, "T.B." <Partyslam...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
Quote: max...@mission51l.com farted:
One could ask you the same question.
www.mission51l.com
BTW, nothing's funnier than a usenet goof who can't wait and replies to
his
own posts.
Then laugh it up at Jorge Frank, et al. They do it frequently here.
The epitome of a big joke is someone like you who makes personal
attacks because he hasn't the technical knowledge to reply on the
merits.
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I don't see your qualifications on the footer of any of your posts, nutcase.
As far as I can tell, you've cobbled together a bunch of selective
information to support some bizarre, unsubstantiated paranoid delusional
theories and have clung to them for years on usenet with absolutely no
results, other than becoming the target of general derision from
half-interested people like me.
T.B.
Yes, that's apparently as far as you can see. Good luck to you anyway.
JTM |
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:08 pm |
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maxson@mission51l.com queefed:
Quote:
I have a firm grip on reality.
maxson@mission51l.com replied:
Quote: Like this pitifully aiding-and-abetting babble:
"In the big picture, what does it matter? The astronaut families got a
settlement. ET or SRB? Thiokol didn't to complain that they were
blamed and accepted it. Still what does it matter? Nobody cares
anymore"
Not everybody just fell off the turnip truck. Enron is a good example.
Your "big picture" has some unpunished criminals lurking around in it.
High-echelon, white-collar criminals in Lockheed and in the Reagan/
Bush administration, I should add. Of course in order to ensure
Challenger's complete destruction, they had to employ a few people not
unlike the "Watergate plumbers" of the Nixon administration.
What's your background, plumber's helper?
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One could ask you the same question. It's clear you're living in some sort
of mental health facility with lots of time on your hands, as you're clearly
unemployed and have been for a long time.
BTW, nothing's funnier than a usenet goof who can't wait and replies to his
own posts.
T.B. |
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