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Petra
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:07 pm
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Mike Williams said he wanted to talk about seismology so here's one
everyone can contemplate and comment upon:

Asperities are like teeth on a comb and as they break the fault begins
to move a little at a time until the last one goes and then the big
slip happens.

Select from the following which statements are true:

1. There is crustal deformation as each asperity 2 through 24 break.
2. Asperities 12, 18 and 23 are the only ones that cause deformation.
3. It depends upon which part of the lithospheric crust is breaking.
4. It only happens in the upper crust.
5. Statement #2 was demonstated on the Anatolia Fault.
6. Statement #4 was proven in Parkfield.
7. Statement #3 was negated in the Loma Prieta Earthquake.
8. All of the above statements are true.
9. All of the above statements are false.
10. There is no suitable statement in this list.

Have fun.... Petra
Mike Williams
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:19 am
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"Petra" <petrasrcf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Mike Williams said he wanted to talk about seismology so here's one
everyone can contemplate and comment upon:

Asperities are like teeth on a comb and as they break the fault begins
to move a little at a time until the last one goes and then the big
slip happens.

Select from the following which statements are true:

1. There is crustal deformation as each asperity 2 through 24 break.
2. Asperities 12, 18 and 23 are the only ones that cause deformation.
3. It depends upon which part of the lithospheric crust is breaking.
4. It only happens in the upper crust.
5. Statement #2 was demonstated on the Anatolia Fault.
6. Statement #4 was proven in Parkfield.
7. Statement #3 was negated in the Loma Prieta Earthquake.
8. All of the above statements are true.
9. All of the above statements are false.
10. There is no suitable statement in this list.

Have fun.... Petra





1. There is crustal deformation as each asperity 2 through 24 break.

I appreciate the work that you did attempting to bring some seismology back
into the discussion. It appears that you may have derived these questions
from a single paper on the subject, one which may or may not represent a
consensus. With those caveats, I would denote Question #1 as false (i.e.
unproven). First, I am assuming you are hypothesizing a rupture with greater
than or equal to 24 asperities breaking. And that you are implicitly stating
that asperity #1 does NOT cause crustal deformation. Since asperities cannot
be directly observed, our instrumentation is the limiting factor. Only the
larger asperities will show up when the (synthetic) data are analyzed. It
would seem extremely unlikely that the first asperity to break (likely the
largest and most significant) would cause no deformation, and subsequent
ones would not.

2. Asperities 12, 18 and 23 are the only ones that cause deformation.

False. Assuming you are hypothesizing fault ruptures in general, and not
some specific rupture. That it is false is self-evident.


3. It depends upon which part of the lithospheric crust is breaking.

False. By definition, if an earthquake is detectable by current
seismological instruments, then there is crustal deformation.


4. It only happens in the upper crust.

Not sure what you mean by "it." Crustal deformation? Or crustal deformation
from an earthquake "happen[ing] in the upper crust"? I doubt that we can
detect deformation in anything other than the upper crust.


5. Statement #2 was demonstated on the Anatolia Fault.

Statements 5 through 7 are each clearly false. No single event could provide
proof of any of the referenced statements. Those referenced statements (2, 3
and 4) might be true for only the events cited.


6. Statement #4 was proven in Parkfield.
7. Statement #3 was negated in the Loma Prieta Earthquake.
8. All of the above statements are true.

False.


9. All of the above statements are false.

I'm going to go with True - to the extent they are individually either false
or far from being proven true, or, in the case of #4, too murky to decipher.


10. There is no suitable statement in this list.

True.

Mike Williams

Arroyo Grande, CA USA
Mike Williams
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:13 am
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"Mike Williams" <miklwlms@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"Petra" <petrasrcf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ec308ab4-dc8a-4622-8b40-ee5bcc370afb@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Mike Williams said he wanted to talk about seismology so here's one
everyone can contemplate and comment upon:

Asperities are like teeth on a comb and as they break the fault begins
to move a little at a time until the last one goes and then the big
slip happens.

Select from the following which statements are true:

1. There is crustal deformation as each asperity 2 through 24 break.
2. Asperities 12, 18 and 23 are the only ones that cause deformation.
3. It depends upon which part of the lithospheric crust is breaking.
4. It only happens in the upper crust.
5. Statement #2 was demonstated on the Anatolia Fault.
6. Statement #4 was proven in Parkfield.
7. Statement #3 was negated in the Loma Prieta Earthquake.
8. All of the above statements are true.
9. All of the above statements are false.
10. There is no suitable statement in this list.

Have fun.... Petra





1. There is crustal deformation as each asperity 2 through 24 break.

I appreciate the work that you did attempting to bring some seismology
back into the discussion. It appears that you may have derived these
questions from a single paper on the subject, one which may or may not
represent a consensus. With those caveats, I would denote Question #1 as
false (i.e. unproven). First, I am assuming you are hypothesizing a
rupture with greater than or equal to 24 asperities breaking. And that you
are implicitly stating that asperity #1 does NOT cause crustal
deformation. Since asperities cannot be directly observed, our
instrumentation is the limiting factor. Only the larger asperities will
show up when the (synthetic) data are analyzed. It would seem extremely
unlikely that the first asperity to break (likely the largest and most
significant) would cause no deformation, and subsequent ones would not.

