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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:12 am |
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:06 am |
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On Jan 23, 5:31 am, mirage <mjohnso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote: On Jan 22, 1:12 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Full Moon . . . . at: 13:35.
A band of cloud running from Mexico to Canada.
It's nice when I'm on the ball.
On the ball? What do you mean? On the ball about posting data from
an astronomical ephemeris calculated by someone else? On the ball in
posting the location of some clouds? Why is that nice? Did you
forget to include some conclusion that we should all draw from these
two, seemingly, unrelated factoids?
Yes.
And no.
I didn't forget. I just read my previous stuff. I suggest you make
more effort. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:25 am |
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On Jan 23, 10:06 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jan 23, 5:31 am, mirage <mjohnso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Jan 22, 1:12 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Full Moon . . . . at: 13:35.
A band of cloud running from Mexico to Canada.
It's nice when I'm on the ball.
On the ball? What do you mean? On the ball about posting data from
an astronomical ephemeris calculated by someone else? On the ball in
posting the location of some clouds? Why is that nice? Did you
forget to include some conclusion that we should all draw from these
two, seemingly, unrelated factoids?
Yes.
And no.
I didn't forget. I just read my previous stuff. I suggest you make
more effort.
Just in case anyone else should feel dispirited by my recalcitrance
here is some alleviation so that you have less than nothing to do:
On Jan 22, 3:17 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jan 20, 1:53 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 19, 11:35 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 19, 3:32 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Looks like we are in for a sequence of Mag 6 quakes:
http://weather.unisys.com/images/sat_sfc_map_loop.html
Hey dude, where's my seismicity?
In decades to come people will be mulling this break in things as
another one of life's gems.
McNeil's Maxim:
When the largest magnitude that breaks a spell is of less than 7 M,
there will tend to be a supercyclone and the quakes following on from
it will tend to be in the region of 5 to 5.5 mag.
And now the storm is abating. Heading for New Zealand, so perhaps a
large one for Macquarie Island or somewhere down there?
We had a nice day or so here while it lasted. So, by and large, I
can't complain. So back to the wet weather I suppose?
Back to normal here with the floods and what not.
Looks like this is where |i came in with this site, too:
http://weather.unisys.com/images/sat_sfc_map_loop.html
We aught to see a strong line of cloud flowing through the US from
southern California to the NE corner.
But that's for later this afternoon and after, with the new spell.
*******
Which seismicity was being reported, meanwhile, as a series of quakes
in the mid to high five range. Then all of a sudden they were
upgraded:
10. Weatherlawyer
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From: Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:13:51 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 22 2008 10:13 pm
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On Jan 22, 9:40 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: And finally as the rivers flood and frosts take over from rain, I
thought I had best mention the Channel coast that is awash with timber
following a ship wreck near Worthing.
An interesting kick in the diabolicals:
5.5 2008/01/22 18:43 WESTERN XIZANG
6.1 2008/01/22 17:14 NIAS REGION, INDONESIA
6.1 2008/01/22 10:49 TONGA
5.1 2008/01/22 09:09 TARAPACA, CHILE
6.0 2008/01/22 07:55 TONGA
5.8 2008/01/21 12:24 SOUTHERN EAST PACIFIC RISE
5.2 2008/01/21 02:49 COMOROS REGION
6.1 2008/01/20 20:26 MOLUCCA SEA
It's been a red letter day in seimographland as well as Wall and
Threadneedle Streets. And all because the arseholes in charge of the
economy wanted to flood the market with junk mortgages.
I hate to think of the burden the federal reserves have to take on
board to float not only the USA but Europe, China and Japan...
Whilst waging a pointless war in two countries that can't lose.
Who is this obscuring wisdom?
He who is overturning the inhabited world and shaking out its good
things.
Here's to interesting times.
*******
Now do try to keep up, you in the back there! |
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:46 am |
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Hardly any rain in Britain since this spell started. Look out for at
least one major earthquake as the series ends. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:57 am |
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On Jan 23, 9:46 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Hardly any rain in Britain since this spell started. Look out for at
least one major earthquake as the series ends.
I know you enjoy the vagaries of language, but since the goal of most
language is communication, I'm really curious about what you mean
'series'? Do you mean a series of lunar phases from, perhaps, full
moon to full moon? Do you mean a series of storms, where each is
separated from the previous by less than a certain time period, like a
day? Or do you simply just string words together in interesting ways
as a form of self-entertainment with no underlying intention to
elucidate or educate?
mirage |
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:09 am |
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On Jan 23, 6:57 pm, mirage <mjohnso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote: On Jan 23, 9:46 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hardly any rain in Britain since this spell started. Look out for at
least one major earthquake as the series ends.
