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| Michael A. Terrell... |
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Joerg wrote:
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
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It's particularly easy to pass smog tests now that the bureaucrats
simply plug into an ECU port... dummies ;-)
Out here they still hang a probe into the tail pipe.
The car, or the driver?
Depending on your driving style to the place possibly both. Sometimes
the driver doesn't pass and then gets a ride in the sheriff's car.
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Another good reason to live in Florida. No state income tax, and
very few insane state laws.
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| Michael A. Terrell... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:48 pm |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
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Don't give the Californicators any new ideas. They know about
Methane, but didn't think about tax-paying humans 
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They've thought of it, but the cost to replace all the probes they
would lose was just too high.
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| Joerg... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:59 pm |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
[quote]Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
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It's particularly easy to pass smog tests now that the bureaucrats
simply plug into an ECU port... dummies ;-)
Out here they still hang a probe into the tail pipe.
The car, or the driver?
Depending on your driving style to the place possibly both. Sometimes
the driver doesn't pass and then gets a ride in the sheriff's car.
Another good reason to live in Florida. No state income tax, and
very few insane state laws.
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How's the weather there this time of year? Have to go on a biz trip,
West Palm Beach. On the news it looked like parts of FL were flooding
but don't remember where. Do I have to bring waders and rain gear?
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| Joerg... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:43 pm |
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JeffM wrote:
[quote]Baron wrote:
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[quote]The guy copied something from someone else's work
to use in his own.
So he was trying to save himself some work.
I've no problem with that.
I have always assumed he was given full permission
to reuse anything in the document he received.
[/quote]
In that case the person giving him such permission has acted criminally,
by creating this work with an illegal copy of software. Very simple, IMHO.
[...]
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| Michael A. Terrell... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:26 pm |
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Joerg wrote:
[quote]
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
[...]
It's particularly easy to pass smog tests now that the bureaucrats
simply plug into an ECU port... dummies ;-)
Out here they still hang a probe into the tail pipe.
The car, or the driver?
Depending on your driving style to the place possibly both. Sometimes
the driver doesn't pass and then gets a ride in the sheriff's car.
Another good reason to live in Florida. No state income tax, and
very few insane state laws.
How's the weather there this time of year? Have to go on a biz trip,
West Palm Beach. On the news it looked like parts of FL were flooding
but don't remember where. Do I have to bring waders and rain gear?
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A few clouds here today with the high in the mid 70s and the low in
the hig 40s. I haven't heard of any floding on the news lately, but
today was mostly about the shootings in Orlando. About five hours of
coverage, so far.
http://www.wftv.com/weather/index.html is the weather RADAR for the
central Florida area.
<http://www.wpbf.com/weather/grid.html#HEARSTWX=http%3A//www.wpbf.com/weather/17063155/iframe.html%3Fqs%3D%3Blongname%3DInteractive%2520Radar%3Bshortname%3DInteractive>
is the weather RADAR for the West Palm Beach Florida area
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| John Devereux... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:15 am |
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Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> writes:
[quote]John Devereux wrote:
Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> writes:
Nico Coesel wrote:
Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
[...]
A few sentences later, quote "This evil schema part creaped into
quite some of my designs with which the only option I have now is
to recapture their schemas from scratch!"
[...]
When it comes to importing stuff that was made with illegal hackware I
see that differently. This case was unfortunate in that the guy who
imported it obviously did not know that the designer had used an
illegal copy. But as I said, in the same way if you receive a fake
100-Euro bill the same thing can happen in that the cashier at the
Hema store refuses it and you have no rights other than sue the guy
who gave it to you.
From the above it sounds more like they won't accept the fake bill *and
then they confiscate all your genuine money too*.
If it just rejected the part with a warning "part MC68HC11 created with
illegal copy", and allowed you to delete it, that would be more
reasonable. Why deliberatly infect the designs of honest customers?
We don't know whether it was just a model. Sounds more like part of a
schematic.
[/quote]
I think this is the original thread:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.arch.embedded/browse_frm/thread/f794e82d26b59e18/d7cf4149edb93ac7?q=*-*-website+reuse+paying.*+*-I-will-switch+cracked-*+*.would.not.help.*+zzz+after-*-*-version-*+copied+*.*.unlock.*.designs+*-*-*-*-exchange-*-*-*-*-third-party+reused+qq+*-*-single-bit-*-*-*-*+useless+*-*-*-projects-could-no-longer-be-opened>
[quote]CAD companies must pay their employees, pay into their health plan,
pay rent, heating, taxes and, oh, preferably turn a little
profit. Cadsoft's way of protection is, for me, definitely superior to
other alternatives such as MAC-lock or those dreaded dongles.
