RUSSIAN ASTROLOGER SUES NASA, TRIES TO STOP DEEP IMPACT MISSION
MosNews
http://www.mosnews.com/feature/2005/04/19/deepimpact.shtml
Published: Apr 24, 2005
Anna Arutunyan

Remember Deep Impact — that global disaster movie from the 1990’s when
the world’s finest astronauts embarked on a suicide mission to save
mankind from a comet heading straight for Earth? Now, imagine if the
producers introduced a new twist to the plot: besides the comet, NASA
is pitted against a Russian astrologist who sues the space agency
because destroying a comet would irrevocably harm her “system of
spiritual values”.

Well, we’re not in the direct trajectory of a comet (not yet anyway),
but a Deep Impact mission is underway, with a NASA spacecraft
scheduled to collide with the Tempel-1 comet on July 4, perhaps
blasting it to smithereens. That’s right, it’s Independence Day.

Now, the last thing NASA expected was a lawsuit from Russia.

But Russian astrologist Marina Bai gave it a try, and, according to
her lawyer Alexander Molokhov, it looks like she may just pull it off.
In a lawsuit she filed last month with the Presnensky district court
in Moscow, Bai is demanding that NASA call off its $311 million
operation, with the spacecraft already in its cruise phase. She also
wants 8.7 billion rubles (the ruble equivalent of the entire cost of
the mission) in compensation for moral damages.

“The actions of NASA infringe upon my system of spiritual and life
values, in particular on the values of every element of creation, upon
the unacceptability of barbarically interfering with the natural life
of the universe, and the violation of the natural balance of the
Universe,” Bai said in her claim.

NASA successfully launched its Deep Impact spacecraft — comprised of a
“fly-by” spacecraft and a smaller “impactor” carrying some 350
kilograms of copper — on Jan. 12 with the aim of studying the nature
of comets. The spacecraft’s “impactor” is expected to form a large
crater enabling scientists to look inside the comet. The scientific
objectives of the mission, according to NASA, seem innocent enough:
just measure the crater and examine the composition of its interior.
But then again, there’s always a larger agenda lurking in the
background — what would we do in the unlikely even of an emergency?

Bai is not the only astrologist worried about messing with the
Universe.

“Imagine leaving Moscow, then returning to find everything’s changed,”
says Vladimir Portnov, a physicist and a professional astrologist. “Of
course, everyday people will feel the implications of destroying a
comet.”

According to Portnov, even something as “minor” as comets play a role
in creating humanity’s psychic environment. By wantonly destroying a
comet, NASA will inevitably disrupt that environment — with the most
likely result being mass anxiety.

But can anyone stop NASA on these grounds? Bai’s initial lawsuit was
dismissed by the Presnensky court, but the Moscow City Court took up
the appeal and will rule following a hearing scheduled for May 6. And
lawyer Alexander Molokhov is convinced the case will move further.

“I have no doubt that the Moscow City Court will cancel the [previous
dismissal],” Molokhov told MosNews.

According to Russian law, a Russian citizen can file a claim with a
Russian court against a foreign organization that has representation
in Russia. And NASA, with an office in Moscow, is certainly eligible
as a plaintiff. “If a Houston court can examine a case involving a
Russian company [Yukos — MosNews], why can’t a Russian file a claim
against an American agency with a Russian court?”

But is there any chance in calling off the mission and getting a hefty
$311 million? Molokhov hopes the case will resonate widely in the
media. “There is a law against actions that can lead to damage or
death,” and in Russia, the case is being filed on those grounds. Also,
Molokhov plans to take the claim to the United States. In fact, he
says, there are a number of scientists there who would be glad to sue
NASA.

Indeed, the consequences of destroying a comet may include anything
from an asteroid shower to disruption to radio waves.

“I am not a scientist,” Molokhov says,

“but experts say the impact
could disrupt the comet’s plasma trail, which could have an effect on
satellite communications.”

So, what does NASA think of the challenge? So far, Molokhov says that
the NASA Moscow Liaison Office has made no statements whatsoever
regarding Bai’s claim.

Meanwhile, Dolores Beasley, at the Deep Impact mission headquarters in
Washington, was very surprised to hear of the case. In a phone call,
she said she was not aware of any claims against NASA originating in
the States, and that generally the mission was “very popular”.

The Russian Space Agency, meanwhile, has also kept quiet about the
mission. A man who answered at the press office said he was “not
competent to answer any questions” regarding his agency’s position
over the NASA mission. Molokhov said that isn’t surprising — the
agency gets some financing from NASA and is not keen on criticism.

