1. Having a working immune system to fight off real life diseases.

2. Being able to attract a non-CR spouse. (I am aware that some people
don't want to marry, but let's pose this issue as it applies to the
majority of people).

3. Being able to sexually satisfy a non-CR spouse.

4. Being able to sire and/or gestate a healthy baby.

5. Have enough energy to raise the baby to young adulthood.

6. Have enough energy to work a typical job, to commute to work, clean
house etc.

7. [more controversial] being able to fight off another human, to
survive a few weeks as a refugee, etc etc.

It seems to me that a life prolonging regimen that does not meet those
challenges, is "unsuitable for real life". I would like to know if
proponents of CR can address those specific challenges.

[CR obstacles]
...
2. Being able to attract a non-CR spouse.

...
3. Being able to sexually satisfy a non-CR spouse.
...

5. Have enough energy to raise the baby to young adulthood.

Like many here, I am interested in a question whether CR can be
beneficial to us, living mortal humans.

I am very impressed by the effects of CR on short lived laboratory
animals such as mice.

I cannot help but note that in the wild, mice who live in fields have
to survive winter in their holes, they have to be quick enough to
escape predators, they have to fight diseases, they have to survive
hunger etc.

So, if you take a wild type mouse and let it live in the wild, and
somehow miraculously put it on CR while letting it experience real
life, the CR mouse may well not live beyond the first winter.

This brings me to ask a few questions pertaining to us humans. A
successful human life involves several challenges for which the lab
animals were not evaluated or could not replicate.

These challenges include:

1. Having a working immune system to fight off real life diseases.

2. Being able to attract a non-CR spouse. (I am aware that some people
don't want to marry, but let's pose this issue as it applies to the
majority of people).

3. Being able to sexually satisfy a non-CR spouse.

4. Being able to sire and/or gestate a healthy baby.

5. Have enough energy to raise the baby to young adulthood.

6. Have enough energy to work a typical job, to commute to work, clean
house etc.

7. [more controversial] being able to fight off another human, to
survive a few weeks as a refugee, etc etc.

So, even if we assume that CR could work on humans in the equivalent
of lab conditions, the real question is whether it will work to
overcome the challenges that I listed, and perhaps ones that I forgot
about.

It seems to me that a life prolonging regimen that does not meet those
challenges, is "unsuitable for real life". I would like to know if
proponents of CR can address those specific challenges.

Any thoughts?

I am interested in the answer because I do not live in lab conditions.

i

I don't think any of your concerns would be a problem the way most people
actually practice CR, unless you want to run marathons or attract a woman
who doesn't like skinny people.

In my case, I have a BMI right now of 19 and would like to get it to 18 or
so in the next few months. I have been working out and running 2-3 times a
week for almost 25 years. While I am quite thin by most people's standards,
I am also quite muscular -- not "big" but with a lot of muscle definition.
I don't starve myself by any means but I do select the foods I eat very
carefully. I think that is the key -- first, change your diet to get
refined foods and concentrated calories out of your diet and then work on
reducing the amount of food you eat.

Yesterday, a friend asked me if I was not worried that practicing even
moderate CR would not dangerously lower the amount of fiber in my diet.
What a laugh! As I told her, I probably eat (and disgorge) 5X as much fiber
in a day as the typical American because I eat so much fruit, salad, sweet
potatoes and other high-fiber, unrefined foods. No sugar, refined foods or
concentrated calories. Supplemented a bit, as well. It was clear to me
that she was thinking of CR in terms of eating very little of a typical
concentrated-calorie diet, rather than eating a fairly substantial amount
(in my view) or low-calorie, healthy food.

First, change your food. Get the hamburgers and pizzas and ice
cream out of your diet, forever. Get off the sugar, then get off the
fake sugar. Get those HABITS out of your system. Develop new
habits of eating good food instead of bad food. THEN, reduce your
food intake until you get to the weight / BMI you are looking to get
to.

Lowered energy to do the things you want to do -- assuming you are not
planning on being a professional marathon runner or load trucks for a
living -- will not be a problem.

mack
austin

"Ignoramus26248" <ignoramus26248@NOSPAM.26248.invalid> wrote in message
news:bt879k$i6c$1@pita.alt.net...
Like many here, I am interested in a question whether CR can be
beneficial to us, living mortal humans.

I am very impressed by the effects of CR on short lived laboratory
animals such as mice.