I agree it is better, but that does not make it acceptable.
IMO one of the great advantages of using a product like Eagle with good
community support would have been the ability to share libraries with
other users. But this is unthinkable given the above.
Do we know it was actually a library part alone that caused this?
[/quote]
It was a voltage regulator, apparantly. I am not familiar with Eagle so
don't know whether this would normally be a "library part" or a circuit
fragment.
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| Nico Coesel... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:37 am |
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Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
[quote]Nico Coesel wrote:
Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
Nico Coesel wrote:
Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
JeffM wrote:
JeffM wrote:
The product called Cadsoft EAGLE is infected with DRM.
If you give it the opportunity,
it will lock you out of your work product.
http://tinyurl.com/TheEAGLE-Virus
Baron wrote:
Total bull !
Your statement shows you to be a fool of few words
and of fewer actual ideas.
I suggest a reading comprehension course.
Markus described the whole sad tale.
Quote "... just because I once copied a voltage regulator (I think it
was) out of a design which aparently was made by some third party with a
cracked version."
A few sentences later, quote "This evil schema part creaped into quite
some of my designs with which the only option I have now is to recapture
their schemas from scratch!"
If this is true, then Cadsoft should be avoided. A piece of software
should not throw away or cripple files under any circumstance. If it
does, it is useless. Period.
When it comes to importing stuff that was made with illegal hackware I
see that differently. This case was unfortunate in that the guy who
imported it obviously did not know that the designer had used an illegal
That is why Cadsoft's behaviour is illegal under Dutch law. If you buy
something in Holland which appears to be stolen you'll still be the
rightful owner UNLESS you could have suspected you bought stolen goods
(ridiculous low price, weird circumstances, etc). ...
Well, Dutch law seems to be, ahem, strange. AFAIK in pretty much any
other Western country you'd be required to hand over the stolen goods.
So if someone steals your car and sells it, can the new "owner" really
keep it when the Rijkspolitie stops him and finds out?
[/quote]
If the new owner can proof he bought the car in good faith, he can
keep it. This is about limiting the number of victims to a crime.
Besides most people are insured against theft over here.
[quote]... Markus got the
schematic symbol in good faith and had no reason to doubt it. So
Markus is not part of the crime.
No, he is the victim of a criminal act committed by someone else.
[/quote]
A crime he had nothin to do with. So why should he be punished? Its
not like in the war where they shot a few innocent people to set an
example.
[quote]Cadsoft really should get to the root of the problem (for example by
disabling illegal copies) instead of incriminating their paying
customers. ...
If you find the silver bullet in how to disable illegal copies I am sure
they would offer you a lucrative job instantly. But then you'd have to
move and learn Bavarian 
[/quote]
There is always the lmlicense manager. Not ideal but it does work and
has become an industry standard for a reason. Probably too expensive
for Cadsoft or the 'not invented here' syndrome got in the way.
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indicates you are not using the right tools...
"If it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"
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| Baron... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:29 am |
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Joerg wrote:
[quote]JeffM wrote:
Baron wrote:
[...]
The guy copied something from someone else's work
to use in his own.
So he was trying to save himself some work.
I've no problem with that.
I have always assumed he was given full permission
to reuse anything in the document he received.
In that case the person giving him such permission has acted
criminally, by creating this work with an illegal copy of software.
Very simple, IMHO.
[...]
[/quote]
Agreed !
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| Joerg... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:31 am |
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John Devereux wrote:
[quote]Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> writes:
John Devereux wrote:
Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> writes:
Nico Coesel wrote:
Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
[...]
A few sentences later, quote "This evil schema part creaped into
quite some of my designs with which the only option I have now is
to recapture their schemas from scratch!"
[...]
When it comes to importing stuff that was made with illegal hackware I
see that differently. This case was unfortunate in that the guy who
imported it obviously did not know that the designer had used an
illegal copy. But as I said, in the same way if you receive a fake
100-Euro bill the same thing can happen in that the cashier at the
Hema store refuses it and you have no rights other than sue the guy
who gave it to you.
From the above it sounds more like they won't accept the fake bill *and
then they confiscate all your genuine money too*.
If it just rejected the part with a warning "part MC68HC11 created with
illegal copy", and allowed you to delete it, that would be more
reasonable. Why deliberatly infect the designs of honest customers?
We don't know whether it was just a model. Sounds more like part of a
schematic.