I know you enjoy the vagaries of language, but since the goal of most
language is communication, I'm really curious about what you mean
'series'? Do you mean a series of lunar phases from, perhaps, full
moon to full moon? Do you mean a series of storms, where each is
separated from the previous by less than a certain time period, like a
day? Or do you simply just string words together in interesting ways
as a form of self-entertainment with no underlying intention to
elucidate or educate?
This was sequence of events from the end of November. A series of
lunar phases that were broadly similar.
They all held a degree of difficulty for me as they are or were all
quite unstable spells.
As it turns out they were more of a stable variety than I was alluding
to in that they induced between them a series of singularities most
noticeably, blocking highs.
I did forecast they were a series early on but as usual I can't find
the damned post.
You will just have to plough through the lot of them if you want to
study the technique.
These are they, starting with one that should have produced an
anticyclonic spell over the UK going on to one that is only an half
hour different in its induced harmonic.
Nov 9 23:03 Fine
Nov 17 22:32 Unstable
Nov 24 14:30 Unstable
Dec 1 12:44 Unstable
Dec 9 17:40 Unstable
Dec 17 10:17 Unstable
Dec 24 01:16 Unstable
Dec 31 07:51 Unstable
Jan 8 11:37 Unstable
Jan 15 19:46 Unstable
Jan 22 13:35 Unstable
Jan 30 05:03 Fine.
It is customary for such a long series to run through the following
phase whatever its time. So that the last one here too may be a spell
similar to the above.
But in this case it would appear not as this spell from the 22nd isn't
as wet as it should be. However it is still early days yet.
Broadly speaking a time of phase at 11 or 5 o'clock am or pm induces
fine weather and one at 7 or 1 o'clock induces wet.
Spels at 20 past or 20 to the hour are always a bloody nuisance for
some reason and it all goes to cock when a supert-yphoon or as in one
instance a very powerful storm in the northern latitudes takes place.
The sequence has roughly the same effect as the building of an
earthquake has.
So far as I am able to ascertain, a Mag 6 quake is the equivalent of a
normal hurricane. A Mag 7 to an SF 2 or 3, a Mag 8 to an SF 4 and I
suppose a Mag 9 quake would equal an SF 5.
I don't really have much experience with all that as I have only
recently put the coincidentae together. And of course such events are
rather scarce.
It would help if past data was properly archived but the sites hosting
storm values are not what they might be. Hence I find it easier to
work through them as they happen.
I am not able to discern a great deal of difference from what the
weather should be doing to what it is doing during an SF 1 event but
an SF 3 or 4 can knock the clock back by 3 or 4 hours.
As for the lunar phases per se, I have never been able to see a
significant difference in the percentage of visibility. 0 or 100%
looks the same as either of the 50%s. (I am of course sufficiently
familiar with the changes of the phases so as to be able to tell the
time from them.) |
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:40 am |
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On Jan 23, 1:09 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jan 23, 6:57 pm, mirage <mjohnso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Jan 23, 9:46 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hardly any rain in Britain since this spell started. Look out for at
least one major earthquake as the series ends.
I know you enjoy the vagaries of language, but since the goal of most
language is communication, I'm really curious about what you mean
'series'? Do you mean a series of lunar phases from, perhaps, full
moon to full moon? Do you mean a series of storms, where each is
separated from the previous by less than a certain time period, like a
day? Or do you simply just string words together in interesting ways
as a form of self-entertainment with no underlying intention to
elucidate or educate?
This was sequence of events from the end of November. A series of
lunar phases that were broadly similar.
They all held a degree of difficulty for me as they are or were all
quite unstable spells.
As it turns out they were more of a stable variety than I was alluding
to in that they induced between them a series of singularities most
noticeably, blocking highs.
I did forecast they were a series early on but as usual I can't find
the damned post.
You will just have to plough through the lot of them if you want to
study the technique.
These are they, starting with one that should have produced an
anticyclonic spell over the UK going on to one that is only an half
hour different in its induced harmonic.
Nov 9 23:03 Fine
Nov 17 22:32 Unstable
Nov 24 14:30 Unstable
Dec 1 12:44 Unstable
Dec 9 17:40 Unstable
Dec 17 10:17 Unstable
Dec 24 01:16 Unstable
Dec 31 07:51 Unstable
Jan 8 11:37 Unstable
Jan 15 19:46 Unstable
Jan 22 13:35 Unstable
Jan 30 05:03 Fine.
It is customary for such a long series to run through the following
phase whatever its time. So that the last one here too may be a spell
similar to the above.
But in this case it would appear not as this spell from the 22nd isn't
as wet as it should be. However it is still early days yet.
Broadly speaking a time of phase at 11 or 5 o'clock am or pm induces
fine weather and one at 7 or 1 o'clock induces wet.
