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| Ron Hardin |
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Ron Hardin wrote:
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John Atkinson wrote:
That is, the use of "try and", "go and", etc as alternatives for "try to",
"go to" applies *only* when the finite verb has exactly the same form as the
infinitive.
``He went and did it'' is common.
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http://www.dictionary.com
8.Informal. Used as an intensifier when joined by and to a coordinate verb: She went
and complained to Personnel.
They mention ``coodinate verb,'' is my interest.
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| Peter T. Daniels |
| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:13 am |
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Ron Hardin wrote:
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Ron Hardin wrote:
John Atkinson wrote:
That is, the use of "try and", "go and", etc as alternatives for "try to",
"go to" applies *only* when the finite verb has exactly the same form as the
infinitive.
``He went and did it'' is common.
[/quote:a66a40d745]
Likewise "Now you've gone and done it!"
[quote:a66a40d745]http://www.dictionary.com
8.Informal. Used as an intensifier when joined by and to a coordinate verb: She went
and complained to Personnel.
They mention ``coodinate verb,'' is my interest.
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Parse that!
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| Ron Hardin |
| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:53 am |
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Peter T. Daniels wrote:
[quote:463f6c8fc5]``He went and did it'' is common.
Likewise "Now you've gone and done it!"
http://www.dictionary.com
8.Informal. Used as an intensifier when joined by and to a coordinate verb: She went
and complained to Personnel.
They mention ``coodinate verb,'' is my interest.
Parse that!
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Maybe it's the past tense of ``going to.''
The comma indicates an inversion : My interest is : they mention ``coordinate verb.''
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| John Atkinson |
| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:06 pm |
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"Ron Hardin" <rhhardin@mindspring.com> wrote...
[quote:1d50393232]John Atkinson wrote:
That is, the use of "try and", "go and", etc as alternatives for "try
to",
"go to" applies *only* when the finite verb has exactly the same form as
the
infinitive.
``He went and did it'' is common.
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You're right, it is common.
However "He went and did it" can never (in my dialect) be used as an
alternative to "He went to do it", but only as in
"I told him it'd get him into trouble, but he went and did it anyway."
OTOH. "I'll go and do it" can be used to replace "I'll go to do it." with no
change in meaning.
John. |
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