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On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com>
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How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
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Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God. |
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"CE" <jlrisdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote:63486df712]On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
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How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God.
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Those who are blind to the reality of the divine will be blind to all that
is around and in them as well. You speak with the arrogance of one of
Spiritual immature, but it is what I have come to expect from montheists.
Maybe in a few thousand more years you will understand if your faith manages
to mature and stick around that long. Just one final point the Jews from
whom all the montheistic faiths evoloved started out with a God and a
Goddess, just something to think about. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:54 pm |
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On Jun 15, 7:59 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com>
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[quote:7cbca33cb5]"CE" <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
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How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God.
Those who are blind to the reality of the divine will be blind to all that
is around and in them as well. You speak with the arrogance of one of
Spiritual immature, but it is what I have come to expect from montheists.
Maybe in a few thousand more years you will understand if your faith manages
to mature and stick around that long. Just one final point the Jews from
whom all the montheistic faiths evoloved started out with a God and a
Goddess, just something to think about.
[/quote:7cbca33cb5]
Ah, well, there you go. The concept of a goddess is more primative.
Once people matured spiritually, they realized there was no goddess
and came to accept the one true God.
Perhaps in a few thousand more years, you will understand...
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| Christopher Morris |
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:51 am |
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"CE" <jlrisdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote:4ba04f12a9]On Jun 15, 7:59 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
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"CE" <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God.
Those who are blind to the reality of the divine will be blind to all
that
is around and in them as well. You speak with the arrogance of one of
Spiritual immature, but it is what I have come to expect from montheists.
Maybe in a few thousand more years you will understand if your faith
manages
to mature and stick around that long. Just one final point the Jews from
whom all the montheistic faiths evoloved started out with a God and a
Goddess, just something to think about.
Ah, well, there you go. The concept of a goddess is more primative.
Once people matured spiritually, they realized there was no goddess
and came to accept the one true God.
Perhaps in a few thousand more years, you will understand...
:-)
[/quote:4ba04f12a9]
That is not in fact true the reality is much more complex. The Divine is
neither male nor female; it is human perception that requires a gender to
allow the minds to relate to that, which is beyond comprehension. The
Spiritually immature which is what most monotheist are do not grasp that and
insist on there being one God, when there is one Divine with many aspects
that we as people relate. The God and Goddess forms are means to relate to
the Greater Divine force when one gains true Spiritual understanding then
they come to know that all faiths revere the same Divine Source and just use
differing paths to that source. In the journey up the mountain of Spiritual
enlightenment there are many paths some are smoother than others some more
direct, but they all lead to the same Divine Source. It is the monotheists
that being of such a young faith has yet to grasp the fullness of this
universal truth. The destination is what is important not the path you chose
to take. It is my faith that gave birth to your own for it is from the
Pagans that you have begun to gain the insights, but it is your blind
arrogance that keeps you from seeing the true wisdom that lies before you. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:21 pm |
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On Jun 16, 1:51 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com>
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[quote:019ec4bac6]In the journey up the mountain of Spiritual
enlightenment there are many paths some are smoother than others some more
direct, but they all lead to the same Divine Source.
[/quote:019ec4bac6]
<snip>
and ...
[quote:019ec4bac6]it is your blind arrogance that keeps you from seeing the true wisdom
that lies before you
[/quote:019ec4bac6]
Ah, a contradiction.
First, you state that "all [paths] lead to the same Divine Source."
Then, you quickly dismiss one of those very paths by stating the
"blind arrogance [of a monotheist keeps him] from seeing the true
wisdom that lies before you."
[The words in the square brackets are mine.]
So, by your way of reasoning, all faiths lead to the same god - or
goddess - but only if they are essentially the same as your own faith.
In this way, you dismiss with a rhetoric the beliefs of half the
planet.
Of course, you'd have to do something like that because your basic
assumption is clearly incorrect. All faiths do not revere the same
"divine source." The creature worshipped by the satanist is clearly
not for example, the God of Christianity. There are several faiths
which are mutually exclusive from one another. |
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| priorityman@gmail.com |
| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:16 am |
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On Jun 16, 2:54 am, CE <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:314260f797]On Jun 15, 7:59 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
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"CE" <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God.
Those who are blind to the reality of the divine will be blind to all that
is around and in them as well. You speak with the arrogance of one of
Spiritual immature, but it is what I have come to expect from montheists.
