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| Weatherlawyer |
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:05 am |
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Way OT no doubt but a bridge collapse in Minneapolis (over the
Mississippi I gather) occurred coincidentally with a large magnitude
earthquake on the other side of the globe.
(7.2; Vanuatu.)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
I have noticed that there is always a man made catastrophe on almost
all the occasions when a large magnitude quake takes place. I had
always assumed the cause was some psychosomatic harmonic in tune or
dissonant to those harmonics in the earth that occur on such
occasions.
Spindly though they look on video:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/08/02/bridge.collapse/?iref=mpstoryview
.....and even though the bridge was under repair at the time, it is
difficult to see how this one fits in with air crashes, ferry-boats
overturning and the usual sort of thing where a small crew look to
have been having a bad day.
I wonder would some clever chappie run a great circle spanning them -
over the the Andreanof Islands, if that is possible. I am not saying
that that looks like a line as I haven't looked. I have only just got
up and need my breakfast.
It just looks likely to my untrained eye.
(As is usually the case on these occasions, I get sidetracked with
computer problems. Something to do with AOL upgrades and Java last
night, I suspect. It isn't easy being fey.) |
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| George |
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:21 pm |
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"Weatherlawyer" <Weatherlawyer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186056345.059990.205450@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Quote: Way OT no doubt but a bridge collapse in Minneapolis (over the
Mississippi I gather) occurred coincidentally with a large magnitude
earthquake on the other side of the globe.
(7.2; Vanuatu.)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
I have noticed that there is always a man made catastrophe on almost
all the occasions when a large magnitude quake takes place. I had
always assumed the cause was some psychosomatic harmonic in tune or
dissonant to those harmonics in the earth that occur on such
occasions.
Spindly though they look on video:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/08/02/bridge.collapse/?iref=mpstoryview
....and even though the bridge was under repair at the time, it is
difficult to see how this one fits in with air crashes, ferry-boats
overturning and the usual sort of thing where a small crew look to
have been having a bad day.
I wonder would some clever chappie run a great circle spanning them -
over the the Andreanof Islands, if that is possible. I am not saying
that that looks like a line as I haven't looked. I have only just got
up and need my breakfast.
It just looks likely to my untrained eye.
(As is usually the case on these occasions, I get sidetracked with
computer problems. Something to do with AOL upgrades and Java last
night, I suspect. It isn't easy being fey.)
You might want to go to sci.geo.geology and read my thread "about the
Minneapolis bridge collapse". By the way, the video that caught the
collapse had no indication that there was any kind of shaking going on
prior to the collapse, and no reported shaking by anyone in the vicinity
prior to the collapse.
George |
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:28 pm |
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On Aug 2, 6:21 pm, "George" <geo...@yourservice.com> wrote:
Quote: "Weatherlawyer" <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186056345.059990.205450@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Way OT no doubt but a bridge collapse in Minneapolis (over the
Mississippi I gather) occurred coincidentally with a large magnitude
earthquake on the other side of the globe.
(7.2; Vanuatu.)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
I have noticed that there is always a man made catastrophe on almost
all the occasions when a large magnitude quake takes place. I had
always assumed the cause was some psychosomatic harmonic in tune or
dissonant to those harmonics in the earth that occur on such
occasions.
Spindly though they look on video:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/08/02/bridge.collapse/?iref=mpstoryview
....and even though the bridge was under repair at the time, it is
difficult to see how this one fits in with air crashes, ferry-boats
overturning and the usual sort of thing where a small crew look to
have been having a bad day.
I wonder would some clever chappie run a great circle spanning them -
over the the Andreanof Islands, if that is possible. I am not saying
that that looks like a line as I haven't looked. I have only just got
up and need my breakfast.
It just looks likely to my untrained eye.
(As is usually the case on these occasions, I get sidetracked with
computer problems. Something to do with AOL upgrades and Java last
night, I suspect. It isn't easy being fey.)
