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Lester Zick
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:24 pm
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Science vs Scientism

These definitions are taken from the Random House Dictionary of the
English Language, College Edition, 1968. They represent my
understanding and application of the terms science and scientism and
are specifically directed at those who regard empiricism as the only
definitive methodology for science in general.

science. 1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of
facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of
general laws. 2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material
world. 3. systematized knowledge of any kind. 4. any skill that
reflects a precise application of facts or principles.

Scientism. 1. (Often Disparaging). the attitudes, practices, etc.
regarded as characteristics of scientists. 2. advocacy of the
application of principles derived from the natural sciences to other
disciplines including the humanities and the social sciences. 3.
scientific or pseudo-scientific language.


Regards - Lester
|-|erc
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:11 am
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"Lester Zick" <lesterDELzick@worldnet.att.net> wrote
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Science vs Scientism

These definitions are taken from the Random House Dictionary of the
English Language, College Edition, 1968. They represent my
understanding and application of the terms science and scientism and
are specifically directed at those who regard empiricism as the only
definitive methodology for science in general.

science. 1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of
facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of
general laws. 2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material
world. 3. systematized knowledge of any kind. 4. any skill that
reflects a precise application of facts or principles.

Scientism. 1. (Often Disparaging). the attitudes, practices, etc.
regarded as characteristics of scientists. 2. advocacy of the
application of principles derived from the natural sciences to other
disciplines including the humanities and the social sciences. 3.
scientific or pseudo-scientific language.



Scientism is empirisicm, knowing only what you see.

Herc

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Alex Green
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:20 am
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"Lester Zick" <lesterDELzick@worldnet.att.net> wrote
Science vs Scientism

These definitions are taken from the Random House Dictionary of the
English Language, College Edition, 1968. They represent my
understanding and application of the terms science and scientism and
are specifically directed at those who regard empiricism as the only
definitive methodology for science in general.

science. 1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of
facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of
general laws. 2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material
world. 3. systematized knowledge of any kind. 4. any skill that
reflects a precise application of facts or principles.

Scientism. 1. (Often Disparaging). the attitudes, practices, etc.
regarded as characteristics of scientists. 2. advocacy of the
application of principles derived from the natural sciences to other
disciplines including the humanities and the social sciences. 3.
scientific or pseudo-scientific language.



Scientism is empirisicm, knowing only what you see.

[Alex]
Empiricism is not scientism.

Empiricism: the practice of relying on observation and experiment
especially in the natural sciences
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=empiricism
Empiricism:
a. Employment of empirical methods, as in science.
b. An empirical conclusion.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=empiricism

"Knowing only what you see" is gross oversimplification and is not
equivalent to "scientism", which is a set of attitudes. The only
certain knowledge is experience in the extended present but
"knowledge" need not be 100% certain, 99.9999999% will do for most of
us! Empiricism is about how knowledge is validated see:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~lka/conr.htm

Best Wishes

Alex Green
samitroy
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:15 pm
Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 1
hi, could some one explain what 'post empiricism' is in simple terms, with examples. thanks.
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