Spels at 20 past or 20 to the hour are always a bloody nuisance for
some reason and it all goes to cock when a supert-yphoon or as in one
instance a very powerful storm in the northern latitudes takes place.
The sequence has roughly the same effect as the building of an
earthquake has.
So far as I am able to ascertain, a Mag 6 quake is the equivalent of a
normal hurricane. A Mag 7 to an SF 2 or 3, a Mag 8 to an SF 4 and I
suppose a Mag 9 quake would equal an SF 5.
I don't really have much experience with all that as I have only
recently put the coincidentae together. And of course such events are
rather scarce.
It would help if past data was properly archived but the sites hosting
storm values are not what they might be. Hence I find it easier to
work through them as they happen.
I am not able to discern a great deal of difference from what the
weather should be doing to what it is doing during an SF 1 event but
an SF 3 or 4 can knock the clock back by 3 or 4 hours.
As for the lunar phases per se, I have never been able to see a
significant difference in the percentage of visibility. 0 or 100%
looks the same as either of the 50%s. (I am of course sufficiently
familiar with the changes of the phases so as to be able to tell the
time from them.)
I asked, and I received. Thank you. This really is fascinating,
isn't it?
--mirage |
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:48 pm |
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On Jan 23, 9:40 pm, mirage <mjohnso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote: On Jan 23, 1:09 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 23, 6:57 pm, mirage <mjohnso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Jan 23, 9:46 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hardly any rain in Britain since this spell started. Look out for at
least one major earthquake as the series ends.
I know you enjoy the vagaries of language, but since the goal of most
language is communication, I'm really curious about what you mean
'series'? Do you mean a series of lunar phases from, perhaps, full
moon to full moon? Do you mean a series of storms, where each is
separated from the previous by less than a certain time period, like a
day? Or do you simply just string words together in interesting ways
as a form of self-entertainment with no underlying intention to
elucidate or educate?
This was sequence of events from the end of November. A series of
lunar phases that were broadly similar.
They all held a degree of difficulty for me as they are or were all
quite unstable spells.
As it turns out they were more of a stable variety than I was alluding
to in that they induced between them a series of singularities most
noticeably, blocking highs.
I did forecast they were a series early on but as usual I can't find
the damned post.
You will just have to plough through the lot of them if you want to
study the technique.
These are they, starting with one that should have produced an
anticyclonic spell over the UK going on to one that is only an half
hour different in its induced harmonic.
Nov 9 23:03 Fine
Nov 17 22:32 Unstable
Nov 24 14:30 Unstable
Dec 1 12:44 Unstable
Dec 9 17:40 Unstable
Dec 17 10:17 Unstable
Dec 24 01:16 Unstable
Dec 31 07:51 Unstable
Jan 8 11:37 Unstable
Jan 15 19:46 Unstable
Jan 22 13:35 Unstable
Jan 30 05:03 Fine.
It is customary for such a long series to run through the following
phase whatever its time. So that the last one here too may be a spell
similar to the above.
But in this case it would appear not as this spell from the 22nd isn't
as wet as it should be. However it is still early days yet.
Broadly speaking a time of phase at 11 or 5 o'clock am or pm induces
fine weather and one at 7 or 1 o'clock induces wet.
Spels at 20 past or 20 to the hour are always a bloody nuisance for
some reason and it all goes to cock when a supert-yphoon or as in one
instance a very powerful storm in the northern latitudes takes place.
The sequence has roughly the same effect as the building of an
earthquake has.
So far as I am able to ascertain, a Mag 6 quake is the equivalent of a
normal hurricane. A Mag 7 to an SF 2 or 3, a Mag 8 to an SF 4 and I
suppose a Mag 9 quake would equal an SF 5.
I don't really have much experience with all that as I have only
recently put the coincidentae together. And of course such events are
rather scarce.
It would help if past data was properly archived but the sites hosting
storm values are not what they might be. Hence I find it easier to
work through them as they happen.
I am not able to discern a great deal of difference from what the
weather should be doing to what it is doing during an SF 1 event but
an SF 3 or 4 can knock the clock back by 3 or 4 hours.
As for the lunar phases per se, I have never been able to see a
significant difference in the
effect produced by the
Quote: percentage of visibility. 0 or 100%
looks the same as either of the 50%s. (I am of course sufficiently
familiar with the changes of the phases so as to be able to tell the
time from them.)
Or was
I can't remember when I last spent an evening walking under a moon
looking for signs.
Quote: I asked, and I received. Thank you. This really is fascinating,
isn't it?
Yes.
Have you noticed my other posts about the relationship with Highs over
the USA?
They seem to work in exactly the same way as Lows over the North
Atlantic.