You might want to go to sci.geo.geology and read my thread "about the
Minneapolis bridge collapse". By the way, the video that caught the
collapse had no indication that there was any kind of shaking going on
prior to the collapse, and no reported shaking by anyone in the vicinity
prior to the collapse.
George- Hide quoted text -
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Perhaps WeatherLawyer was implying that the bridge collapse caused the
earthquake?
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| George |
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:28 am |
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"Alexm" <amcwill417@msn.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Aug 2, 6:21 pm, "George" <geo...@yourservice.com> wrote:
"Weatherlawyer" <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186056345.059990.205450@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Way OT no doubt but a bridge collapse in Minneapolis (over the
Mississippi I gather) occurred coincidentally with a large magnitude
earthquake on the other side of the globe.
(7.2; Vanuatu.)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
I have noticed that there is always a man made catastrophe on almost
all the occasions when a large magnitude quake takes place. I had
always assumed the cause was some psychosomatic harmonic in tune or
dissonant to those harmonics in the earth that occur on such
occasions.
Spindly though they look on video:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/08/02/bridge.collapse/?iref=mpstoryview
....and even though the bridge was under repair at the time, it is
difficult to see how this one fits in with air crashes, ferry-boats
overturning and the usual sort of thing where a small crew look to
have been having a bad day.
I wonder would some clever chappie run a great circle spanning them -
over the the Andreanof Islands, if that is possible. I am not saying
that that looks like a line as I haven't looked. I have only just got
up and need my breakfast.
It just looks likely to my untrained eye.
(As is usually the case on these occasions, I get sidetracked with
computer problems. Something to do with AOL upgrades and Java last
night, I suspect. It isn't easy being fey.)
You might want to go to sci.geo.geology and read my thread "about the
Minneapolis bridge collapse". By the way, the video that caught the
collapse had no indication that there was any kind of shaking going on
prior to the collapse, and no reported shaking by anyone in the vicinity
prior to the collapse.
George- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Perhaps WeatherLawyer was implying that the bridge collapse caused the
earthquake?
AlexM
On the opposite side of the Earth? Yeah, right.
George |
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| Weatherlawyer |
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:55 pm |
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On Aug 2, 1:05 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Way OT no doubt but a bridge collapse in Minneapolis (over the
Mississippi I gather) occurred coincidentally with a large magnitude
earthquake on the other side of the globe.
(7.2; Vanuatu.)http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
I have noticed that there is always a man made catastrophe on almost
all the occasions when a large magnitude quake takes place. I had
always assumed the cause was some psychosomatic harmonic in tune or
dissonant to those harmonics in the earth that occur on such
occasions.
Spindly though they look on video:http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/08/02/bridge.collapse/?iref=mpstoryview
....and even though the bridge was under repair at the time, it is
difficult to see how this one fits in with air crashes, ferry-boats
overturning and the usual sort of thing where a small crew look to
have been having a bad day.
I wonder would some clever chappie run a great circle spanning them -
over the the Andreanof Islands, if that is possible. I am not saying
that that looks like a line as I haven't looked. I have only just got
up and need my breakfast.
It just looks likely to my untrained eye.
(As is usually the case on these occasions, I get sidetracked with
computer problems. Something to do with AOL upgrades and Java last
night, I suspect. It isn't easy being fey.)
I wonder what it must feel like if you were a so called expert to be
unable to explain how activity seems to suddenly spurt up all over the
place and have no explanation to offer. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:14 am |
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On Aug 4, 7:55 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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I wonder what it must feel like if you were a so called expert to be
unable to explain how activity seems to suddenly spurt up all over the
place and have no explanation to offer.
Here is an essay on stretching things or rather laying it on a bit
thick:
http://video.aol.co.uk/video-funny/1930141
Either he is lying against what is really the floor not the wal. Or as
seems more likely by the stress on his wrist and finger and by the way
his clothing hangs or is pulled, he is supported with straps glued to
his skin or stitched to his clothing and fastened through the wall
behind his boots.
