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bigc

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:11 pm

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Hello

In a reserach project, I want to pump fog from a fog machine into a
large box, then diffuse the fog as fast as possible. I hope there
exist certain simple (non-toxic) chemical that can eliminate the fog
very fast. My fog fluid is water based. How can I do that?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Regards,
Zhen

dlzc.aol@com (formerly)

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:39 pm

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Dear bigc:

"bigc" <bigc_cn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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A small theromonuclear device that either:
- decreases the pressure (after the shock wave)
- increases the temperature
- both
kind of like:
http://www.jedi.se/roligt/images/ia-1984guns.jpg

David A. Smith

Duncan Wood

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:56 pm

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On 19 Dec 2003 16:11:09 -0800, bigc <bigc_cn@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Well a large fan will diffuse it quickly .We need a little bit more of a
clue about what you're doing really as diffusing it without affecting the
airflow is nontrivial

David Lee

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:43 pm

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Rosco make a fog fluid that's designed to disperse quickly - IIRC it's
called 'Stage &Studio' but check out their website.

David

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Clive Mitchell

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:59 pm

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In message <20aa3c9a.0312191611.2fe51bd6@posting.google.com>, bigc
<bigc_cn@yahoo.com> writes

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In a reserach project, I want to pump fog from a fog machine into a
large box, then diffuse the fog as fast as possible. I hope there
exist certain simple (non-toxic) chemical that can eliminate the fog
very fast. My fog fluid is water based. How can I do that?

Are you sure you don't want to "disperse" the fog very fast?

If you want to fill the box with fog, then have it disappear very
quickly, then you might be best either venting the box with a fan, or
perhaps a fully enclosed air cycling system with a filter could take the
vapour out of the air.

If you were using particulate smoke as generated by combustion, then
it's possible to use a powerful ioniser to cause rapid settlement of the
smoke by electrostatically clumping the particles. I don't know if that
works for vapour.

--
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

bigc

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:05 pm

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Dear bigc:

"bigc" <bigc_cn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hello

In a reserach project, I want to pump fog from a fog machine into a
large box, then diffuse the fog as fast as possible. I hope there
exist certain simple (non-toxic) chemical that can eliminate the fog
very fast. My fog fluid is water based. How can I do that?

A small theromonuclear device that either:
- decreases the pressure (after the shock wave)
- increases the temperature
- both
kind of like:
http://www.jedi.se/roligt/images/ia-1984guns.jpg

David A. Smith

Dear David

Thanks for your suggestions. I just got a Shauvet fog machine. And I
tried to
pop the fog through some hot object (electric iron). It seem
increasing the
temperature can not eliminate the fog.

I hope there exists some non-toxic fluid. When I spray it to the fog,
the fog will dispare very soon. Is it possible?

Regards,

Zhen

N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:32 pm

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Dear bigc:

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Dear bigc:

"bigc" <bigc_cn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hello

In a reserach project, I want to pump fog from a fog machine into a
large box, then diffuse the fog as fast as possible. I hope there
exist certain simple (non-toxic) chemical that can eliminate the fog
very fast. My fog fluid is water based. How can I do that?

A small theromonuclear device that either:
- decreases the pressure (after the shock wave)
- increases the temperature
- both
kind of like:
http://www.jedi.se/roligt/images/ia-1984guns.jpg

Dear David

Thanks for your suggestions. I just got a Shauvet fog machine. And I
tried to
pop the fog through some hot object (electric iron). It seem
increasing the
temperature can not eliminate the fog.

I hope there exists some non-toxic fluid. When I spray it to the fog,
the fog will dispare very soon. Is it possible?

This is the right place, if it is possible.

I don't know of anything, as the "fog" machines of which I am aware
actually make smoke. Had it been real fog, a sonic shock could make it
disappear (like the cannonfire in the picture).

Have you tried spraying a mist of water?

David A. Smith

Duncan Wood

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:14 pm

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On 6 Jan 2004 20:05:06 -0800, bigc <bigc_cn@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Dear bigc:

"bigc" <bigc_cn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hello

In a reserach project, I want to pump fog from a fog machine into a
large box, then diffuse the fog as fast as possible. I hope there
exist certain simple (non-toxic) chemical that can eliminate the fog
very fast. My fog fluid is water based. How can I do that?

A small theromonuclear device that either:
- decreases the pressure (after the shock wave)
- increases the temperature
- both
kind of like:
http://www.jedi.se/roligt/images/ia-1984guns.jpg

David A. Smith

Dear David

Thanks for your suggestions. I just got a Shauvet fog machine. And I
tried to
pop the fog through some hot object (electric iron). It seem
increasing the
temperature can not eliminate the fog.

