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| Ray O'Hara... |
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"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 6, 1:42 am, Alexander <Alexan... at (no spam) thegreat.org> wrote:
[quote]Ray O'Hara wrote:
"a425couple" <a425cou... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hd0apq016mg at (no spam) news6.newsguy.com...
"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote ...
"Andrew Swallow" <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote ...
Ray O'Hara wrote:
the Army just admitted he was alive and in stable condition.
"admitted", hmm. I'm just not sure if that is just a word that came
out,
or if it really shows something of your thought process? (Admitting,
after
more thought, I often wish I'd used a different choice of words then I
typed out.)
Oh dear. That means that the Army is going to have to put him on
trial. A BIG MESS. Andrew Swallow
and then execute him.
Ahhh, I'd be willing to take a fair size bet that an 'execution' never
happens. When is the last time the military, or even any part of the
federal government conducted one? Is it even authorized anymore?
they knew he was alive yet let hours go by with reports saying he's dead
and the Military still has the death penalty and killing 12 and wounding
31
because yoou don't want to go overseas, don't agree with the war and
were
reprimanded for posting postive things on the "interwebs" about suicide
bombers will earn it for you.
As an Officer, he had the right to resign. What he did is unacceptable
and will be punished harshly. If it isn't, there will be more incidents
from others of like mind. It would be a good idea to start sorting these
mindsets out now. Before we have a lot of Fraggings take place.
[/quote]
It would seem that he owes a lot of service time for his various
degrees, paid for by the U.S. Army.
The Army probably delayed saying he was alive to determine whether his
act was part of a wider plot. Osama bin Ladin had recently broadcast
the desire to have Americans rise up and perform the sort of terrorist
acts the al Qaeda wanted.
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and it seems they got their wish.
Are they dancing in the streets over there again, like on 9/11? |
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| Ray O'Hara... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:04 am |
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"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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:"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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:> "a425couple" <a425couple at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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:> :"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote ...
:> :> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote ...
:> :>> Ray O'Hara wrote:
:> :>>> the Army just admitted he was alive and in stable condition.
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:> :"admitted", hmm. I'm just not sure if that is just a word
:> :that came out, or if it really shows something of your
:> :thought process?
:> :(Admitting, after more thought, I often wish I'd used
:> :a different choice of words then I typed out.)
:> :
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:> We're talking about Ray O'Hara. Are you surprised that that is the
:> phrasing that would occur to him?
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: explain your objection to the word admitted?
:{this should be funny}
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Were they trying to claim something else and then 'admitted' the
truth? No.
You're a fuckwit, Ray.
[/quote]
it seems they were.
all info was coming from the Army. first they said he was dead, then a good
6+ hours later "he's alive and in stable condition" |
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| Richard... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:25 am |
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On Nov 6, 10:53 am, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Richard <the.sar... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
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:> : explain your objection to the word admitted?
:> :{this should be funny}
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:> Were they trying to claim something else and then 'admitted' the
:> truth? No.
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:Can you prove that "no"? Fact, they had him in custody for 7 hours
:and knew he was alive and knew reports were going out (false ones)
:that reported the shooter dead. So why the delay on the correction?
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Perhaps because it's not their job to 'correct' the story and they
might have wanted to know if he was actually going to live before they
said he was going to live.
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:> You're a fuckwit, Ray.
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:And you resort to ad hominems.
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It's not an 'ad hominem' when it's true, Ray.
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I'm not Ray you blind fool.
[quote]:
:What does that say about you?
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It says you're a fuckwit.
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Bwahahaha. From you who can't even read headers.
You're cute, I'll make a garden ornament out of you!
Put you next to the other cracked pots.
[quote]
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"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine[/quote] |
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| William Black... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:27 am |
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Ray O'Hara wrote:
[quote]Are they dancing in the streets over there again, like on 9/11?
[/quote]
Where's 'over there' this time?