Expert opinion ranges from comments saying the mission is an innocent
endeavor, to outright lambasting. “I think such vandalism cannot be
justified even in the case of the asteroid-comet danger that people
talk so much about,” Nikolai Bochkarev of the Russian Academy for
Natural Science told the Itogi magazine.

So, what would an astrologist say about destroying a comet to save
humanity?

“I think it’s acceptable to try,” Vladimir Portnov says. Then he
smiles: “But I think it’s impossible.”

I hope they win and nasa has to terminate the mission.
we shouldn't be messing with things we know little or nothing about.

9p temple 1 slingshots between jupiter and mars this impact is going to do 2
things decrease it's mass and increase it's velocity. I suspect that nasa is
trying to get the comet to impact with mars adding water to the planet which
would be good for mars. problem is that by increasing the velocity of the
comet it is more likely it won't complete it's slingshot it'll reach escape
velocity to soon and be hurtled in an unexpected direction most likely right
into earths path. if by chance it's not a immediate responce by impact or
the unexpected direction thing it may still do it years down the line as
soon as the fall of 2010.

I hope they win and nasa has to terminate the mission.
we shouldn't be messing with things we know little or nothing about.

9p temple 1 slingshots between jupiter and mars this impact is going
to do 2
things decrease it's mass and increase it's velocity. I suspect that
nasa is
trying to get the comet to impact with mars adding water to the
planet which
would be good for mars. problem is that by increasing the velocity of
the
comet it is more likely it won't complete it's slingshot it'll reach
escape
velocity to soon and be hurtled in an unexpected direction most
likely right
into earths path.

the unexpected direction thing it may still do it years down the line
as
soon as the fall of 2010.

Shame on you nasa!

Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:09:08 GMT, "ring_theory" <ring_theory@yahoo.com
licked the point of a #2 Yellow Pencil, and wrote:

I hope they win and nasa has to terminate the mission.
we shouldn't be messing with things we know little or nothing about.

9p temple 1 slingshots between jupiter and mars this impact is going to
do 2
things decrease it's mass and increase it's velocity. I suspect that nasa
is
trying to get the comet to impact with mars adding water to the planet
which
would be good for mars. problem is that by increasing the velocity of the
comet it is more likely it won't complete it's slingshot it'll reach
escape
velocity to soon and be hurtled in an unexpected direction most likely
right
into earths path. if by chance it's not a immediate responce by impact or
the unexpected direction thing it may still do it years down the line as
soon as the fall of 2010.

And your degree in orbital mechanics is from...?

ring_theory wrote:
I hope they win and nasa has to terminate the mission.
we shouldn't be messing with things we know little or nothing about.

HAAAAAH, HAH, HAH, HAH, HAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH...!!! Tell me, What is the
reason that we explore in the first place? It's because we know little
or nothing. Wisdom comes with experience. You would have us wallow
indefinitely in enforced naivete'. How naive of you.

9p temple 1 slingshots between jupiter and mars this impact is going
to do 2
things decrease it's mass and increase it's velocity. I suspect that
nasa is
trying to get the comet to impact with mars adding water to the
planet which
would be good for mars. problem is that by increasing the velocity of
the
comet it is more likely it won't complete it's slingshot it'll reach
escape
velocity to soon and be hurtled in an unexpected direction most
likely right
into earths path.

MOST likely? HAAAAAH, HAH, HAH, HAH, HAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH...!!! Well,
you show me the orbital calculations you've performed to justify this
assertion, then we'll talk.

if by chance it's not a immediate responce by impact or
the unexpected direction thing it may still do it years down the line
as
soon as the fall of 2010.

Shame on you nasa!

Shame on YOU, for wallowing in your own naivete'. Shame all over
you. Here's a towel.

-Mark Martin

A child could see that with the right resources. The internet has
vast
resources one could soak up knowlege unabated.

Other than that, I spin rings. which is the closest thing to
reproducing the
orbital mechanism empirically known to date.

The simple act of spinning a ring challenges the perception of
perpetual motion, unity/over-unity, free-energy, and anti gravity.
In the
same regards the act also puts fact to quantum predictions, finishes
Maxwell's works, Applies faradays work's under ideal conditions, and
is the
vision einstein couldn't see. Puts certainty to Heisenberg's
Uncertainty
Principle. Upholds the laws of thermodynamics creating ideal
conditions for
conservation of energy to be applied in a mechanism.

In essence I'm the only "orbital mechanic" *actually* laying hands on
the
orbital. So untill quantum physics can figure a way to make a
microscopic
pit crew for the orbital, were going to have to rely on macroscopic
observations.

