They make space clumpy. They seem to have been created and shaped a
long time ago. They could be a big argument against a "single" big
bang. Stars come out of clouds,and that means these was not one big
cloud. If blackholes are at the core of galaxies they must have
developed there first. Why do astronomers tell us stars are forming
in the outer fringe of the galaxies? What makes that the rule in this
spacetime? Seems star making has slowed down by a million % Never
heard of a new galaxy forming. Well this is another mystery. The
forming of galaxies. Bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
They make space clumpy. They seem to have been created and shaped a
long time ago. They could be a big argument against a "single" big
bang. Stars come out of clouds,and that means these was not one big
cloud. If blackholes are at the core of galaxies they must have
developed there first. Why do astronomers tell us stars are forming
in the outer fringe of the galaxies? What makes that the rule in this
spacetime? Seems star making has slowed down by a million % Never
heard of a new galaxy forming. Well this is another mystery. The
forming of galaxies. Bert

Apparently ('cos I wasn't there) the Big Bang wasn't completely unifom so
eventually matter clumped together in places.
That's not a particularly scientific answer, but I think it's more or less
the case.

. . . This is my most important
question. We can't see across to our galaxy's hub,for space dust blocks
out its view. Here comes my question. How would this effect our night
sky if there was no dust? Bert

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. . . This is my most important
question. We can't see across to our galaxy's hub,for space dust blocks
out its view. Here comes my question. How would this effect our night
sky if there was no dust? Bert

I've oftened wondered about this myself, Bert. The hub of
the Milky Way Galaxy is probably very luminous. If there
were no dust to block this brightness, it would probably
appear very beautiful indeed!

And there might not be much deep-sky viewing from the
surface of Earth except during winter.

Here's an infrared shot...

http://www.seds.org/messier/more/mw_cobe.html

NASA assures us that we could read a newspaper by
the light of the unobstructed galaxy center. But i wonder...

If we also somehow remove the stars in the spiral arm
that is between us and the center, the stars that make up
the band called the Milky Way, there are so many very
bright stars in the center of the Galaxy that i truly believe
the night would only exist for us when the center is on the
same side of Earth as the Sun.

I've oftened wondered about this myself, Bert. The hub of
the Milky Way Galaxy is probably very luminous. If there
were no dust to block this brightness, it would probably
appear very beautiful indeed!

And there might not be much deep-sky viewing from the
surface of Earth except during winter.

If we also somehow remove the stars in the spiral arm
that is between us and the center, the stars that make up
the band called the Milky Way, there are so many very
bright stars in the center of the Galaxy that i truly believe
the night would only exist for us when the center is on the
same side of Earth as the Sun.

And i also wonder if the dust *completely* surrounds the
center? IOW, will there come a time in the Sun's orbit
around the center when the dust thins and we can see
all those beautiful central stars?

The problem with this idea is that the centre of the galaxy is still 10,000 parsecs away.

All Very nice answers. Interesting we have stars in our line of view
blocking as well. The sun is way out in left field)(or is it right
field) We can see other far away galaxy hubs millions of LY away better
than our own hub and that is only 28,000 LY away Still this does
not answer my first question. Why are there galaxies? Bert

OG I've also read that,but I feel something is missing. Galaxies came
very early(after the BB) To me that means the blue print of the
universe had to come from the BB. The big bang had the blue print of the
light elements,and the gas clouds were just hydrogen and helium. They
were not homogenized through out space. Gravity must have placed these
dense clouds here and there,and not just one big cloud filling space.
Then we have galaxies expanding away from each other for billion of
years. Can we estimate how close they were together 8 billion years ago?
Bert

Hi Painius. Well I can always count on you to create great interest to
my posts. That was a great picture. Is it realy a picture of our galaxy?
Painius I would not mind waiting that 200,000 years to get to are other
side of the hub. Its my great curiosity. My proplem is " My life is
going into the twilight zone" and that could be what the night sky would
be like if the bright stars (100millions of them) of the hub could come
shinning through. Bert