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff. |
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| Richard Casady... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:38 am |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 06:01:48 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum
<jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 6, 8:48 am, richardcas... at (no spam) earthlink.net (Richard Casady) wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:57:59 +0000, William Black
william.bl... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
The American public will demand vengeance. An Execution will be a
political necessity. I wonder where he can find a Jew Lawyer?
So.
As always you can be relied on to produce something deeply offensive to
everyone concerned.
What do you expect from someone who posts with a name like that?
To digress somewhat, why should the US get the eagle, while Canada
gets those vermin, Canada geese? Hardly seems fair.
Casady
Have you ever eaten both or either of those birds properly prepared?
http://www.crystalair.com/content.php?id=35200707001
http://homecooking.about.com/od/gooseandduckrecipes/r/blgoose5.htm
[/quote]
Properly prepared so often means: capable of sustaining life in a
starvation situation. Eagles eat fish. As for geese I have heard
nothing good about them. Too greasy some say, but I havn't tried it.
You want good tasting bird, ringneck pheasant, quail,[dove if you have
your own ammo factory]. Turkey is good. We have 19 ornamental ducks
that we don't plan to eat. They look like mallards, but triple the
mass.
Casady |
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| William Black... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:45 am |
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Richard Casady wrote:
As for geese I have heard
[quote]nothing good about them. Too greasy some say, but I havn't tried it.
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If it's too greasy it hasn't been cooked properly.
Goose is available at most UK meat outlets or you can buy direct from
the farmers at Christmas time.
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
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| David E. Powell... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:40 am |
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On Nov 6, 5:27 am, "scott s." <75270_37... at (no spam) csi.xcom> wrote:
[quote]Alexander <Alexan... at (no spam) thegreat.org> wrote innews:7lhuqvF3dpgd3U5 at (no spam) mid.individual.net:
As an Officer, he had the right to resign.
AFAIK, you never have the right to resign. You can submit a letter
requesting resignation, but it doesn't have to be accepted.
In his (and many others) case, he appears to have received
government funded education, for which he agreed to serve for a
term of years, so any such letter of resignation would not be
accepted.
scott s.
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[/quote]
There's also Conscientious Objector status, or just not re-enlisting.
If he were so upset over the last few years he would have had
opportunity to take his degree and go into private practice.
He probably wouldn't have had a combat post anyway, he was support and
treatment, most likely for people dealing with PTSD. (What brainiac
wanted him in charge of that?) |
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| Jack Linthicum... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:47 am |
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On Nov 6, 3:40 pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3... at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 6, 5:27 am, "scott s." <75270_37... at (no spam) csi.xcom> wrote:
Alexander <Alexan... at (no spam) thegreat.org> wrote innews:7lhuqvF3dpgd3U5 at (no spam) mid.individual.net:
As an Officer, he had the right to resign.
AFAIK, you never have the right to resign. You can submit a letter
requesting resignation, but it doesn't have to be accepted.
In his (and many others) case, he appears to have received
government funded education, for which he agreed to serve for a
term of years, so any such letter of resignation would not be
accepted.
scott s.
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There's also Conscientious Objector status, or just not re-enlisting.
If he were so upset over the last few years he would have had
opportunity to take his degree and go into private practice.
He probably wouldn't have had a combat post anyway, he was support and
treatment, most likely for people dealing with PTSD. (What brainiac
wanted him in charge of that?)
[/quote]
Same guys who paid him for college and a medical degree and more
without getting anything back. |
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| David E. Powell... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:47 am |
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On Nov 6, 1:34 am, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3... at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
:On Nov 5, 10:43 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
:> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swal... at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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:>news:MeGdnT81La1NBG7XnZ2dnUVZ8kVi4p2d at (no spam) bt.com...
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:> > Ray O'Hara wrote:
:> >> the Army just admitted he was alive and in stable condition.
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:> > Oh dear. That means that the Army is going to have to put him on
:> > trial. A BIG MESS.
