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| blacklight... |
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I was told that more meteorites fall onto the southern hemisphere than
the northern. Is this true - and if so: what is the reason?
Thanks for replies - Klaus
http://www.oz-greetings.com.au
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| Quadibloc... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:08 pm |
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On Nov 6, 6:22 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]blacklight wrote:
I was told that more meteorites fall onto the southern hemisphere than
the northern.
That would make no sense that one hemisphere would be sought out by
meteors. Because Australia has a lot of light sedimentary rock and
Antarctica is white, it is probably easier to FIND meteorites in the
southern hemisphere.
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On the other hand, a higher proportion of meteorites that fall in the
southern hemisphere... end up on the bottom of the ocean.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:22 pm |
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blacklight wrote:
[quote]I was told that more meteorites fall onto the southern hemisphere than
the northern.
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That would make no sense that one hemisphere would be sought out by
meteors. Because Australia has a lot of light sedimentary rock and
Antarctica is white, it is probably easier to FIND meteorites in the
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| khadema al suna... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:02 am |
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How to Convert to Islam and Become a Muslim
The word “Muslim” means one who submits to the will of God, regardless
of their race, nationality or ethnic background. Becoming a Muslim is
a simple and easy process that requires no pre-requisites. One may
convert alone in privacy, or he/she may do so in the presence of
others.
If anyone has a real desire to be a Muslim and has full conviction and
strong belief that Islam is the true religion of God, then, all one
needs to do is pronounce the “Shahada”, the testimony of faith,
without further delay. The “Shahada” is the first and most important
of the five pillars of Islam.
With the pronunciation of this testimony, or “Shahada”, with sincere
belief and conviction, one enters the fold of Islam.
Upon entering the fold of Islam purely for the Pleasure of God, all
of one’s previous sins are forgiven, and one starts a new life of
piety and righteousness. The Prophet said to a person who had placed
the condition upon the Prophet in accepting Islam that God would
forgive his sins:
“Do you not know that accepting Islam destroys all sins which come
before it?” (Saheeh Muslim)
When one accepts Islam, they in essence repent from the ways and
beliefs of their previous life. One need not to be overburdened by
sins committed before their acceptance. The person’s record is clean,
and it is as if he was just born from his mother’s womb. One should
try as much as possible to keep his records clean and strive to do as
many good deeds as possible.
The Holy Quran and Hadeeth (prophetic sayings) both stress the
importance of following Islam. God states:
“…The only religion in the sight of God is Islam…” (Quran 3:19)
In another verse of the Holy Quran, God states:
“If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be
accepted of him; and in the Hereafter, he will be in the ranks of
those who have lost (their selves in the Hellfire).” (Quran 3:85)
In another saying, Muhammad, the Prophet of God, said:
“Whoever testifies that there in none worthy of being worshipped but
God, Who has no partner, and that Muhammad is His slave and Prophet,
and that Jesus is the Slave of God, His Prophet, and His word[1] which
He bestowed in Mary and a spirit created from Him; and that Paradise
(Heaven) is true, and that the Hellfire is true, God will eventually
admit him into Paradise, according to his deeds.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The Prophet of God, may God praise him, also reported:
“Indeed God has forbidden to reside eternally in Hell the person who
says: “I testify that none has the right to worship except Allah
(God),’ seeking thereby the Face of God.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The Declaration of the Testimony (Shahada)
To convert to Islam and become a Muslim a person needs to pronounce
the below testimony with conviction and understanding its meaning:
I testify “La ilah illa Allah, Muhammad rasoolu Allah.”
The translation of which is:
“I testify that there is no true god (deity) but God (Allah), and that
Muhammad is a Messenger (Prophet) of God.”
To hear it click here or click on “Live Help” above for assistance by
chat.
When someone pronounces the testimony with conviction, then he/she
have become a Muslim. It can be done alone, but it is much better to
be done with an adviser through the “Live Help” at top, so he may help
you in pronouncing it right.