I cannot help but note that in the wild, mice who live in fields have
to survive winter in their holes, they have to be quick enough to
escape predators, they have to fight diseases, they have to survive
hunger etc.

So, if you take a wild type mouse and let it live in the wild, and
somehow miraculously put it on CR while letting it experience real
life, the CR mouse may well not live beyond the first winter.

This brings me to ask a few questions pertaining to us humans. A
successful human life involves several challenges for which the lab
animals were not evaluated or could not replicate.

These challenges include:

1. Having a working immune system to fight off real life diseases.

2. Being able to attract a non-CR spouse. (I am aware that some people
don't want to marry, but let's pose this issue as it applies to the
majority of people).

3. Being able to sexually satisfy a non-CR spouse.

4. Being able to sire and/or gestate a healthy baby.

5. Have enough energy to raise the baby to young adulthood.

6. Have enough energy to work a typical job, to commute to work, clean
house etc.

7. [more controversial] being able to fight off another human, to
survive a few weeks as a refugee, etc etc.

So, even if we assume that CR could work on humans in the equivalent
of lab conditions, the real question is whether it will work to
overcome the challenges that I listed, and perhaps ones that I forgot
about.

It seems to me that a life prolonging regimen that does not meet those
challenges, is "unsuitable for real life". I would like to know if
proponents of CR can address those specific challenges.

Any thoughts?

I am interested in the answer because I do not live in lab conditions.

i

Ignoramus26248 <ignoramus26248@nospam.26248.invalid> wrote or quoted:

[CR obstacles]
...
2. Being able to attract a non-CR spouse.

This will really depend on a host of individual variables. If the
dubiously resuméd hunchback Richard III could be seductive, so surely
can many a batchelor CR practitioner, or batchelorette.

...
3. Being able to sexually satisfy a non-CR spouse.
...

This shouldn't be a concern in this age of prescription somas (Viagra,
Levitra, Cialis), assuming one can afford the price.

5. Have enough energy to raise the baby to young adulthood.

Nor should this be a problem, unless one is already a basket case.

Otherwise, I'd agree with Tim Tyler's comments for items 1, 4, 6, and
7.
Richard Schulman
Remove antispamming "-xyz" for email reply

I have already done it. No junk food and no sweeteners. Otherwise I
eat more or less what I want, with emphasis on adding low calorie
vegetables. I am not on a CR program, however I believe that there are
clear benefits to being moderately lean and muscular, so for 2004 my
plan is to lose 10-15 lbs of fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle.

http://igor.chudov.com/weightloss/

Lowered energy to do the things you want to do -- assuming you are not
planning on being a professional marathon runner or load trucks for a
living -- will not be a problem.

Thanks, that directly answers some of my questions.

How is your immunity, do you catch a lot of colds?

i

mack
austin

"Ignoramus26248" <ignoramus26248@NOSPAM.26248.invalid> wrote in message
news:bt879k$i6c$1@pita.alt.net...
Like many here, I am interested in a question whether CR can be
beneficial to us, living mortal humans.

I am very impressed by the effects of CR on short lived laboratory
animals such as mice.

I cannot help but note that in the wild, mice who live in fields have
to survive winter in their holes, they have to be quick enough to
escape predators, they have to fight diseases, they have to survive
hunger etc.

So, if you take a wild type mouse and let it live in the wild, and
somehow miraculously put it on CR while letting it experience real
life, the CR mouse may well not live beyond the first winter.

This brings me to ask a few questions pertaining to us humans. A
successful human life involves several challenges for which the lab
animals were not evaluated or could not replicate.

These challenges include:

1. Having a working immune system to fight off real life diseases.

2. Being able to attract a non-CR spouse. (I am aware that some people
don't want to marry, but let's pose this issue as it applies to the
majority of people).

3. Being able to sexually satisfy a non-CR spouse.

4. Being able to sire and/or gestate a healthy baby.

5. Have enough energy to raise the baby to young adulthood.

6. Have enough energy to work a typical job, to commute to work, clean
house etc.

7. [more controversial] being able to fight off another human, to
survive a few weeks as a refugee, etc etc.

So, even if we assume that CR could work on humans in the equivalent
of lab conditions, the real question is whether it will work to
overcome the challenges that I listed, and perhaps ones that I forgot
about.

