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| Frogwatch... |
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What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be? |
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| deemsbill at (no spam) aol.com... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:37 am |
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On Nov 6, 2:55 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Frogwatch <ohara... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
:What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
Court Martial.
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Can he not request a Federal Court trial?
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:If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
It doesn't matter why he did it. The charge will almost certainly be
multiple counts of murder with special circumstances.
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Yep, you gotta figure 13 counts of 1st Degree and 30+ counts of
Attempted 1st Degree should be enough. |
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| William Hamblen... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:39 pm |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
<ohara5.0 at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
[quote]What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
[/quote]
Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty Army,
the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under
the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At
least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so Texas
can get in on the act if it wants to.
Bud |
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| Fred J. McCall... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:55 pm |
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Frogwatch <ohara5.0 at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
:What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
Court Martial.
:If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
It doesn't matter why he did it. The charge will almost certainly be
multiple counts of murder with special circumstances.
--
You are
What you do
When it counts. |
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| Fred J. McCall... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:03 pm |
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"deemsbill at (no spam) aol.com" <deemsbill at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
:On Nov 6, 2:55 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
:> Frogwatch <ohara... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
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:> :What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
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:> Court Martial.
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: Can he not request a Federal Court trial?
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No.
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"Rule Number One for Slayers - Don't die."
-- Buffy, the Vampire Slayer |
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| Frogwatch... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:19 pm |
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On Nov 6, 9:08 pm, Alexander <Alexan... at (no spam) thegreat.org> wrote:
[quote]William Hamblen wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
ohara... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty Army,
the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under
the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At
least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so Texas
can get in on the act if it wants to.
Bud
Nope. Strictly a Federal matter as it happened on a Federal reserve.
I wonder why Texas Police were even on base? Military personal that are
wanted by other then Federal authorities are usually delivered to the
gate by Military Police. Also nonmilitary personal(Police) are required
to check all weapons at the gate. Kudo's to that Female civilian officer
that pumped 4 rounds into the killer and stopped further mayhem. I would
guess the dead Police officer also got a shot or two in before being
shot to death. Nancy Pelosi will more then likely work to ban any
weapons on american soil after this.
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Considering his prior statements to various people about what he
thought of non-muslims, could this be considered a "hate crime". |
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| David E. Powell... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:21 pm |
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On Nov 6, 9:19 pm, Frogwatch <dboh... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 6, 9:08 pm, Alexander <Alexan... at (no spam) thegreat.org> wrote:
William Hamblen wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
ohara... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty Army,
the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under
the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At
least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so Texas
can get in on the act if it wants to.
Bud
Nope. Strictly a Federal matter as it happened on a Federal reserve.
I wonder why Texas Police were even on base? Military personal that are
wanted by other then Federal authorities are usually delivered to the
gate by Military Police. Also nonmilitary personal(Police) are required
to check all weapons at the gate. Kudo's to that Female civilian officer
that pumped 4 rounds into the killer and stopped further mayhem. I would
guess the dead Police officer also got a shot or two in before being
shot to death. Nancy Pelosi will more then likely work to ban any
weapons on american soil after this.
Considering his prior statements to various people about what he
thought of non-muslims, could this be considered a "hate crime".
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Under civilian law yes, not sure about military proceedings. |
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| La N... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:02 pm |
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deemsbill at (no spam) aol.com wrote:
[quote]On Nov 6, 2:55 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Frogwatch <ohara... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
Court Martial.
Can he not request a Federal Court trial?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
It doesn't matter why he did it. The charge will almost certainly be
multiple counts of murder with special circumstances.
Yep, you gotta figure 13 counts of 1st Degree and 30+ counts of
Attempted 1st Degree should be enough.
[/quote]
He most certainly is looking at the death penalty. I wonder if he will
think it was all worth it in the end ...
- nilita |
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| Alexander... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:08 pm |
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William Hamblen wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
ohara5.0 at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty Army,
the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under
the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At
least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so Texas
can get in on the act if it wants to.
Bud
[/quote]
Nope. Strictly a Federal matter as it happened on a Federal reserve.
I wonder why Texas Police were even on base? Military personal that are
wanted by other then Federal authorities are usually delivered to the
gate by Military Police. Also nonmilitary personal(Police) are required
to check all weapons at the gate. Kudo's to that Female civilian officer
that pumped 4 rounds into the killer and stopped further mayhem. I would
guess the dead Police officer also got a shot or two in before being
shot to death. Nancy Pelosi will more then likely work to ban any
weapons on american soil after this. |
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| Ray O'Hara... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:24 pm |
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"Alexander" <Alexander at (no spam) thegreat.org> wrote in message
news:7lk344F3dldb5U1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net...
[quote]William Hamblen wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
ohara5.0 at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty Army,
the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under
the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At
least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so Texas
can get in on the act if it wants to.
Bud
Nope. Strictly a Federal matter as it happened on a Federal reserve.