The first part of the testimony consists of the most important truth
that God revealed to mankind: that there is nothing divine or worthy
of being worshipped except for Almighty God. God states in the Holy
Quran:
“We did not send the Messenger before you without revealing to him:
‘none has the right to be worshipped except I, therefore worship
Me.’” (Quran 21:25)
This conveys that all forms of worship, whether it be praying,
fasting, invoking, seeking refuge in, and offering an animal as
sacrifice, must be directed to God and to God alone. Directing any
form of worship to other than God (whether it be an angel, a
messenger, Jesus, Muhammad, a saint, an idol, the sun, the moon, a
tree) is seen as a contradiction to the fundamental message of Islam,
and it is an unforgivable sin unless it is repented from before one
dies. All forms of worship must be directed to God only.
Worship means the performance of deeds and sayings that please God,
things which He commanded or encouraged to be performed, either by
direct textual proof or by analogy. Thus, worship is not restricted to
the implementation of the five pillars of Islam, but also includes
every aspect of life. Providing food for one’s family, and saying
something pleasant to cheer a person up are also considered acts of
worship, if such is done with the intention of pleasing God. This
means that, to be accepted, all acts of worship must be carried out
sincerely for the Sake of God alone.
The second part of the testimony means that Prophet Muhammad is the
servant and chosen messenger of God. This implies that one obeys and
follows the commands of the Prophet. One must believe in what he has
said, practice his teachings and avoid what he has forbidden. One must
therefore worship God only according to his teaching alone, for all
the teachings of the Prophet were in fact revelations and inspirations
conveyed to him by God.
One must try to mold their lives and character and emulate the
Prophet, as he was a living example for humans to follow. God says:
“And indeed you are upon a high standard of moral character.” (Quran
68:4)
God also said:
“And in deed you have a good and upright example in the Messenger of
God, for those who hope in the meeting of God and the Hereafter, and
mentions God much.” (Quran 33:21)
He was sent in order to practically implement the Quran, in his
saying, deeds, legislation as well as all other facets of life. Aisha,
the wife of the Prophet, when asked about the character of the
Prophet, replied:
“His character was that of the Quran.” (As-Suyooti)
To truly adhere to the second part of the Shahada is to follow his
example in all walks of life. God says:
“Say (O Muhammad to mankind): ‘If you (really) love God, then follow
me.’” (Quran 3:31)
It also means that Muhammad is the Final Prophet and Messenger of God,
and that no (true) Prophet can come after him.
“Muhammad is not the father of any man among you but he is the
Messenger of God and the last (end) of the Prophets and God is Ever
All-Aware of everything.” (Quran 33:40)
All who claim to be prophets or receive revelation after Muhammad are
imposters, and to acknowledge them would be tantamount to disbelief.
We welcome you to Islam, congratulate you for your decision, and will
try to help you in any way we can. |
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| Stu Dent... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:21 pm |
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How convert to Islam and blow away all your buddies !
"khadema al suna" <alsuuna at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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How to Convert to Islam and Become a Muslim
The word “Muslim” means one who submits to the will of God, regardless
of their race, nationality or ethnic background. Becoming a Muslim is
a simple and easy process that requires no pre-requisites. One may
convert alone in privacy, or he/she may do so in the presence of
others.
If anyone has a real desire to be a Muslim and has full conviction and
strong belief that Islam is the true religion of God, then, all one
needs to do is pronounce the “Shahada”, the testimony of faith,
without further delay. The “Shahada” is the first and most important
of the five pillars of Islam.
With the pronunciation of this testimony, or “Shahada”, with sincere
belief and conviction, one enters the fold of Islam.
Upon entering the fold of Islam purely for the Pleasure of God, all
of one’s previous sins are forgiven, and one starts a new life of
piety and righteousness. The Prophet said to a person who had placed
the condition upon the Prophet in accepting Islam that God would
forgive his sins:
“Do you not know that accepting Islam destroys all sins which come
before it?” (Saheeh Muslim)
When one accepts Islam, they in essence repent from the ways and
beliefs of their previous life. One need not to be overburdened by
sins committed before their acceptance. The person’s record is clean,
and it is as if he was just born from his mother’s womb. One should
try as much as possible to keep his records clean and strive to do as
many good deeds as possible.