It seems to me that a life prolonging regimen that does not meet those
challenges, is "unsuitable for real life". I would like to know if
proponents of CR can address those specific challenges.

Any thoughts?

I am interested in the answer because I do not live in lab conditions.

i

"Ignoramus18675" <ignoramus18675@NOSPAM.18675.invalid> wrote

I have already done it. No junk food and no sweeteners. Otherwise I
eat more or less what I want, with emphasis on adding low calorie
vegetables. I am not on a CR program, however I believe that there are
clear benefits to being moderately lean and muscular, so for 2004 my
plan is to lose 10-15 lbs of fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle.

I don't think there is a "CR program" as such. If there is, I am not on it
either.

But I am very strict with myself in terms of the foods I eat and I
don't make exceptions for holidays, etc. Consequently, if I "fall off the
wagon" I do it by overeating good food, which is not so bad. If I do begin
to compulsively eat too much of one of the foods I eat, then I may have to
ban it from the house for awhile until I get over it, but that does not
happen very often.

For me, there are rules, strategies and tricks to get around the
evolved, hard-wired command to eat while the eating is good, before
something bad happens to take all the food away. The way I see it,
the first step is to change the foods you eat and get the sugars,
high-glycemic foods, refined grains, fatty foods -- most of the
concentrated calories -- out of the diet completely and get out of
the habit of eating them.

No, I don't get many colds. Actually, knock on wood, I have never gotten as
many colds as most people seem to and I have not had the flu since about
1972 or so. But it seems to me that CR substantially heightens my
resistance to them and I get even fewer. This year, so far, I have had one
cold (sore throat > crummy feeling > cough) that was very slight and lasted
only about 36 hours before it was completely gone.

mack
austin

http://igor.chudov.com/weightloss/

Lowered energy to do the things you want to do -- assuming you are not
planning on being a professional marathon runner or load trucks for a
living -- will not be a problem.

Thanks, that directly answers some of my questions.

How is your immunity, do you catch a lot of colds?

i

mack
austin

"Ignoramus26248" <ignoramus26248@NOSPAM.26248.invalid> wrote in message
news:bt879k$i6c$1@pita.alt.net...
Like many here, I am interested in a question whether CR can be
beneficial to us, living mortal humans.

I am very impressed by the effects of CR on short lived laboratory
animals such as mice.

I cannot help but note that in the wild, mice who live in fields have
to survive winter in their holes, they have to be quick enough to
escape predators, they have to fight diseases, they have to survive
hunger etc.

So, if you take a wild type mouse and let it live in the wild, and
somehow miraculously put it on CR while letting it experience real
life, the CR mouse may well not live beyond the first winter.

This brings me to ask a few questions pertaining to us humans. A
successful human life involves several challenges for which the lab
animals were not evaluated or could not replicate.

These challenges include:

1. Having a working immune system to fight off real life diseases.

2. Being able to attract a non-CR spouse. (I am aware that some people
don't want to marry, but let's pose this issue as it applies to the
majority of people).

3. Being able to sexually satisfy a non-CR spouse.

4. Being able to sire and/or gestate a healthy baby.

5. Have enough energy to raise the baby to young adulthood.

6. Have enough energy to work a typical job, to commute to work, clean
house etc.

7. [more controversial] being able to fight off another human, to
survive a few weeks as a refugee, etc etc.

So, even if we assume that CR could work on humans in the equivalent
of lab conditions, the real question is whether it will work to
overcome the challenges that I listed, and perhaps ones that I forgot
about.

It seems to me that a life prolonging regimen that does not meet those
challenges, is "unsuitable for real life". I would like to know if
proponents of CR can address those specific challenges.

Any thoughts?

I am interested in the answer because I do not live in lab conditions.

i

In article <HJ2Kb.4452$4z.695@fe2.texas.rr.com>, Mack wrote:
"Ignoramus18675" <ignoramus18675@NOSPAM.18675.invalid> wrote

I have already done it. No junk food and no sweeteners. Otherwise I
eat more or less what I want, with emphasis on adding low calorie
vegetables. I am not on a CR program, however I believe that there are
clear benefits to being moderately lean and muscular, so for 2004 my
plan is to lose 10-15 lbs of fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle.

I don't think there is a "CR program" as such. If there is, I am not on
it
either.

What I mean is, I do not eat low calorie. I eat almost as much as
necessary to maintain my BMI of 24. I plan to lose 10-15 lbs of fat
and gain 5 lbs of muscle this year.