I used to say that when an occluded front held off out over the North
Atlantic (usually over the Mid Atlantic Ridge) when it finally broke,
there would be a large earthquake.
Well the USA thing is similar but the anti-type for it.
Whereas the Low is at sea and broached over the European continental
shelf; the High is on land and leaves the continental shelf.
I would like to see an explanation for that.
I am a little pissed off at the moment, having tried to collate all
the tropical cyclone data from:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/tropicalcyclone/verification.html
and put it into Open Office; Cack.
Someone on their forums told me how to get it to post "as is" by
hitting Paste Special > Unformatted Text > then choosing "text"
instead of Standard in the bottom selection box that opens.
I had about 4 years worth down when I noticed that some of the stuff
had been formatted the way that the coders who wrote Cack wanted it to
be pasted instead of it pasting the way I wanted it to be pasted.
The moral of the story is if you want a decent office suite, you have
to pay for the damned thing.
The stupid bastards don't seem to have heard of the saying WYSIWYG.
Morons! |
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:58 am |
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On Jan 23, 5:46 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hardly any rain in Britain since this spell started. Look out for at
least one major earthquake as the series ends.
Lovely day here. Complete opposite of what it should be, blue skies
well maybe some thin ice up aloft but you get the idea.
Gonna be a big one. I wonder what that High over the mid western
United States is going to do when that happens.
OK let's assume this is not a blip.
The spell has been knocked back what?
3 1/2 hours.
That's the equivalent of a SF 3 or 4 tropical cyclone. So that's a Mag
7.5 or maybe more. You can't get a wetter spell than this one and you
can't get a finer one than for 17:00.
All supposition at the moment but interesting. |
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:29 am |
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:49 pm |
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One small point that I may have failed to mention is that weather
forecasts tend to fail before these large mag quakes occur. So far
things are going well for the powers that be.
Of course as soon as you notice any uncertainty, it would be an idea
to eat out and sleep in a tent.
And check your insurance. |
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On Jan 25, 2:33 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Looks like it will be an hurricane on Sunday:
http://205.85.40.22/jtwc/warnings/sh1308.gif
It never rains but it rains something chronic. Notice the
international nature of these things. I wonder if there is a danger of
wild fires in California again. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:20 am |
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On Jan 25, 11:51 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ah well back to the drawing board.
That high did disappear from the USA but Canada seems to be holding on
to it for some reason. It's dodging its fate off Labrador.
Meanwhile off Madagasgar, Fame is now a cat 2 storm and not that far
away Gula is a cat 1.
So much for my Cat 7+ earthquake.
http://www.gdacs.org/cyclones/
I should have realised when the official weather forecasts were on
the ball. Usually met men and women confess to a measure of
uncertainty when there is very large magnitude quake due.
It's a foolproof indicator.
So what is going on off Canada? It is rare, as far as I know, to have
an anticyclone where a Low should be.
Or is it?
Unless they are a particular of concurrent activity for hurricanes in
the SW Indian Ocean, this sort of thing must occur about 100 times an
year. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:09 am |
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On Jan 27, 5:20 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jan 25, 11:51 pm, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 25, 2:33 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
That High in the middle of the USA is on the move:
http://weather.unisys.com/images/sat_sfc_map_loop.html
And here's a fierce Low to match it:
http://meteonet.nl/aktueel/brackall.htm
Looks like it will be an hurricane on Sunday:
http://205.85.40.22/jtwc/warnings/sh1308.gif
It never rains but it rains something chronic. Notice the
international nature of these things. I wonder if there is a danger of
wild fires in California again.
Ah well back to the drawing board.
That high did disappear from the USA but Canada seems to be holding on
to it for some reason. It's dodging its fate off Labrador.
Meanwhile off Madagasgar, Fame is now a cat 2 storm and not that far
away Gula is a cat 1.
So much for my Cat 7+ earthquake.
http://www.gdacs.org/cyclones/
I should have realised when the official weather forecasts were on
the ball. Usually met men and women confess to a measure of
uncertainty when there is very large magnitude quake due.
It's a foolproof indicator.
So what is going on off Canada? It is rare, as far as I know, to have
an anticyclone where a Low should be.
Or is it?
Unless they are a particular of concurrent activity for hurricanes in
the SW Indian Ocean, this sort of thing must occur about 100 times an
year.
Interesting harmonic with the quake in the Gulf of Guayaquil:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Maps/10/280_-5.php
It is 60 degrees from where that High I was writing about in this
weeks spell, disappearewd of the screen at:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
Both North American sites are some 60 degrees from the Alaskan
Penninsula and Unimak Island. An Eureka moment?
Sadly no, Eureka is 60 degrees from the Gulf of Guyaquil. Unimak
Island is more your 90 degrees sort of a way.
Still; never mind, eh? |
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