The Holy Quran and Hadeeth (prophetic sayings) both stress the
importance of following Islam. God states:
“…The only religion in the sight of God is Islam…” (Quran 3:19)
In another verse of the Holy Quran, God states:
“If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be
accepted of him; and in the Hereafter, he will be in the ranks of
those who have lost (their selves in the Hellfire).” (Quran 3:85)
In another saying, Muhammad, the Prophet of God, said:
“Whoever testifies that there in none worthy of being worshipped but
God, Who has no partner, and that Muhammad is His slave and Prophet,
and that Jesus is the Slave of God, His Prophet, and His word[1] which
He bestowed in Mary and a spirit created from Him; and that Paradise
(Heaven) is true, and that the Hellfire is true, God will eventually
admit him into Paradise, according to his deeds.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The Prophet of God, may God praise him, also reported:
“Indeed God has forbidden to reside eternally in Hell the person who
says: “I testify that none has the right to worship except Allah
(God),’ seeking thereby the Face of God.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The Declaration of the Testimony (Shahada)
To convert to Islam and become a Muslim a person needs to pronounce
the below testimony with conviction and understanding its meaning:
I testify “La ilah illa Allah, Muhammad rasoolu Allah.”
The translation of which is:
“I testify that there is no true god (deity) but God (Allah), and that
Muhammad is a Messenger (Prophet) of God.”
To hear it click here or click on “Live Help” above for assistance by
chat.
When someone pronounces the testimony with conviction, then he/she
have become a Muslim. It can be done alone, but it is much better to
be done with an adviser through the “Live Help” at top, so he may help
you in pronouncing it right.
The first part of the testimony consists of the most important truth
that God revealed to mankind: that there is nothing divine or worthy
of being worshipped except for Almighty God. God states in the Holy
Quran:
“We did not send the Messenger before you without revealing to him:
‘none has the right to be worshipped except I, therefore worship
Me.’” (Quran 21:25)
This conveys that all forms of worship, whether it be praying,
fasting, invoking, seeking refuge in, and offering an animal as
sacrifice, must be directed to God and to God alone. Directing any
form of worship to other than God (whether it be an angel, a
messenger, Jesus, Muhammad, a saint, an idol, the sun, the moon, a
tree) is seen as a contradiction to the fundamental message of Islam,
and it is an unforgivable sin unless it is repented from before one
dies. All forms of worship must be directed to God only.
Worship means the performance of deeds and sayings that please God,
things which He commanded or encouraged to be performed, either by
direct textual proof or by analogy. Thus, worship is not restricted to
the implementation of the five pillars of Islam, but also includes
every aspect of life. Providing food for one’s family, and saying
something pleasant to cheer a person up are also considered acts of
worship, if such is done with the intention of pleasing God. This
means that, to be accepted, all acts of worship must be carried out
sincerely for the Sake of God alone.
The second part of the testimony means that Prophet Muhammad is the
servant and chosen messenger of God. This implies that one obeys and
follows the commands of the Prophet. One must believe in what he has
said, practice his teachings and avoid what he has forbidden. One must
therefore worship God only according to his teaching alone, for all
the teachings of the Prophet were in fact revelations and inspirations
conveyed to him by God.
One must try to mold their lives and character and emulate the
Prophet, as he was a living example for humans to follow. God says:
“And indeed you are upon a high standard of moral character.” (Quran
68:4)
God also said:
“And in deed you have a good and upright example in the Messenger of
God, for those who hope in the meeting of God and the Hereafter, and
mentions God much.” (Quran 33:21)
He was sent in order to practically implement the Quran, in his
saying, deeds, legislation as well as all other facets of life. Aisha,
the wife of the Prophet, when asked about the character of the
Prophet, replied:
“His character was that of the Quran.” (As-Suyooti)
To truly adhere to the second part of the Shahada is to follow his
example in all walks of life. God says:
“Say (O Muhammad to mankind): ‘If you (really) love God, then follow
me.’” (Quran 3:31)
It also means that Muhammad is the Final Prophet and Messenger of God,
and that no (true) Prophet can come after him.
“Muhammad is not the father of any man among you but he is the
Messenger of God and the last (end) of the Prophets and God is Ever
All-Aware of everything.” (Quran 33:40)
All who claim to be prophets or receive revelation after Muhammad are
imposters, and to acknowledge them would be tantamount to disbelief.