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:> > Andrew Swallow
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:> and then execute him.
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:Treason is still a capital offense.
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It would probably be virtually impossible to 'prove' treason under the
US rules. What's the treasonable act? Multiple Murder With Special
Circumstances also carries a death penalty and is much easier to
convict on.
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I recall you need two witnesses to prove it, and that surely exists
plus plenty of other evidence. Swearing the oath and then shooting
fellow service members in a hospital certainly qualifies.
Though the murder charge was used the last time I can remember
something like this happen, the Army guy who shot fellow soldiers in
Saudi Arabia before the kickoff of Operation Iraqi Freedom.
[quote]"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn[/quote] |
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| David E. Powell... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:50 am |
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On Nov 6, 3:47 pm, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 6, 3:40 pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3... at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
On Nov 6, 5:27 am, "scott s." <75270_37... at (no spam) csi.xcom> wrote:
Alexander <Alexan... at (no spam) thegreat.org> wrote innews:7lhuqvF3dpgd3U5 at (no spam) mid.individual.net:
As an Officer, he had the right to resign.
AFAIK, you never have the right to resign. You can submit a letter
requesting resignation, but it doesn't have to be accepted.
In his (and many others) case, he appears to have received
government funded education, for which he agreed to serve for a
term of years, so any such letter of resignation would not be
accepted.
scott s.
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There's also Conscientious Objector status, or just not re-enlisting.
If he were so upset over the last few years he would have had
opportunity to take his degree and go into private practice.
He probably wouldn't have had a combat post anyway, he was support and
treatment, most likely for people dealing with PTSD. (What brainiac
wanted him in charge of that?)
Same guys who paid him for college and a medical degree and more
without getting anything back.
[/quote]
There is a certain story line coming out in news reports where people
said he felt discriminated against. Full college and graduate study
from the Army and a fast track to major doesn't sound like an official
policy of discrimination.
I am sure there is going to be one heck of an investigation into this
guy's background and what went down with his career up to this point,
as it sounds like the red flags were there. |
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| a425couple... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:19 am |
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"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message...
- richardcas... at (no spam) earthlink.net (Richard Casady) wrote:
-> William Black <william.bl... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
[quote]To digress somewhat, why should the US get the eagle, while Canada
gets those vermin, Canada geese? Hardly seems fair. Casady
[/quote]
-Have you ever eaten both or either of those birds properly prepared?
http://www.crystalair.com/content.php?id=35200707001
Cool find!
As they tore the check in half, , his promising future faded!
"The following recipe is from Tastes Like Bald Chicken, © Larry Elliot 2007,
published by Regnery Publishing.
Badly Bruised Eagle and Apple Stew
1 eagle, plucked, with tire tracks or buckshot removed ---
Pound eagle liberally with a rock, stick or hammer until the meat
takes on an extraordinary rendition look. Chop the vegetables ---
Cook -- for 2-3 hours, or until eagle meat can be easily pulled from the
bones.
Serve with day-old bread."
I'm wishing I could properly remember the old joke, , ,
Something about the new LEO / Fish & Game / whatever,
talking to the old coot asking if he knew of anyone
who had been shooting at protected eagles,
and the old coot kept shaking his head "no" while he
kept picking his teeth with something that looked
like a chicken bone. |
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| Fred J. McCall... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:49 am |
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"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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:"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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:> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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:> :"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
:> :news:r2f7f5tibcdtbghbjg5ph0a78q8uf7s537 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
:> :> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
:> :>
:> :> :
:> :> :"a425couple" <a425couple at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
:> :> :news:hd0apq016mg at (no spam) news6.newsguy.com...
:> :> :> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote ...
:> :> :>> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote ...
:> :> :>>> Ray O'Hara wrote:
:> :> :>>>> the Army just admitted he was alive and in stable condition.