The point being that things are seldom what they seem and obeying the
monkey see monkey believe principle will often leave you gasping.
What is to be made of the fact that several hi-tech disasters seem to
occur within a few days of severe natural ones. Is it just clever
conjuring or is there a link? |
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| Weatherlawyer |
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:45 am |
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On Aug 8, 12:14 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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What is to be made of the fact that several hi-tech disasters seem to
occur within a few days of severe natural ones. Is it just clever
conjuring or is there a link?
Here is another one:
I have a selection of weekly bulletins from EarthObservatory
newsletters but you can get better detailed archives from:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/tropicalcyclone/verification.html
and
http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Dust/
Here is what was available from satellites during the end of 2003:
Spring Bloom around New Zealand http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16380
Fires and Haze in Southeastern China
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16379
Alluvial Fan in Western China http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16378
Fall Crops Fail to Emerge Across UK
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16377
Super Typhoon Lupit West of the Philippines
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16376
Volcano Licancabur http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16375
Lower Danube Green Corridor http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16374
Fall Colors Portland, Maine http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16372
Pay attention to the basins and the relative strengths of these
cyclones:
Beni
Nepartak
Lupit and
Debbie.
You can also check out whether it si true or seems true, that during
largish volcanic eruptions, there is a tendency to Blocking Highs or
(RexBlocks) that I have until now perceived as negative oscillations
in the North Atlantic.
Or you can play the fool and ignore the writing on the wall. (Please
yourself.)
And just to round it out and bring it on topic for s.g.e. here are
some serious earthquake dates:
2003 12 27 - Southeast of the Loyalty Islands - M 7.3
2003 12 26 - Southeastern Iran - M 6.6 Fatalities 31,000
2003 12 22 - San Simeon, California - M 6.6 Fatalities 2
2003 12 10 - Taiwan - M 6.8
2003 12 09 - Virginia - M 4.5
2003 12 05 - Komandorskiye Ostrova, Russia Region - M 6.7
2003 11 18 - Samar, Philippines - M 6.5 Fatalities 1
2003 11 17 - Rat Islands, Aleutian Islands, Alaska - M 7.8
2003 11 06 - Vanuatu Islands - M 6.6
2003 10 31 - Off the East Coast of Honshu, Japan - M 7.0
(The USA places the dates as Year, Month, Date. (They have a peculiar
way with private addresses too. Very quaint -if somewhat irritating.))
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/world/historical.php |
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| Weatherlawyer |
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:15 am |
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:20 am |
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"Weatherlawyer" <Weatherlawyer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186573534.069722.204840@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Quote: On Aug 8, 12:14 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What is to be made of the fact that several hi-tech disasters seem to
occur within a few days of severe natural ones. Is it just clever
conjuring or is there a link?
Here is another one:
I have a selection of weekly bulletins from EarthObservatory
newsletters but you can get better detailed archives from:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/tropicalcyclone/verification.html
and
http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Dust/
Here is what was available from satellites during the end of 2003:
Spring Bloom around New Zealand
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16380
Fires and Haze in Southeastern China
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16379
Alluvial Fan in Western China
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16378
Fall Crops Fail to Emerge Across UK
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16377
Super Typhoon Lupit West of the Philippines
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16376
Volcano Licancabur
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16375
Lower Danube Green Corridor
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16374
Fall Colors Portland, Maine
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16372
Pay attention to the basins and the relative strengths of these
cyclones:
Beni
Nepartak
Lupit and
Debbie.
You can also check out whether it si true or seems true, that during
largish volcanic eruptions, there is a tendency to Blocking Highs or
(RexBlocks) that I have until now perceived as negative oscillations
in the North Atlantic.
Or you can play the fool and ignore the writing on the wall. (Please
yourself.)