I do, however, plan to become a little slimmer over the next few
years, to not eat junk, and to eat a lot of raw vegs. I am still very
much a meat eater, but I prefer to eat more vegetables and stuff
instead of things like potatoes.

But I am very strict with myself in terms of the foods I eat and I
don't make exceptions for holidays, etc. Consequently, if I "fall off
the
wagon" I do it by overeating good food, which is not so bad. If I do
begin
to compulsively eat too much of one of the foods I eat, then I may have
to
ban it from the house for awhile until I get over it, but that does not
happen very often.

I no longer consider sugar and junk food food.

For me, there are rules, strategies and tricks to get around the
evolved, hard-wired command to eat while the eating is good, before
something bad happens to take all the food away. The way I see it,
the first step is to change the foods you eat and get the sugars,
high-glycemic foods, refined grains, fatty foods -- most of the
concentrated calories -- out of the diet completely and get out of
the habit of eating them.

I am still eating a lot of fat (as a % of calories).

I see nothing wrong with a piece of butter or whatever.

No, I don't get many colds. Actually, knock on wood, I have never
gotten as
many colds as most people seem to and I have not had the flu since about
1972 or so. But it seems to me that CR substantially heightens my
resistance to them and I get even fewer. This year, so far, I have had
one
cold (sore throat > crummy feeling > cough) that was very slight and
lasted
only about 36 hours before it was completely gone.

Thanks, that's useful to know. I also have not been sick yet since I
started dieting last summer.

i

mack
austin

http://igor.chudov.com/weightloss/

Lowered energy to do the things you want to do -- assuming you are
not
planning on being a professional marathon runner or load trucks for a
living -- will not be a problem.

Thanks, that directly answers some of my questions.

How is your immunity, do you catch a lot of colds?

i

mack
austin

"Ignoramus26248" <ignoramus26248@NOSPAM.26248.invalid> wrote in
message
news:bt879k$i6c$1@pita.alt.net...
Like many here, I am interested in a question whether CR can be
beneficial to us, living mortal humans.

I am very impressed by the effects of CR on short lived laboratory
animals such as mice.

I cannot help but note that in the wild, mice who live in fields
have
to survive winter in their holes, they have to be quick enough to
escape predators, they have to fight diseases, they have to survive
hunger etc.

So, if you take a wild type mouse and let it live in the wild, and
somehow miraculously put it on CR while letting it experience real
life, the CR mouse may well not live beyond the first winter.

This brings me to ask a few questions pertaining to us humans. A
successful human life involves several challenges for which the lab
animals were not evaluated or could not replicate.

These challenges include:

1. Having a working immune system to fight off real life diseases.

2. Being able to attract a non-CR spouse. (I am aware that some
people
don't want to marry, but let's pose this issue as it applies to the
majority of people).

3. Being able to sexually satisfy a non-CR spouse.

4. Being able to sire and/or gestate a healthy baby.

5. Have enough energy to raise the baby to young adulthood.

6. Have enough energy to work a typical job, to commute to work,
clean
house etc.

7. [more controversial] being able to fight off another human, to
survive a few weeks as a refugee, etc etc.

So, even if we assume that CR could work on humans in the equivalent
of lab conditions, the real question is whether it will work to
overcome the challenges that I listed, and perhaps ones that I
forgot
about.

It seems to me that a life prolonging regimen that does not meet
those
challenges, is "unsuitable for real life". I would like to know if
proponents of CR can address those specific challenges.

Any thoughts?

I am interested in the answer because I do not live in lab
conditions.

i

Personally, I think a BMI of 24 is pretty high, unless you are coming from
a
lifetime of being really fat. The highest mine has been in at least 15
years was 122. 40 years ago, though, it was up around 30 to 33 for a few
years there.

But, apparently, from all the research, slimming down from really fat to
just plump works about as well as going from normal to really thin. I
feel
very good, and seem to be very healthy at a BMI of 19 and I think an 18
would work just fine for me, although it may be a while before I get there
to test it. That would probably be about it, though. Someone said that
most fashion models have a BMI of around 18, just to give you an idea of
what that looks like. I have more muscle than most of them do, though.