2. Asperities 12, 18 and 23 are the only ones that cause deformation.

False. Assuming you are hypothesizing fault ruptures in general, and not
some specific rupture. That it is false is self-evident.


3. It depends upon which part of the lithospheric crust is breaking.

False. By definition, if an earthquake is detectable by current
seismological instruments, then there is crustal deformation.


4. It only happens in the upper crust.

Not sure what you mean by "it." Crustal deformation? Or crustal
deformation from an earthquake "happen[ing] in the upper crust"? I doubt
that we can detect deformation in anything other than the upper crust.


5. Statement #2 was demonstated on the Anatolia Fault.

Statements 5 through 7 are each clearly false. No single event could
provide proof of any of the referenced statements. Those referenced
statements (2, 3 and 4) might be true for only the events cited.


6. Statement #4 was proven in Parkfield.
7. Statement #3 was negated in the Loma Prieta Earthquake.
8. All of the above statements are true.

False.


9. All of the above statements are false.

I'm going to go with True - to the extent they are individually either
false or far from being proven true, or, in the case of #4, too murky to
decipher.


10. There is no suitable statement in this list.

True.

Mike Williams

Arroyo Grande, CA USA




I left a superfluous "not" at the end of my response to question #1.

Mike Williams
Arroyo Grande, CA USA
Petra
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:44 pm
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On Jan 15, 6:13 am, "Mike Williams" <miklw...@pacbell.net> wrote:
Quote:
"Mike Williams" <miklw...@pacbell.net> wrote in message

news:Zp2jj.39809$Pv2.8727@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...







"Petra" <petras...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ec308ab4-dc8a-4622-8b40-ee5bcc370afb@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Mike Williams said he wanted to talk about seismology so here's one
everyone can contemplate and comment upon:

Asperities are like teeth on a comb and as they break the fault begins
to move a little at a time until the last one goes and then the big
slip happens.

Select from the following which statements are true:

1.  There is crustal deformation as each asperity 2 through 24 break.
2.  Asperities 12, 18 and 23 are the only ones that cause deformation..
3.  It depends upon which part of the lithospheric crust is breaking.
4.  It only happens in the upper crust.
5.  Statement #2 was demonstated on the Anatolia Fault.
6.  Statement #4 was proven in Parkfield.
7.  Statement #3 was negated in the Loma Prieta Earthquake.
8.  All of the above statements are true.
9.  All of the above statements are false.
10.  There is no suitable statement in this list.

Have fun.... Petra

1. There is crustal deformation as each asperity 2 through 24 break.

I appreciate the work that you did attempting to bring some seismology
back into the discussion. It appears that you may have derived these
questions from a single paper on the subject, one which may or may not
represent a consensus. With those caveats, I would denote Question #1 as
false (i.e. unproven). First, I am assuming you are hypothesizing a
rupture with greater than or equal to 24 asperities breaking. And that you
are implicitly stating that asperity #1 does NOT cause crustal
deformation. Since asperities cannot be directly observed, our
instrumentation is the limiting factor. Only the larger asperities will
show up when the (synthetic) data are analyzed. It would seem extremely
unlikely that the first asperity to break (likely the largest and most
significant) would cause no deformation, and subsequent ones would not.

2. Asperities 12, 18 and 23 are the only ones that cause deformation.

False. Assuming you are hypothesizing fault ruptures in general, and not
some specific rupture. That it is false is self-evident.

3. It depends upon which part of the lithospheric crust is breaking.

False. By definition, if an earthquake is detectable by current
seismological instruments, then there is crustal deformation.

4. It only happens in the upper crust.

Not sure what you mean by "it." Crustal deformation? Or crustal
deformation from an earthquake "happen[ing] in the upper crust"? I doubt
that we can detect deformation in anything other than the upper crust.

5. Statement #2 was demonstated on the Anatolia Fault.

Statements 5 through 7 are each clearly false. No single event could
provide proof of any of the referenced statements. Those referenced
statements (2, 3 and 4) might be true for only the events cited.

6. Statement #4 was proven in Parkfield.
7. Statement #3 was negated in the Loma Prieta Earthquake.
8. All of the above statements are true.

False.

9. All of the above statements are false.

I'm going to go with True - to the extent they are individually either
false or far from being proven true, or, in the case of #4, too murky to
decipher.

10. There is no suitable statement in this list.

True.

Mike Williams

Arroyo Grande, CA USA

I left a superfluous "not" at the end of my response to question #1.

Mike Williams
Arroyo Grande, CA USA- Hide quoted text -

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Hi Mike,

I see you put a lot of thought into your answers and I'm going to
leave them for a scientist to grade for you. I'm just sorry that no
one else wanted to participate in this Pop Quiz. Perhaps it's because
I didn't offer a prize. I should have thought about that. Darn.

I take it you haven't read Susan Hough's book, "Earthshaking
Science." It's a good one, just like all of the rest of hers. Also
Agents of Chaos and Assembling California are good as well if you
haven't read them yet.

I'm rather keen on paleoseismology. Is that something you're
interested in?

Petra
 
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