Maybe in a few thousand more years you will understand if your faith manages
to mature and stick around that long. Just one final point the Jews from
whom all the montheistic faiths evoloved started out with a God and a
Goddess, just something to think about.
Ah, well, there you go. The concept of a goddess is more primative.
Once people matured spiritually, they realized there was no goddess
and came to accept the one true God.
Perhaps in a few thousand more years, you will understand...
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So strange that a male god made us in his image yet the children come
out of her. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:52 am |
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On Jun 17, 8:16 am, "priority...@gmail.com" <priority...@gmail.com>
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[quote:0756e80862]On Jun 16, 2:54 am, CE <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 15, 7:59 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
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"CE" <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God.
Those who are blind to the reality of the divine will be blind to all that
is around and in them as well. You speak with the arrogance of one of
Spiritual immature, but it is what I have come to expect from montheists.
Maybe in a few thousand more years you will understand if your faith manages
to mature and stick around that long. Just one final point the Jews from
whom all the montheistic faiths evoloved started out with a God and a
Goddess, just something to think about.
Ah, well, there you go. The concept of a goddess is more primative.
Once people matured spiritually, they realized there was no goddess
and came to accept the one true God.
Perhaps in a few thousand more years, you will understand...
:-)- Hide quoted text -
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So strange that a male god made us in his image yet the children come
out of her.
[/quote:0756e80862]
What's strange about it? The verse about us being made in God's image
has nothing to do with our physical appearance. As the New American
Bible explains this verse in its footnotes: "Man is here presented as
the climax of God's creative activity; he resembles God primarily
because of the dominion God gives him over the rest of creation." |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:04 pm |
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On Jun 17, 1:32 pm, kmurphy...@houston.rr.com wrote:
[quote:2a5e1b3336]On 15-Jun-2007, CE <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
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How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God.
One true God in four persons... right?
[/quote:2a5e1b3336]
You made a typo. It's one true God in three persons: the Father; Son;
and Holy Spirit. |
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On Jun 17, 12:04 pm, CE <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:4fe9633e72]On Jun 17, 1:32 pm, kmurphy...@houston.rr.com wrote:
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On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God.
One true God in four persons... right?
You made a typo. It's one true God in three persons: the Father; Son;
and Holy Spirit.- Hide quoted text -
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Yup! Three in one. Meat, potatoes and a green veg make one dinner!
As I recall when baptized by John the Baptist, Jesus stood in the
water whilst perching (Holy Spirit) on His own head and calling down
from heaven His (God) approbation of Himself. And for his fourth
trick....Resurrection?
Z |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:54 am |
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"CE" <jlrisdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote:248c83a461]On Jun 16, 1:51 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
In the journey up the mountain of Spiritual
enlightenment there are many paths some are smoother than others some
more
direct, but they all lead to the same Divine Source.
snip
and ...
it is your blind arrogance that keeps you from seeing the true wisdom
that lies before you
Ah, a contradiction.
[/quote:248c83a461]
Not all wisdom is before you either you choose to see it or you allow
yourself to be forever blind.
[quote:248c83a461]First, you state that "all [paths] lead to the same Divine Source."
Then, you quickly dismiss one of those very paths by stating the
"blind arrogance [of a monotheist keeps him] from seeing the true
wisdom that lies before you."
[/quote:248c83a461]
You allow blind arrogance to stop you from seeing that each path is equal,
it is not dismissing your path to point that out to you.
[quote:248c83a461][The words in the square brackets are mine.]
So, by your way of reasoning, all faiths lead to the same god - or
goddess - but only if they are essentially the same as your own faith.
In this way, you dismiss with a rhetoric the beliefs of half the
planet.
[/quote:248c83a461]
No that is not what I said each path leads to the Ultimate Divine some have
differing markers along the ways, some are more direct, some are smoother
and some rougher, but all are the path of the indiviual. It is you that
dismissses all paths that are not your own as being less advanced.
[quote:248c83a461]Of course, you'd have to do something like that because your basic
assumption is clearly incorrect. All faiths do not revere the same
"divine source." The creature worshipped by the satanist is clearly
not for example, the God of Christianity. There are several faiths
which are mutually exclusive from one another.