I guess I'm a skeptic's dream subject.
Step up! let's get it on.

Ring

"Mark Martin" <qed100@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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ring_theory wrote:
I hope they win and nasa has to terminate the mission.
we shouldn't be messing with things we know little or nothing about.

HAAAAAH, HAH, HAH, HAH, HAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH...!!! Tell me, What is the
reason that we explore in the first place? It's because we know little
or nothing. Wisdom comes with experience. You would have us wallow
indefinitely in enforced naivete'. How naive of you.

No. There is a less destructive approach to discovery. It's called lets go
visit it. aka send a probe to land on it and ride piggyback collecting data.

There is a vast difference between blowing chunks out of a naturally
occuring anomolie and observing it emperically by collecting data over a
period of time.

9p temple 1 slingshots between jupiter and mars this impact is going
to do 2
things decrease it's mass and increase it's velocity. I suspect that
nasa is
trying to get the comet to impact with mars adding water to the
planet which
would be good for mars. problem is that by increasing the velocity of
the
comet it is more likely it won't complete it's slingshot it'll reach
escape
velocity to soon and be hurtled in an unexpected direction most
likely right
into earths path.

MOST likely? HAAAAAH, HAH, HAH, HAH, HAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH...!!! Well,
you show me the orbital calculations you've performed to justify this
assertion, then we'll talk.

google it yourself orbital calculator

if by chance it's not a immediate responce by impact or
the unexpected direction thing it may still do it years down the line
as
soon as the fall of 2010.

Shame on you nasa!

Shame on YOU, for wallowing in your own naivete'. Shame all over
you. Here's a towel.

-Mark Martin


There is no shame to my game and It's not "naivete'". you better come up
with something different your arguement is mearly tripe.

Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:09:08 GMT, "ring_theory" <ring_theory@yahoo.com
licked the point of a #2 Yellow Pencil, and wrote:

I hope they win and nasa has to terminate the mission.
we shouldn't be messing with things we know little or nothing about.

9p temple 1 slingshots between jupiter and mars this impact is going
to do 2
things decrease it's mass and increase it's velocity. I suspect that
nasa is
trying to get the comet to impact with mars adding water to the
planet which
would be good for mars. problem is that by increasing the velocity
of the
comet it is more likely it won't complete it's slingshot it'll reach
escape
velocity to soon and be hurtled in an unexpected direction most
likely right
into earths path. if by chance it's not a immediate responce by
impact or
the unexpected direction thing it may still do it years down the
line as
soon as the fall of 2010.

And your degree in orbital mechanics is from...?

The Inquisition probably. Remember.

She's a fuckwit then. It's the only word I can think of.

She needs to sue Jupiter, because THAT planet is going to give Comet
Tempel1 a push in a few more years, as it has in the past. The reason
Tempel1 was picked includes it 2:1 resonance with Jupiter.

Indeed, the consequences of destroying a comet may include anything
from an asteroid shower to disruption to radio waves.

"I am not a scientist," Molokhov says,

That should be in block capitals, 48 point.

I hope they win and nasa has to terminate the mission.
we shouldn't be messing with things we know little or nothing about.

I hope they win and nasa has to terminate the mission.
we shouldn't be messing with things we know little or nothing about.

I hope they win and nasa has to terminate the mission.

we shouldn't be messing with things we know little or nothing
about.

9p temple 1 slingshots between jupiter and mars this impact is
going to do 2 things decrease it's mass and increase it's
velocity. I suspect that nasa is trying to get the comet to
impact with mars adding water to the planet which would be
good for mars. problem is that by increasing the velocity of
the comet it is more likely it won't complete it's slingshot
it'll reach escape velocity to soon and be hurtled in an
unexpected direction most likely right into earths path. if by
chance it's not a immediate responce by impact or the
unexpected direction thing it may still do it years down the
line as soon as the fall of 2010.

Shame on you nasa!

"Widdershins" <sinistre@liripipe.com> wrote in message
news:027n61ds98jjq72v2t9qpjg70bok47v721@4ax.com...
Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:09:08 GMT, "ring_theory" <ring_theory@yahoo.com
licked the point of a #2 Yellow Pencil, and wrote:

problem is that by increasing the velocity of the
comet it is more likely it won't complete it's slingshot it'll reach
escape
velocity to soon and be hurtled in an unexpected direction most likely
right
into earths path. if by chance it's not a immediate responce by impact or
the unexpected direction thing it may still do it years down the line as
soon as the fall of 2010.

And your degree in orbital mechanics is from...?

A child could see that with the right resources. The internet has vast
resources one could soak up knowlege unabated.