And just to round it out and bring it on topic for s.g.e. here are
some serious earthquake dates:
2003 12 27 - Southeast of the Loyalty Islands - M 7.3
2003 12 26 - Southeastern Iran - M 6.6 Fatalities 31,000
2003 12 22 - San Simeon, California - M 6.6 Fatalities 2
2003 12 10 - Taiwan - M 6.8
2003 12 09 - Virginia - M 4.5
2003 12 05 - Komandorskiye Ostrova, Russia Region - M 6.7
2003 11 18 - Samar, Philippines - M 6.5 Fatalities 1
2003 11 17 - Rat Islands, Aleutian Islands, Alaska - M 7.8
2003 11 06 - Vanuatu Islands - M 6.6
2003 10 31 - Off the East Coast of Honshu, Japan - M 7.0
(The USA places the dates as Year, Month, Date. (They have a peculiar
way with private addresses too. Very quaint -if somewhat irritating.))
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/world/historical.php
What an extraordinarily perfect example of data-picking! Half of the listed
quakes are in the mid-M6 range, and one is a piddling M4.5! There are more
than 100 quakes/year of M6.0 and greater, and well over 15000 larger than
M4.0.
Michael Williams
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:57 pm |
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On Aug 8, 2:20 pm, "Mike Williams" <miklw...@pacbell.net> wrote:
Quote: "Weatherlawyer" <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186573534.069722.204840@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 8, 12:14 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What is to be made of the fact that several hi-tech disasters seem to
occur within a few days of severe natural ones. Is it just clever
conjuring or is there a link?
Here is another one:
I have a selection of weekly bulletins from EarthObservatory
newsletters but you can get better detailed archives from:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/tropicalcyclone/verification.html
and
http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Dust/
Here is what was available from satellites during the end of 2003:
Spring Bloom around New Zealand
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_i...
Fires and Haze in Southeastern China
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_i...
Alluvial Fan in Western China
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_i...
Fall Crops Fail to Emerge Across UK
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_i...
Super Typhoon Lupit West of the Philippines
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_i...
Volcano Licancabur
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_i...
Lower Danube Green Corridor
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_i...
Fall Colors Portland, Maine
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_i...
Pay attention to the basins and the relative strengths of these
cyclones:
Beni
Nepartak
Lupit and
Debbie.
You can also check out whether it si true or seems true, that during
largish volcanic eruptions, there is a tendency to Blocking Highs or
(RexBlocks) that I have until now perceived as negative oscillations
in the North Atlantic.
Or you can play the fool and ignore the writing on the wall. (Please
yourself.)
And just to round it out and bring it on topic for s.g.e. here are
some serious earthquake dates:
2003 12 27 - Southeast of the Loyalty Islands - M 7.3
2003 12 26 - Southeastern Iran - M 6.6 Fatalities 31,000
2003 12 22 - San Simeon, California - M 6.6 Fatalities 2
2003 12 10 - Taiwan - M 6.8
2003 12 09 - Virginia - M 4.5
2003 12 05 - Komandorskiye Ostrova, Russia Region - M 6.7
2003 11 18 - Samar, Philippines - M 6.5 Fatalities 1
2003 11 17 - Rat Islands, Aleutian Islands, Alaska - M 7.8
2003 11 06 - Vanuatu Islands - M 6.6
2003 10 31 - Off the East Coast of Honshu, Japan - M 7.0
(The USA places the dates as Year, Month, Date. (They have a peculiar
way with private addresses too. Very quaint -if somewhat irritating.))
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/world/historical.php
What an extraordinarily perfect example of data-picking! Half of the listed
quakes are in the mid-M6 range, and one is a piddling M4.5! There are more
than 100 quakes/year of M6.0 and greater, and well over 15000 larger than
M4.0.
One <b>can only</b> "cherry pick" with archived material but in this
case it was a matter of laziness coupled with the haste to get the
message posted before my damned computer BSODed on me, again.
I always get computer problems when breaking new ground or I wish to
make a post about something both extreme and topical. It is
particularly painful when I have something new I want to write about.
Perhaps its god putting the breaks on me, giving me another chance to
think things thorough, to coin yet another one.