Once you change the foods you eat then, if you are still taking in more
calories than you want, you do have to start cutting down on quantities.
I
do that by mostly by limiting myself to certain amounts of food at certain
times of day. One bowl at breakfast. One fruit snack mid-morning. Hone
the serving size, as necessary, of my typical sweet potato with added
salad
bar ingredients for lunch, an early dinner of salad and chicken or fish
and
then no eating at all between that dinner and breakfast the next morning.
A
Rolaids late at night, if necessary, kills hunger nicely.

Limit at all times to only one plate of food, not heaped unnecessarily,
then
leave the table. You have to keep in mind that our, mostly unconscious,
hard-wired compunction to eat everything in sight while it's available is
constantly looking for and finding ways around the rules that our
conscious
minds have set. So, it can be a constant struggle and there is nothing
unusual about that. What is abnormal is not us but an environment where
there is so much food everywhere. Not the worst problem we could have, of
course, by a long shot.

mack
austin


"Ignoramus18675" <ignoramus18675@NOSPAM.18675.invalid> wrote in message
news:btan0r$ppe$5@pita.alt.net...
In article <HJ2Kb.4452$4z.695@fe2.texas.rr.com>, Mack wrote:
"Ignoramus18675" <ignoramus18675@NOSPAM.18675.invalid> wrote

I have already done it. No junk food and no sweeteners. Otherwise I
eat more or less what I want, with emphasis on adding low calorie
vegetables. I am not on a CR program, however I believe that there
are
clear benefits to being moderately lean and muscular, so for 2004 my
plan is to lose 10-15 lbs of fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle.

I don't think there is a "CR program" as such. If there is, I am not
on
it
either.

What I mean is, I do not eat low calorie. I eat almost as much as
necessary to maintain my BMI of 24. I plan to lose 10-15 lbs of fat
and gain 5 lbs of muscle this year.

I do, however, plan to become a little slimmer over the next few
years, to not eat junk, and to eat a lot of raw vegs. I am still very
much a meat eater, but I prefer to eat more vegetables and stuff
instead of things like potatoes.

But I am very strict with myself in terms of the foods I eat and I
don't make exceptions for holidays, etc. Consequently, if I "fall off
the
wagon" I do it by overeating good food, which is not so bad. If I do
begin
to compulsively eat too much of one of the foods I eat, then I may
have
to
ban it from the house for awhile until I get over it, but that does
not
happen very often.

I no longer consider sugar and junk food food.

For me, there are rules, strategies and tricks to get around the
evolved, hard-wired command to eat while the eating is good, before
something bad happens to take all the food away. The way I see it,
the first step is to change the foods you eat and get the sugars,
high-glycemic foods, refined grains, fatty foods -- most of the
concentrated calories -- out of the diet completely and get out of
the habit of eating them.

I am still eating a lot of fat (as a % of calories).

I see nothing wrong with a piece of butter or whatever.

No, I don't get many colds. Actually, knock on wood, I have never
gotten as
many colds as most people seem to and I have not had the flu since
about
1972 or so. But it seems to me that CR substantially heightens my
resistance to them and I get even fewer. This year, so far, I have
had
one
cold (sore throat > crummy feeling > cough) that was very slight and
lasted
only about 36 hours before it was completely gone.

Thanks, that's useful to know. I also have not been sick yet since I
started dieting last summer.

i

mack
austin

http://igor.chudov.com/weightloss/

Lowered energy to do the things you want to do -- assuming you are
not
planning on being a professional marathon runner or load trucks for
a
living -- will not be a problem.

Thanks, that directly answers some of my questions.

How is your immunity, do you catch a lot of colds?

i

mack
austin

"Ignoramus26248" <ignoramus26248@NOSPAM.26248.invalid> wrote in
message
news:bt879k$i6c$1@pita.alt.net...
Like many here, I am interested in a question whether CR can be
beneficial to us, living mortal humans.

I am very impressed by the effects of CR on short lived laboratory
animals such as mice.

I cannot help but note that in the wild, mice who live in fields
have
to survive winter in their holes, they have to be quick enough to
escape predators, they have to fight diseases, they have to
survive
hunger etc.

So, if you take a wild type mouse and let it live in the wild, and
somehow miraculously put it on CR while letting it experience real
life, the CR mouse may well not live beyond the first winter.

This brings me to ask a few questions pertaining to us humans. A
successful human life involves several challenges for which the
lab
animals were not evaluated or could not replicate.

