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 Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:29 pm |
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I just spent the last half hour calling around to the various welding
supply houses in the area, trying to locate a new cooling fan for an
old Lincoln AC225 buzz box... NOT A SINGLE ONE ANSWERED THE PHONE!!!
Suffice it to say I'm less than happy with the situation, and these
are probably the same places that whine about losing so much business
to the Internet! Hey morons, the solution is simple: ANSWER THE DAMN
PHONE!
Anyway, does anybody know a good online resource where I can go and
purchase the parts I need without having to deal with human beings
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| Keith Marshall |
| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:51 pm |
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Quote: Anyway, does anybody know a good online resource where I can go and
purchase the parts I need without having to deal with human beings
that don't answer the phone?
I've had a tough time finding parts for Miller and Lincoln welders online.
AirGas used to list them but they don't seem to any more. You didn't say
where you're located but there's a local dealer in Charlotte, NC that I can
get to order parts for me but he doesn't give me any kind of a deal. :-(
In this case I tried a Google search using the part number of the fan I'm
guessing you need which is M13539-1 and surprisingly enough it looks like
Summit Racing sells it.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=LCN-M13539-1&N=700+400162+115&autoview=sku
Unfortunately they want what is probably Lincoln's full retail price for it
which is way more than any fan that size should cost (plus they show an
estimated ship date of 2/9!!) so I'd look for an alternate, maybe from
Surplus Center http://www.surpluscenter.com or even a local appliance
dealer.
Best Regards,
Keith Marshall
tooladdict@progressivelogic.com
"I'm not grown up enough to be so old!"
<mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
Quote: I just spent the last half hour calling around to the various welding
supply houses in the area, trying to locate a new cooling fan for an
old Lincoln AC225 buzz box... NOT A SINGLE ONE ANSWERED THE PHONE!!!
Suffice it to say I'm less than happy with the situation, and these
are probably the same places that whine about losing so much business
to the Internet! Hey morons, the solution is simple: ANSWER THE DAMN
PHONE!
Anyway, does anybody know a good online resource where I can go and
purchase the parts I need without having to deal with human beings
that don't answer the phone?
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| Grant Erwin |
| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:53 pm |
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mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Quote: I just spent the last half hour calling around to the various welding
supply houses in the area, trying to locate a new cooling fan for an
old Lincoln AC225 buzz box... NOT A SINGLE ONE ANSWERED THE PHONE!!!
Suffice it to say I'm less than happy with the situation, and these
are probably the same places that whine about losing so much business
to the Internet! Hey morons, the solution is simple: ANSWER THE DAMN
PHONE!
Anyway, does anybody know a good online resource where I can go and
purchase the parts I need without having to deal with human beings
that don't answer the phone?
If the fan is still rotating but making excessive noise, try squirting the
shaft with a little oil so hte oil will run down the shaft inside the motor
to quiet it down (might need to tilt the welder). Also try tightening up the
bolts holding the fan down, if they get a little loose the fan can make a
real racket. Both of those have worked for me.
Buzzbox fans aren't anything special, if yours fails you can pull it and take
it to Grainger and they'll likely be able to match it up. Or try digikey.com
or other online electronics vendor (www.newark.com etc).
GWE |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:27 pm |
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Just looked up the fan on Summit's website... OUCH! I'll buy a new
buzzbox from Lowe's before I spend that much.
I've got some big fans out of old industrial computers laying around.
Maybe I can find one that's AC to wire up. |
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| Grant Erwin |
| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:37 pm |
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mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Quote: Just looked up the fan on Summit's website... OUCH! I'll buy a new
buzzbox from Lowe's before I spend that much.
I've got some big fans out of old industrial computers laying around.
Maybe I can find one that's AC to wire up.
Note: it doesn't have to be a 220V fan, you can wire the fan between L1 and
neutral to get an ersatz 110V, not too kosher but works fine.
Around here you can pick up clean AC/DC buzzboxes for $150 quite often,
occasionally for $100. I don't see any reason to buy new. I like the older
Miller Thunderbolts, the ones with detachable leads. They store much more cleanly.
GWE |
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| Pete T |
| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:01 pm |
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Grant, a better solution if you don't have a 240V fan is to use two smaller
120volt fans that are the same wired in series across the 240volt
connection. Try a couple of bathroom fan motors, they are really cheap.
Pete
"Grant Erwin" <grant@NOSPAMkirkland.net> wrote in message
news:12rsc33e22bibdc@corp.supernews.com...