But the fact is that I was referring you and anyone else to the large
earthquakes in that list. I am not interested in anything below 6.6 M
and for that matter nothing much less than hurricane strength when it
comes to the weather.
As far as the mid six-M's and up to about 7 M, a chain of those only
suggests a severe quake is imminent if the other parameters fit too.
It is only the severe events that have enough amplitude to show up in
all countries as their own particular output/input on the geophysical
models (that are not yet written.)
Whilst I am at it, I must tell everyone that I don't write for them or
for warning others but to see how things turn out. I know one day when
the renaissance occurs in earth science, that I shall be in there
perhaps as someone's postscript or cross reference.
And I write because I have to. |
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| Weatherlawyer |
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:22 am |
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:52 am |
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On Aug 9, 8:22 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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But stuff that is happening NOW is impossible to fake. And if I am
correct, then the things like these:http://news.google.co.uk/news?q=~air%20~crash&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=o...
....will get reported most often on occasions such as the one I am
discussing.
Another point worth putting in here about cherry picking:
When one is looking specifically for a particular sort of event to
occur, if they occur with more regularity than one is aware of, then
too you you will end up cherry picking. This is why it would be an
idea to have a data base. (Something I have been considering building
but I don't know where to start or how to go about it.)
What I meant to point out in all the links I was posting yesterday
that earned the ire of Mr Williams, was that to get a better search
pattern from Google you need to add this sign: ~
....to the words. They enable the engine to find similar meanings.
Another thing is... do you put plus and minus signs in front of
words?
If you want Google to alert you every time a series of events occurs
how do you get it to send un-alerts? Or do you just have to suppose
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:56 am |
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psycosomatic oui. we have found it so in France
Weatherlawyer wrote:
Quote: Way OT no doubt but a bridge collapse in Minneapolis (over the
Mississippi I gather) occurred coincidentally with a large magnitude
earthquake on the other side of the globe.
(7.2; Vanuatu.)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
I have noticed that there is always a man made catastrophe on almost
all the occasions when a large magnitude quake takes place. I had
always assumed the cause was some psychosomatic harmonic in tune or
dissonant to those harmonics in the earth that occur on such
occasions.
Spindly though they look on video:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/08/02/bridge.collapse/?iref=mpstoryview
....and even though the bridge was under repair at the time, it is
difficult to see how this one fits in with air crashes, ferry-boats
overturning and the usual sort of thing where a small crew look to
have been having a bad day.
I wonder would some clever chappie run a great circle spanning them -
over the the Andreanof Islands, if that is possible. I am not saying
that that looks like a line as I haven't looked. I have only just got
up and need my breakfast.
It just looks likely to my untrained eye.
(As is usually the case on these occasions, I get sidetracked with
computer problems. Something to do with AOL upgrades and Java last
night, I suspect. It isn't easy being fey.)
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:47 am |
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"Weatherlawyer" <Weatherlawyer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm really not at all sure what your theory is, or what you are trying to
correlate, but are you suggesting that the list of articles on recent (or
not so recent) air crashes from Google is exceptional in some way? 'Cause I
certainly didn't think so. And how is choosing search terms, even for
current events, not subject to "cherry-picking" of data?
Michael Williams
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| Weatherlawyer |
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:07 pm |
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Mike Williams wrote:
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And how is choosing search terms, even for
current events, not subject to "cherry-picking" of data?
It is.
But forecasting them -no matter how common the event, isn't.
You can get Google.mail to send you alerts of whatever you plug into
their machine. I was merely looking at different ways to optimise
those alerts.
Or rather: I was trying to alert others, as I don't have the
concentration needed for that sort of thing. Then all you/they'd need
is the genius to see what I see.
I have read, I am almost sure, disparaging remarks about me from you.
I would be a fool to get involved with someone like that, would I not?
But as I have said previously, I am capable of acts of great
magnanimity. So, so long as you have at least followed me assiduously,
you may continue to question me.
Just be careful. I am also capable of stupid actions concerning
feverish violence. |
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