I think this is the original thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.arch.embedded/browse_frm/thread/f794e82d26b59e18/d7cf4149edb93ac7?q=*-*-website+reuse+paying.*+*-I-will-switch+cracked-*+*.would.not.help.*+zzz+after-*-*-version-*+copied+*.*.unlock.*.designs+*-*-*-*-exchange-*-*-*-*-third-party+reused+qq+*-*-single-bit-*-*-*-*+useless+*-*-*-projects-could-no-longer-be-opened
CAD companies must pay their employees, pay into their health plan,
pay rent, heating, taxes and, oh, preferably turn a little
profit. Cadsoft's way of protection is, for me, definitely superior to
other alternatives such as MAC-lock or those dreaded dongles.
I agree it is better, but that does not make it acceptable.
IMO one of the great advantages of using a product like Eagle with good
community support would have been the ability to share libraries with
other users. But this is unthinkable given the above.
Do we know it was actually a library part alone that caused this?
It was a voltage regulator, apparantly. I am not familiar with Eagle so
don't know whether this would normally be a "library part" or a circuit
fragment.
[/quote]
Quote from the original thread: "I downloaded a little Eagle project
somewhere from a website I can't even remember. It happened that back
then, I reused a very small part of this schema (with copy and paste) in
one of my projects and continued to copy and paste the same part from my
project into a couple of other projects of mine later on."
That sounds more like a chunk of schematic, not just one library part.
This is exactly how rumors start and can get totally out of hand :-)
I don't know where the poster is from but apparently Europe and folks in
France and NL use the word schema for schematic diagram.
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Regards, Joerg
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| Joerg... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:35 am |
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JeffM wrote:
[quote]JeffM wrote:
I have always assumed he was given full permission
to reuse anything in the document he received.
Joerg wrote:
In that case the person giving him such permission has acted criminally,
by creating this work with an illegal copy of software. Very simple, IMHO.
You and I will never see eye to eye on "intellectual property".
e.g. In a time when tools make the creative process ever easier,
I see the ever-increasing time spans in laws
as a perversion of the intent of The Founding Fathers:
http://google.com/search?q=cache:xOpHk86NJYUJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_copyright_law+Berne-*+*-Authors-*-*-*-exclusive-Right-*-*-*-*-*-*+14.years+life-*-*-plus-50-*+life.plus.70.years+28.year+14.year+28.years+*-*-*-*-*-benefiting-*-*+Sonny.Bono+last+*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-securing+last+75-*+120-*+registration+last+last+for-*-Times
[/quote]
See? So they could keep this for 120 years :-)
[quote]...and a remote kill switch THAT ISN'T REVEALED
is more than just bad faith; it is a breach of contract law.
[/quote]
AFAIK not in the US and not in most other Western countries. In the same
way that a crook was caught yesterday when he stole a Land Rover and
drove himself to his court (!) appointment. The car had a LoJack
installed, so ...
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| Baron... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:41 am |
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JeffM wrote:
[quote]JeffM wrote:
I have always assumed he was given full permission
to reuse anything in the document he received.
Joerg wrote:
In that case the person giving him such permission has acted
criminally, by creating this work with an illegal copy of software.
Very simple, IMHO.
You and I will never see eye to eye on "intellectual property".
e.g. In a time when tools make the creative process ever easier,
I see the ever-increasing time spans in laws
as a perversion of the intent of The Founding Fathers:
http://google.com/search?q=cache:xOpHk86NJYUJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_copyright_law+Berne-*+*-Authors-*-*-*-exclusive-Right-*-*-*-*-*-*+14.years+life-*-*-plus-50-*+life.plus.70.years+28.year+14.year+28.years+*-*-*-*-*-benefiting-*-*+Sonny.Bono+last+*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-securing+last+75-*+120-*+registration+last+last+for-*-Times
...and a remote kill switch THAT ISN'T REVEALED
is more than just bad faith; it is a breach of contract law.
[/quote]
Quote from original.
"I downloaded a little Eagle project somewhere from a
website I can't even remember. It happened that back then, I reused a
very small part of this schema (with copy and paste) in one of my
projects and continued to copy and paste the same part from my project
into a couple of other projects of mine later on. I forgot the schema
I downloaded from said website"
Quote from <http://google.com/search?q=define:plagiarist>
--> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarist.
"Plagiarism, as defined in the 1995 Random House Compact Unabridged
Dictionary, is the "use or close imitation of the language and thoughts
of another author and the representation of them as one's own original
work. ..."
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:58 am |
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Nico Coesel wrote:
[quote]Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
Nico Coesel wrote:
Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
Nico Coesel wrote:
Joerg <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
JeffM wrote:
JeffM wrote:
The product called Cadsoft EAGLE is infected with DRM.
If you give it the opportunity,
it will lock you out of your work product.
http://tinyurl.com/TheEAGLE-Virus
Baron wrote:
Total bull !
Your statement shows you to be a fool of few words
and of fewer actual ideas.