[/quote:248c83a461]
This my point about the immaturity of your Spiritual understanding you
choose to remain blind to the Divine Wisdom and it will make the journey
impossible till you get passed your arrogance. As a point of fact just as a
seperate note Satanists do not worship any God whatsoever, most of them do
not even believe in your God Satan, but believe instead in the human ability
to do whatever they want without thought to consequence. It is more a
rejection of the rigid Christian ideals than anything else. |
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[quote:c51fa8f4fe]On Jun 17, 8:16 am, "priority...@gmail.com" <priority...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Jun 16, 2:54 am, CE <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 15, 7:59 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
"CE" <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God.
Those who are blind to the reality of the divine will be blind to all
that
is around and in them as well. You speak with the arrogance of one of
Spiritual immature, but it is what I have come to expect from
montheists.
Maybe in a few thousand more years you will understand if your faith
manages
to mature and stick around that long. Just one final point the Jews
from
whom all the montheistic faiths evoloved started out with a God and a
Goddess, just something to think about.
Ah, well, there you go. The concept of a goddess is more primative.
Once people matured spiritually, they realized there was no goddess
and came to accept the one true God.
Perhaps in a few thousand more years, you will understand...
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So strange that a male god made us in his image yet the children come
out of her.
What's strange about it? The verse about us being made in God's image
has nothing to do with our physical appearance. As the New American
Bible explains this verse in its footnotes: "Man is here presented as
the climax of God's creative activity; he resembles God primarily
because of the dominion God gives him over the rest of creation."
[/quote:c51fa8f4fe]
What is funny is you do not understand it is Man who made God in his own
image and not the other way around. For humans to grasp the Divine something
beyond mortal comprehension humans created a God form they could relate to
and in so doing lost some of the mystery that is the Divine. |
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On Jun 18, 6:57 am, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com>
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[quote:c4ceee9701]"CE" <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 17, 8:16 am, "priority...@gmail.com" <priority...@gmail.com
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On Jun 16, 2:54 am, CE <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 15, 7:59 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
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"CE" <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
wrote:
How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God.
Those who are blind to the reality of the divine will be blind to all
that
is around and in them as well. You speak with the arrogance of one of
Spiritual immature, but it is what I have come to expect from
montheists.
Maybe in a few thousand more years you will understand if your faith
manages
to mature and stick around that long. Just one final point the Jews
from
whom all the montheistic faiths evoloved started out with a God and a
Goddess, just something to think about.
Ah, well, there you go. The concept of a goddess is more primative.
Once people matured spiritually, they realized there was no goddess
and came to accept the one true God.
Perhaps in a few thousand more years, you will understand...
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So strange that a male god made us in his image yet the children come
out of her.
What's strange about it? The verse about us being made in God's image
has nothing to do with our physical appearance. As the New American
Bible explains this verse in its footnotes: "Man is here presented as
the climax of God's creative activity; he resembles God primarily
because of the dominion God gives him over the rest of creation."
What is funny is you do not understand it is Man who made God in his own
image and not the other way around.
[/quote:c4ceee9701]
Is this just your own assumption stemming from your own bias or do you
have any evidence that mankind created God instead of God creating
man?
[quote:c4ceee9701]For humans to grasp the Divine something
beyond mortal comprehension humans created a God form they could relate to
and in so doing lost some of the mystery that is the Divine.
[/quote:c4ceee9701]
Again, there is no evidence of this. It's just your own speculation. |
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On Jun 15, 1:24 pm, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
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How very true we seek to return to the Goddess ..... <snip
Except that there is no goddess.
There is only one true God.
One true God in four persons... right?
You made a typo. It's one true God in three persons: the Father; Son;
and Holy Spirit.
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And Ubermensch makes four persons.
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It's not possible to turn a ho' into a housewife but by the same measure, it
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"CE" <jlrisdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote:6749d1ed02]On Jun 18, 6:57 am, "Christopher Morris" <Drac...@roadrunner.com
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"CE" <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What is funny is you do not understand it is Man who made God in his own
image and not the other way around.
Is this just your own assumption stemming from your own bias or do you
have any evidence that mankind created God instead of God creating
man?
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Yeah it is called reality and history and even a little intelectual honesty.
We all need to relate to the Divine but the Divine is unknowable and beyond
comprhension so man created gods that they could relate to, it is the
evolution of religion.
[quote:6749d1ed02]For humans to grasp the Divine something
beyond mortal comprehension humans created a God form they could relate
to
and in so doing lost some of the mystery that is the Divine.
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[quote:6749d1ed02]Again, there is no evidence of this. It's just your own speculation.
Based in my research and that of countess others.[/quote:6749d1ed02] |
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