:> :> :>
:> :> :> "admitted", hmm. I'm just not sure if that is just a word that came
:> out,
:> :> :> or if it really shows something of your thought process? (Admitting,
:> after
:> :> :> more thought, I often wish I'd used a different choice of words then
:> I
:> :> :> typed out.)
:> :> :>>> Oh dear. That means that the Army is going to have to put him on
:> :> :>>> trial. A BIG MESS. Andrew Swallow
:> :> :>>
:> :> :>> and then execute him.
:> :> :>
:> :> :> Ahhh, I'd be willing to take a fair size bet that an 'execution' never
:> :> :> happens. When is the last time the military, or even any part of the
:> :> :> federal government conducted one? Is it even authorized anymore?
:> :> :
:> :> : they knew he was alive yet let hours go by with reports saying he's dead
:> :> :and the Military still has the death penalty and killing 12 and wounding 31
:> :> :because yoou don't want to go overseas, don't agree with the war and were
:> :> :reprimanded for posting postive things on the "interwebs" about suicide
:> :> :bombers will earn it for you.
:> :> :
:> :>
:> :> What does that have to do with your reflexive use of the word
:> :> "admitted"?
:> :
:> : read what I wrote,
:> : they knew he was alive, they had him. yet it wasn't until after 9pm they
:> :admitted the truth.
:> :
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:> I read what you wrote. It demonstrates that you are a fuckwit.
:>
:> Were they trying to conceal that he was alive? If you claim so,
:> provide the proof. If not, then you're a fuckwit.
:>
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: I didn't think you could provide an answer.
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Since YOU were the one asked the question, YOU are the one that needs
to provide an answer. And of course you fail to do so.
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:they knew he was alive yet they didn't re;ease that info.
:they were upfront on the victims, shitstain
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That's because the status of the victims wasn't going to change.
Having been shot four times, put on a ventilator, and remaining
unconscious, what is so sinister about waiting until he's stable and
you know he's not going to die to say he's alive?
Still dodging the question, Ray. One more time: DO YOU MAINTAIN THAT
THEY WERE TRYING TO CONCEAL THAT HE WAS ALIVE? IF YOU CLAIM SO,
PROVIDE THE PROOF. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, THEN YOU'RE A FUCKWIT.
You catching on here, Ray? You're obviously unable to answer a simple
question, so I guess we can consider that you've agreed that you're a
fuckwit.
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
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| Fred J. McCall... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:52 am |
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"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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:"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
:news:mkk7f59u34ka6mt6dng1oakl66afhdd2kn at (no spam) 4ax.com...
:> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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:> :
:> :"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
:> :news:v3e7f5d5a7nnu83eglgdr299jj8vd62rrv at (no spam) 4ax.com...
:> :> "a425couple" <a425couple at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
:> :>
:> :> :"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote ...
:> :> :> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote ...
:> :> :>> Ray O'Hara wrote:
:> :> :>>> the Army just admitted he was alive and in stable condition.
:> :> :
:> :> :"admitted", hmm. I'm just not sure if that is just a word
:> :> :that came out, or if it really shows something of your
:> :> :thought process?
:> :> :(Admitting, after more thought, I often wish I'd used
:> :> :a different choice of words then I typed out.)
:> :> :
:> :>
:> :> We're talking about Ray O'Hara. Are you surprised that that is the
:> :> phrasing that would occur to him?
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:> :
:> : explain your objection to the word admitted?
:> :{this should be funny}
:> :
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:> Were they trying to claim something else and then 'admitted' the
:> truth? No.
:>
:> You're a fuckwit, Ray.
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: it seems they were.
:all info was coming from the Army. first they said he was dead, then a good
:6+ hours later "he's alive and in stable condition"
:
He was shot four times and on a ventilator, Ray. Perhaps they wanted
to wait until they knew if he was going to live or not before they
said he was alive?
Nah, that would be too simple an explanation...
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
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| Fred J. McCall... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:53 am |
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Richard <the.sargon at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
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:> : explain your objection to the word admitted?