We welcome you to Islam, congratulate you for your decision, and will
try to help you in any way we can. |
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| TBerk... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:14 pm |
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On Nov 6, 4:49 pm, blacklight <i... at (no spam) oz-greetings.com.au> wrote:
[quote]I was told that more meteorites fall onto the southern hemisphere than
the northern. Is this true - and if so: what is the reason?
Thanks for replies - Klaushttp://www.oz-greetings.com.au
Nature Wilderness Geology
[/quote]
It might be that, over geological time spans, that there isn't any
difference.
Perhaps also that in our rerorded history there might be more, right
now anyway, becasue some source of 'flying space rock' to coin a term
is coming at the Solar System from the 'Southernly Direction'.
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| Quadibloc... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:53 pm |
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On Nov 7, 7:14 pm, TBerk <bayareab... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]Perhaps also that in our rerorded history there might be more, right
now anyway, becasue some source of 'flying space rock' to coin a term
is coming at the Solar System from the 'Southernly Direction'.
[/quote]
Generally speaking, though, it is believed that the meteorites that
reach Earth are material that was originally in orbit in our Solar
System, not Galactic debris. So I don't think that's a possibility.
Nearly all meteorites belong to one of the groups of asteroidal
material types - a few are rocks knocked into space from the Moon or
even Mars by larger impacts on those bodies.
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On Nov 6, 10:08 pm, Quadibloc <jsav... at (no spam) ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 6, 6:22 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
blacklight wrote:
I was told that more meteorites fall onto the southern hemisphere than
the northern.
That would make no sense that one hemisphere would be sought out by
meteors. Because Australia has a lot of light sedimentary rock and
Antarctica is white, it is probably easier to FIND meteorites in the
southern hemisphere.
On the other hand, a higher proportion of meteorites that fall in the
southern hemisphere... end up on the bottom of the ocean.
[/quote]
Meteorites do not fall, unless someone picks them up and drops them.
They rest on the Earth's surface (or on layers of ice, or on someone's
dining room floor, etc.) |
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| Quadibloc... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:46 am |
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On Nov 8, 8:17 am, wsnel... at (no spam) hotmail.com wrote:
[quote]Meteorites do not fall, unless someone picks them up and drops them.
They rest on the Earth's surface (or on layers of ice, or on someone's
dining room floor, etc.)
[/quote]
A meteorite is something that fell back when it was a meteor, so, yes,
it would perhaps have been more precise of me to say that "a higher
proportion of meteorites that _have fallen_ in the southern
hemisphere".
Of course I could have said "meteor" instead of "meteorites", but then
I'd be talking about something else, because most meteors burn up
before they reach the ground.
"a higher proportion of those meteors that fall in the southern
hemisphere, if they survive to become meteorites... end up at the
bottom of the ocean" - ah, yes, it _is_ possible to construct a
correct and coherent sentence in this regard.
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On Nov 8, 10:57 am, Chris L Peterson <c... at (no spam) alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
[quote]On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:17:38 -0800 (PST), wsnel... at (no spam) hotmail.com wrote:
Meteorites do not fall, unless someone picks them up and drops them.
They rest on the Earth's surface (or on layers of ice, or on someone's
dining room floor, etc.)
An object that survives ablation in the atmosphere is correctly called a
meteorite while it is falling. So we talk about the dark flight of the
meteorite, or the aerodynamics of the meteorite as it falls.
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It must not only survive ablation, it must survive the impact. And
once it does that it is no longer falling. |
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On Nov 8, 11:46 am, Quadibloc <jsav... at (no spam) ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 8, 8:17 am, wsnel... at (no spam) hotmail.com wrote:
Meteorites do not fall, unless someone picks them up and drops them.
They rest on the Earth's surface (or on layers of ice, or on someone's
dining room floor, etc.)
A meteorite is something that fell back when it was a meteor, so, yes,
it would perhaps have been more precise of me to say that "a higher
proportion of meteorites that _have fallen_ in the southern
hemisphere".
Of course I could have said "meteor" instead of "meteorites", but then
I'd be talking about something else, because most meteors burn up
before they reach the ground.