I wonder why Texas Police were even on base? Military personal that are
wanted by other then Federal authorities are usually delivered to the gate
by Military Police. Also nonmilitary personal(Police) are required to
check all weapons at the gate. Kudo's to that Female civilian officer that
pumped 4 rounds into the killer and stopped further mayhem. I would guess
the dead Police officer also got a shot or two in before being shot to
death. Nancy Pelosi will more then likely work to ban any weapons on
american soil after this.
[/quote]
The wingnuts will claim that Pelosi will try .
but that is to fool weak muinded dupes who vote republican
Nancy Pelosi can't overturn the Bill of Rights |
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| Ray O'Hara... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:25 pm |
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"La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:By4Jm.50855$Db2.45189 at (no spam) edtnps83...
[quote]deemsbill at (no spam) aol.com wrote:
On Nov 6, 2:55 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Frogwatch <ohara... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
Court Martial.
Can he not request a Federal Court trial?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
It doesn't matter why he did it. The charge will almost certainly be
multiple counts of murder with special circumstances.
Yep, you gotta figure 13 counts of 1st Degree and 30+ counts of
Attempted 1st Degree should be enough.
He most certainly is looking at the death penalty. I wonder if he will
think it was all worth it in the end ...
- nilita
[/quote]
I don't think he expected to survive when he started out yeaterday. |
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| La N... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:27 pm |
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Ray O'Hara wrote:
[quote]"La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:By4Jm.50855$Db2.45189 at (no spam) edtnps83...
deemsbill at (no spam) aol.com wrote:
On Nov 6, 2:55 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Frogwatch <ohara... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
Court Martial.
Can he not request a Federal Court trial?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
It doesn't matter why he did it. The charge will almost certainly
be multiple counts of murder with special circumstances.
Yep, you gotta figure 13 counts of 1st Degree and 30+ counts of
Attempted 1st Degree should be enough.
He most certainly is looking at the death penalty. I wonder if he
will think it was all worth it in the end ...
- nilita
I don't think he expected to survive when he started out yeaterday.
[/quote]
If things had gone according to plan, about now he'd be lying in a hammock
being spoonfed by 72 virgins next to a river of wine. |
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| Alexander... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:51 pm |
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Frogwatch wrote:
[quote]On Nov 6, 9:08 pm, Alexander <Alexan... at (no spam) thegreat.org> wrote:
William Hamblen wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
ohara... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty Army,
the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under
the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At
least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so Texas
can get in on the act if it wants to.
Bud
Nope. Strictly a Federal matter as it happened on a Federal reserve.
I wonder why Texas Police were even on base? Military personal that are
wanted by other then Federal authorities are usually delivered to the
gate by Military Police. Also nonmilitary personal(Police) are required
to check all weapons at the gate. Kudo's to that Female civilian officer
that pumped 4 rounds into the killer and stopped further mayhem. I would
guess the dead Police officer also got a shot or two in before being
shot to death. Nancy Pelosi will more then likely work to ban any
weapons on american soil after this.
Considering his prior statements to various people about what he
thought of non-muslims, could this be considered a "hate crime".
[/quote]
Thats a scary thought. They can only give you the death penalty for the
murders... But a hate crime... Lord have mercy.... |
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| Don Ocean... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:53 pm |
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Ray O'Hara wrote:
[quote]"Alexander" <Alexander at (no spam) thegreat.org> wrote in message
news:7lk344F3dldb5U1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net...
William Hamblen wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
ohara5.0 at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty Army,
the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under
the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At
least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so Texas
can get in on the act if it wants to.
Bud
Nope. Strictly a Federal matter as it happened on a Federal reserve.
I wonder why Texas Police were even on base? Military personal that are
wanted by other then Federal authorities are usually delivered to the gate
by Military Police. Also nonmilitary personal(Police) are required to
check all weapons at the gate. Kudo's to that Female civilian officer that
pumped 4 rounds into the killer and stopped further mayhem. I would guess
the dead Police officer also got a shot or two in before being shot to
death. Nancy Pelosi will more then likely work to ban any weapons on
american soil after this.
The wingnuts will claim that Pelosi will try .
but that is to fool weak muinded dupes who vote republican
Nancy Pelosi can't overturn the Bill of Rights
[/quote]
You will never convince her of that.
[quote]
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| Alexander... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:56 pm |
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La N wrote:
[quote]Ray O'Hara wrote:
"La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:By4Jm.50855$Db2.45189 at (no spam) edtnps83...
deemsbill at (no spam) aol.com wrote:
On Nov 6, 2:55 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Frogwatch <ohara... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in?
Court Martial.
Can he not request a Federal Court trial?
If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
It doesn't matter why he did it. The charge will almost certainly
be multiple counts of murder with special circumstances.
Yep, you gotta figure 13 counts of 1st Degree and 30+ counts of
Attempted 1st Degree should be enough.
He most certainly is looking at the death penalty. I wonder if he
will think it was all worth it in the end ...
- nilita
I don't think he expected to survive when he started out yeaterday.
If things had gone according to plan, about now he'd be lying in a hammock
being spoonfed by 72 virgins next to a river of wine.
[/quote]
He is a Muslim. That wine has to be made from Honey. Called Meade. Nasty
stuff.
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