:> :{this should be funny}
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:> Were they trying to claim something else and then 'admitted' the
:> truth? No.
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:Can you prove that "no"? Fact, they had him in custody for 7 hours
:and knew he was alive and knew reports were going out (false ones)
:that reported the shooter dead. So why the delay on the correction?
:
Perhaps because it's not their job to 'correct' the story and they
might have wanted to know if he was actually going to live before they
said he was going to live.
:>
:> You're a fuckwit, Ray.
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:And you resort to ad hominems.
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It's not an 'ad hominem' when it's true, Ray.
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:What does that say about you?
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It says you're a fuckwit.
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
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| Ray O'Hara... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:23 pm |
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"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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:"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
:news:2hk7f5dqei1cgp6q6q3ah9jh1i6s763dma at (no spam) 4ax.com...
:> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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:> :
:> :"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
:> :news:r2f7f5tibcdtbghbjg5ph0a78q8uf7s537 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
:> :> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
:> :
:> :> :
:> :> :"a425couple" <a425couple at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
:> :> :news:hd0apq016mg at (no spam) news6.newsguy.com...
:> :> :> "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote ...
:> :> :>> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow at (no spam) btopenworld.com> wrote ...
:> :> :>>> Ray O'Hara wrote:
:> :> :>>>> the Army just admitted he was alive and in stable condition.
:> :> :
:> :> :> "admitted", hmm. I'm just not sure if that is just a word that
came
:> out,
:> :> :> or if it really shows something of your thought process?
(Admitting,
:> after
:> :> :> more thought, I often wish I'd used a different choice of words
then
:> I
:> :> :> typed out.)
:> :> :>>> Oh dear. That means that the Army is going to have to put him
on
:> :> :>>> trial. A BIG MESS. Andrew Swallow
:> :> :
:> :> :>> and then execute him.
:> :> :
:> :> :> Ahhh, I'd be willing to take a fair size bet that an 'execution'
never
:> :> :> happens. When is the last time the military, or even any part of
the
:> :> :> federal government conducted one? Is it even authorized anymore?
:> :> :
:> :> : they knew he was alive yet let hours go by with reports saying
he's dead
:> :> :and the Military still has the death penalty and killing 12 and
wounding 31
:> :> :because yoou don't want to go overseas, don't agree with the war
and were
:> :> :reprimanded for posting postive things on the "interwebs" about
suicide
:> :> :bombers will earn it for you.
:> :> :
:> :
:> :> What does that have to do with your reflexive use of the word
:> :> "admitted"?
:> :
:> : read what I wrote,
:> : they knew he was alive, they had him. yet it wasn't until after 9pm
they
:> :admitted the truth.
:> :
:
:> I read what you wrote. It demonstrates that you are a fuckwit.
:
:> Were they trying to conceal that he was alive? If you claim so,
:> provide the proof. If not, then you're a fuckwit.
:
:
: I didn't think you could provide an answer.
:
Since YOU were the one asked the question, YOU are the one that needs
to provide an answer. And of course you fail to do so.
:
:they knew he was alive yet they didn't re;ease that info.
:they were upfront on the victims, shitstain
:
That's because the status of the victims wasn't going to change.
Having been shot four times, put on a ventilator, and remaining
unconscious, what is so sinister about waiting until he's stable and
you know he's not going to die to say he's alive?
Still dodging the question, Ray. One more time: DO YOU MAINTAIN THAT
THEY WERE TRYING TO CONCEAL THAT HE WAS ALIVE? IF YOU CLAIM SO,
PROVIDE THE PROOF. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, THEN YOU'RE A FUCKWIT.
You catching on here, Ray? You're obviously unable to answer a simple
question, so I guess we can consider that you've agreed that you're a
fuckwit.
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they did conceal he was alive, they concealed it for 8 hours.
it wasn't as if they didn't know he was in their care/custody. |
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