I hope there exists some non-toxic fluid. When I spray it to the fog,
the fog will dispare very soon. Is it possible?

Regards,

Zhen

Well you could try blast chilling it Smile

John Dziurlaj

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:15 pm

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Have you tried dry ice machines? That stuff is ground hugging and
diffuses pretty fast. unfortantly there is a double jeapordy, the
stuff has Carbon Dioxide in it (toxic) and requires a different
machines. Check out http://www.rosco.com/ if your still interested.

John W. Kennedy

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:03 pm

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John Dziurlaj wrote:

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"Toxic" is a bit dramatic. However, some people do have a nasty
reaction to it, e.g., Mira Furlan, when they were filming the episode
"Atonement" of "Babylon 5".

--
John W. Kennedy
"But now is a new thing which is very old--
that the rich make themselves richer and not poorer,
which is the true Gospel, for the poor's sake."
-- Charles Williams. "Judgement at Chelmsford"

Charles R. Kaiser

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:02 pm

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John W. Kennedy wrote:

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"Toxic" is a bit dramatic. However, some people do have a nasty
reaction to it, e.g., Mira Furlan, when they were filming the episode
"Atonement" of "Babylon 5".

Nope, "Toxic" is exactly the right description for CO2 gas. You might
want to take a gander at an MSDS for it sometime:

http://www.uigi.com/MSDS_gaseous_CO2.html

Note especially:

"Carbon Dioxide is a powerful cerebral dilator. At concentrations
between 2 and 10%, Carbon Dioxide can cause nausea, dizziness, headache,
mental confusion, increased blood pressure and respiratory rate. Above
8% nausea and vomiting appear. Above 10%, suffocation and death can
occur within minutes."

--
Charles R. Kaiser HOKC - Godtar - http://www.godtar.com
"There's two dates in time that they'll carve on your stone
And everyone knows what they mean. What's more important
Is the time that is known in that little dash in between"

Aaron Krochmal

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:04 am

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"John W. Kennedy"

Quote:

"Toxic" is a bit dramatic. However, some people do have a nasty
reaction to it, e.g., Mira Furlan, when they were filming the episode
"Atonement" of "Babylon 5".

John, that is so remarkable and interesting. Never would I have
suspected that watching soap operas can be so educative. You must have
a fascinating life.

N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:49 am

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Dear Aaron Krochmal:

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"John W. Kennedy"

"Toxic" is a bit dramatic. However, some people do have a nasty
reaction to it, e.g., Mira Furlan, when they were filming the episode
"Atonement" of "Babylon 5".

John, that is so remarkable and interesting. Never would I have
suspected that watching soap operas can be so educative. You must have
a fascinating life.

They put cattle on a conveyor belt, that causes them to go down into a pit,
and then up out the other side. The pit is filled with CO2. It is a
humane way of "knocking" them. Not sure how many places do it this way, or
if it was just a experiment...

David A. Smith

Mike Painter

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:31 pm

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Dear Aaron Krochmal:

"Aaron Krochmal" <krochmal@sociologist.com> wrote in message
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"John W. Kennedy"

"Toxic" is a bit dramatic. However, some people do have a nasty
reaction to it, e.g., Mira Furlan, when they were filming the episode
"Atonement" of "Babylon 5".

John, that is so remarkable and interesting. Never would I have
suspected that watching soap operas can be so educative. You must have
a fascinating life.

They put cattle on a conveyor belt, that causes them to go down into a
pit,
and then up out the other side. The pit is filled with CO2. It is a
humane way of "knocking" them. Not sure how many places do it this way,
or
if it was just a experiment...

CO2 is *not* a humane way. Take a hit from a CO2 extinguisher or hold your
breath until you feel you will pass out.
Almost any other inert gas would work much better since you would purge the
CO2 and not get O2.
That's a painless way to die, as many who have used O2 rebreathers found
out.

donald j haarmann

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:12 pm

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"bigc" <bigc_cn@yahoo.com>

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How 'bout a charged metal plate to attract the droplets?

--
donald j haarmann
------------------------
Professor Edgeworth of All Soul's avoided
conversational English, persistently using words
and phrases one expects to meet only in books.
One evening, Lawrence [the famous Lawrence of
Arabia] returned from a visit to London, and
Edgeworth met him at the gate. "Was it very
caliginous in the metropolis?"

"Some what caliginous, but not altogether
inspissated," Lawrence replied gravely.

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