Quote: mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Just looked up the fan on Summit's website... OUCH! I'll buy a new
buzzbox from Lowe's before I spend that much.
I've got some big fans out of old industrial computers laying around.
Maybe I can find one that's AC to wire up.
Note: it doesn't have to be a 220V fan, you can wire the fan between L1
and neutral to get an ersatz 110V, not too kosher but works fine.
Around here you can pick up clean AC/DC buzzboxes for $150 quite often,
occasionally for $100. I don't see any reason to buy new. I like the older
Miller Thunderbolts, the ones with detachable leads. They store much more
cleanly.
GWE |
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| Ignoramus5566 |
| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:04 pm |
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Can you simply measure dimensions of those fans and their nameplate
data. Replacing a fan is usually a trivial, expect to spend $20 or
so. Plenty of replacement fans available. I sold about 85 Comair
Rotron Caravelle fans a while ago. Those were 110v models.
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On 29 Jan 2007 09:27:43 -0800, mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com <mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
Quote: Just looked up the fan on Summit's website... OUCH! I'll buy a new
buzzbox from Lowe's before I spend that much.
I've got some big fans out of old industrial computers laying around.
Maybe I can find one that's AC to wire up.
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| MES |
| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:41 pm |
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Even in larger machines the fan is usually 110V
"Ignoramus5566" <ignoramus5566@NOSPAM.5566.invalid> wrote in message
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Quote: Can you simply measure dimensions of those fans and their nameplate
data. Replacing a fan is usually a trivial, expect to spend $20 or
so. Plenty of replacement fans available. I sold about 85 Comair
Rotron Caravelle fans a while ago. Those were 110v models.
i
On 29 Jan 2007 09:27:43 -0800, mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com
mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
Just looked up the fan on Summit's website... OUCH! I'll buy a new
buzzbox from Lowe's before I spend that much.
I've got some big fans out of old industrial computers laying around.
Maybe I can find one that's AC to wire up.
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| Gunner |
| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:45 am |
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On 29 Jan 2007 08:29:30 -0800, mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Quote: I just spent the last half hour calling around to the various welding
supply houses in the area, trying to locate a new cooling fan for an
old Lincoln AC225 buzz box... NOT A SINGLE ONE ANSWERED THE PHONE!!!
Suffice it to say I'm less than happy with the situation, and these
are probably the same places that whine about losing so much business
to the Internet! Hey morons, the solution is simple: ANSWER THE DAMN
PHONE!
Anyway, does anybody know a good online resource where I can go and
purchase the parts I need without having to deal with human beings
that don't answer the phone?
Is the fan 220 or 110vts? They are common as dirt. And nearly as cheap
from the surplus places.
Gunner
"Deep in her heart, every moslem woman yearns to show us her tits"
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| Gunner |
| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:48 am |
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:37:18 -0800, Grant Erwin
<grant@NOSPAMkirkland.net> wrote:
Quote: mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Just looked up the fan on Summit's website... OUCH! I'll buy a new
buzzbox from Lowe's before I spend that much.
I've got some big fans out of old industrial computers laying around.
Maybe I can find one that's AC to wire up.
Note: it doesn't have to be a 220V fan, you can wire the fan between L1 and
neutral to get an ersatz 110V, not too kosher but works fine.
Around here you can pick up clean AC/DC buzzboxes for $150 quite often,
occasionally for $100. I don't see any reason to buy new. I like the older
Miller Thunderbolts, the ones with detachable leads. They store much more cleanly.
GWE
I still have that Lincoln Idealarc 250 (ac only) if anyone wants it.
$200obo, on the factory cart.
Works great, single phase.
140 amps 100% duty cycle, 250 amps 40%
Gunner
"Deep in her heart, every moslem woman yearns to show us her tits"
John Griffin |
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| Ed ke6bnl |
| Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:22 am |
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On Jan 29, 8:29 am, mkirs...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Quote: I just spent the last half hour calling around to the various welding
supply houses in the area, trying to locate a new cooling fan for an
old Lincoln AC225 buzz box... NOT A SINGLE ONE ANSWERED THE PHONE!!!
Suffice it to say I'm less than happy with the situation, and these
are probably the same places that whine about losing so much business
to the Internet! Hey morons, the solution is simple: ANSWER THE DAMN
PHONE!
Anyway, does anybody know a good online resource where I can go and
purchase the parts I need without having to deal with human beings
that don't answer the phone?
I picked up a large 220volt muffin fan to replace the fan in an old
buz box and worked great and quiter then the original. at the time I
got it at a surplus store. Ed ke6bnl |
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