"a higher proportion of those meteors that fall in the southern
hemisphere, if they survive to become meteorites... end up at the
bottom of the ocean" - ah, yes, it _is_ possible to construct a
correct and coherent sentence in this regard.
John Savard
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Definitions can get fuzzy. A meteoroid that enters a planet's
atmosphere on a grazing trajectory, survives ablation and then heads
back out into space without reaching the planet's surface must still
be a meteoroid, not a meteorite. If it followed the same sort of
trajectory near the Moon, it would obviously not be called a
meteorite.
Meteors don't burn up in the atmosphere, they are the visual phenomena
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On Nov 8, 12:34 pm, Chris L Peterson <c... at (no spam) alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
[quote]On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:58:12 -0800 (PST), wsnel... at (no spam) hotmail.com wrote:
It must not only survive ablation, it must survive the impact. And
once it does that it is no longer falling.
That is not the usual usage. The reason we consider them meteorites
while still in the air after ablation is simple: if they survive
ablation, they will survive impact. Always.
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Not if they don't impact. |
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On Nov 8, 12:39 pm, Davoud <s... at (no spam) sky.net> wrote:
[quote]snel... at (no spam) hotmail.com:
Meteorites do not fall, unless someone picks them up and drops them.
They rest on the Earth's surface (or on layers of ice, or on someone's
dining room floor, etc.)
Chris L Peterson:
An object that survives ablation in the atmosphere is correctly called a
meteorite while it is falling. So we talk about the dark flight of the
meteorite, or the aerodynamics of the meteorite as it falls.
But only by changing its name _after_ it strikes the Earth. I think the
issue is a bit tricky. On the one hand, one might analyze a meteorite
and pronounce that "this meteorite" came from Mars and "this meteorite"
traveled for n million years before striking the Earth, etc, etc. One
would be (correctly) describing an object that had been flying through
space as a meteorite.
[/quote]
It is a bit difficult to think of the object that caused the famous
August, '72 fireball as a meteorite. It is also difficult to think of
a meteoroid that survives the ablation only to fracture into pieces on
impact as having survived the impact. The pieces that are found are
called meteorites, but not the body that is still falling. That is a
meteoroid.
[quote]OTOH, if you're at a public event and a meteor streaks through the sky
and Mary Q. says "Wow, did you see that meteorite," and if it's an
educational event, you will tell Mary that it's called a meteor and it
won't be called a meteorite until and unless it strikes the Earth. When
it conveniently falls at (not on) your feet* so that you can pick it
up, it is unarguably a meteorite.
But it seems to me that, since you would not call it a meteorite while
it was only a bright streak in the sky, when you begin to talk about
the meteorite's dark flight or about having seen it streaking toward
you, you are revising its entire history of n billion years -- "this
meteorite probably originated..." Now it was a meteorite from the
moment of its origin. It's Schrödinger's meteor/meteorite.
In short, I think you are quite correct and quite mistaken.
Davoud
*Better it should hit my representative, who last night voted for his
job security in a congressional district that tends toward social
regressiveness, and against the safety and security of the American
people. If it happened to a common person her "health insurance"
company, if she had one, would likely declare that being hit by a
meteor(ite) is a pre-existing condition.
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usenet *at* davidillig dawt com[/quote] |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:17:38 -0800 (PST), wsnell01 at (no spam) hotmail.com wrote:
[quote]Meteorites do not fall, unless someone picks them up and drops them.
They rest on the Earth's surface (or on layers of ice, or on someone's
dining room floor, etc.)
[/quote]
An object that survives ablation in the atmosphere is correctly called a
meteorite while it is falling. So we talk about the dark flight of the
meteorite, or the aerodynamics of the meteorite as it falls.
_________________________________________________
Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:21 am |
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On Nov 8, 11:06 am, wsnel... at (no spam) hotmail.com wrote:
[quote]The pieces that are found are
called meteorites, but not the body that is still falling. That is a
meteoroid.
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I thought it was a meteoroid when it was orbiting the Sun along with
the asteroids and comets, a meteor when it streaked through our
atmosphere, and a meteorite when it hit the ground.
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