These challenges include:

1. Having a working immune system to fight off real life diseases.

2. Being able to attract a non-CR spouse. (I am aware that some
people
don't want to marry, but let's pose this issue as it applies to
the
majority of people).

3. Being able to sexually satisfy a non-CR spouse.

4. Being able to sire and/or gestate a healthy baby.

5. Have enough energy to raise the baby to young adulthood.

6. Have enough energy to work a typical job, to commute to work,
clean
house etc.

7. [more controversial] being able to fight off another human, to
survive a few weeks as a refugee, etc etc.

So, even if we assume that CR could work on humans in the
equivalent
of lab conditions, the real question is whether it will work to
overcome the challenges that I listed, and perhaps ones that I
forgot
about.

It seems to me that a life prolonging regimen that does not meet
those
challenges, is "unsuitable for real life". I would like to know if
proponents of CR can address those specific challenges.

Any thoughts?

I am interested in the answer because I do not live in lab
conditions.

i

Personally, I think a BMI of 24 is pretty high, unless you are coming from a
lifetime of being really fat. The highest mine has been in at least 15
years was 122.

40 years ago, though, it was up around 30 to 33 for a few
years there.

But, apparently, from all the research, slimming down from really
fat to just plump works about as well as going from normal to really
thin. I feel very good, and seem to be very healthy at a BMI of 19
and I think an 18 would work just fine for me, although it may be a
while before I get there to test it. That would probably be about
it, though. Someone said that most fashion models have a BMI of
around 18, just to give you an idea of what that looks like. I have
more muscle than most of them do, though.

Limit at all times to only one plate of food, not heaped unnecessarily, then
leave the table. You have to keep in mind that our, mostly unconscious,
hard-wired compunction to eat everything in sight while it's available is
constantly looking for and finding ways around the rules that our conscious
minds have set. So, it can be a constant struggle and there is nothing
unusual about that. What is abnormal is not us but an environment where
there is so much food everywhere. Not the worst problem we could have, of
course, by a long shot.

Thanks. I tried fasting last week. Did not eat anything for a
day. Given some research by MP Mattson about how fasting had
beneficial effect on aging, I am give it some consideration also.

"Ignoramus32269" <ignoramus32269@NOSPAM.32269.invalid> wrote

Thanks. I tried fasting last week. Did not eat anything for a
day. Given some research by MP Mattson about how fasting had
beneficial effect on aging, I am give it some consideration also.

I have often read, over the years, very good things about fasting, at least
in moderation. Walford speaks of it highly as a once-a-week way to keep the
calories down. I have only tried it once or twice, many years ago. (What a
great time and place to live where we have the CHOICE whether or not to
"try" fasting!)

I found that, after a couple of days, the mental effects were so
dramatic that this aspect of it became the predominant part of the
experience. Walking along the street (I lived in NYC at that time)
I thought that I could see plainly the actual emotion felt by each
and every person I encountered, no matter what "mask" they put on.

(The emotion I saw -- or thought I saw -- was usually fear, btw, but
there were always some who appeared to me to be completely happy.)
Anyway, I think it probably depends on your personal psychology &
physiology whether this is the way to go.

For me, fasting is just too extreme. As such, it does not help me to change
my habits, as changing what food / how much food I eat on a day-to-day basis
does. The way I see it, life is largely a matter of habits. Bad ones, good
ones. Habit management is right up there in terms of Important Things to
Do.

"Ignoramus32269" <ignoramus32269@NOSPAM.32269.invalid> wrote

Thanks. I tried fasting last week. Did not eat anything for a
day. Given some research by MP Mattson about how fasting had
beneficial effect on aging, I am give it some consideration also.

I have often read, over the years, very good things about fasting,
at least in moderation. [...]

Mack <McKinnonExtractDropDelete@advertisinghelp.com> wrote or quoted:
"Ignoramus32269" <ignoramus32269@NOSPAM.32269.invalid> wrote

Thanks. I tried fasting last week. Did not eat anything for a
day. Given some research by MP Mattson about how fasting had
beneficial effect on aging, I am give it some consideration also.

I have often read, over the years, very good things about fasting,
at least in moderation. [...]

I suspect interesting healing and life-extension developments lie
in the future of the "fasting" field.

The investigations into the physiology of the fasting state /do/ seem to
suggest that CR's effect on health could be turned up several more notches
- *if* ways can be found to do it safely and sustainably.