I suggest a reading comprehension course.
Markus described the whole sad tale.
Quote "... just because I once copied a voltage regulator (I think it
was) out of a design which aparently was made by some third party with a
cracked version."
A few sentences later, quote "This evil schema part creaped into quite
some of my designs with which the only option I have now is to recapture
their schemas from scratch!"
If this is true, then Cadsoft should be avoided. A piece of software
should not throw away or cripple files under any circumstance. If it
does, it is useless. Period.
When it comes to importing stuff that was made with illegal hackware I
see that differently. This case was unfortunate in that the guy who
imported it obviously did not know that the designer had used an illegal
That is why Cadsoft's behaviour is illegal under Dutch law. If you buy
something in Holland which appears to be stolen you'll still be the
rightful owner UNLESS you could have suspected you bought stolen goods
(ridiculous low price, weird circumstances, etc). ...
Well, Dutch law seems to be, ahem, strange. AFAIK in pretty much any
other Western country you'd be required to hand over the stolen goods.
So if someone steals your car and sells it, can the new "owner" really
keep it when the Rijkspolitie stops him and finds out?
If the new owner can proof he bought the car in good faith, he can
keep it. This is about limiting the number of victims to a crime.
Besides most people are insured against theft over here.
[/quote]
That is the perfect recipe to instill the thought that crime does pay.
Not good at all. Even many honest people will be taught by such laws to
"look the other way" when buying an iPhone or a Rolex from the guy with
the tattoos on the street corner because he has those "super deals".
Because they get to keep it no matter what. I am glad we do not have
such a law.
[quote]... Markus got the
schematic symbol in good faith and had no reason to doubt it. So
Markus is not part of the crime.
No, he is the victim of a criminal act committed by someone else.
A crime he had nothin to do with. So why should he be punished? Its
not like in the war where they shot a few innocent people to set an
example.
[/quote]
Nope. You need to restrict the use of data material to that from trusted
sources. Or would you download some software just from anywhere?
[quote]Cadsoft really should get to the root of the problem (for example by
disabling illegal copies) instead of incriminating their paying
customers. ...
If you find the silver bullet in how to disable illegal copies I am sure
they would offer you a lucrative job instantly. But then you'd have to
move and learn Bavarian :-)
There is always the lmlicense manager. Not ideal but it does work and
has become an industry standard for a reason. Probably too expensive
for Cadsoft or the 'not invented here' syndrome got in the way.
[/quote]
What license manager? The only alternatievs I saw in the CAD world are
MAC-lock and dongles. Both very cumbersome, at least for folks who must
travel like myself.
--
Regards, Joerg
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
[quote]Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
[...]
It's particularly easy to pass smog tests now that the bureaucrats
simply plug into an ECU port... dummies ;-)
Out here they still hang a probe into the tail pipe.
The car, or the driver?
Depending on your driving style to the place possibly both. Sometimes
the driver doesn't pass and then gets a ride in the sheriff's car.
Another good reason to live in Florida. No state income tax, and
very few insane state laws.
How's the weather there this time of year? Have to go on a biz trip,
West Palm Beach. On the news it looked like parts of FL were flooding
but don't remember where. Do I have to bring waders and rain gear?
A few clouds here today with the high in the mid 70s and the low in
the hig 40s. I haven't heard of any floding on the news lately, but
today was mostly about the shootings in Orlando. About five hours of
coverage, so far.
http://www.wftv.com/weather/index.html is the weather RADAR for the
central Florida area.
http://www.wpbf.com/weather/grid.html#HEARSTWX=http%3A//www.wpbf.com/weather/17063155/iframe.html%3Fqs%3D%3Blongname%3DInteractive%2520Radar%3Bshortname%3DInteractive
is the weather RADAR for the West Palm Beach Florida area
[/quote]
Thanks, Michael, just like here then except for higher humidity. I don't
like that blue thing heading north from the Caribbean though ;-)
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:25 am |
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Baron <baron.nospam at (no spam) linuxmaniac.nospam.net> writes:
[quote]JeffM wrote:
JeffM wrote:
I have always assumed he was given full permission
to reuse anything in the document he received.
Joerg wrote:
In that case the person giving him such permission has acted
criminally, by creating this work with an illegal copy of software.
Very simple, IMHO.
You and I will never see eye to eye on "intellectual property".
e.g. In a time when tools make the creative process ever easier,
I see the ever-increasing time spans in laws
as a perversion of the intent of The Founding Fathers:
http://google.com/search?q=cache:xOpHk86NJYUJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_copyright_law+Berne-*+*-Authors-*-*-*-exclusive-Right-*-*-*-*-*-*+14.years+life-*-*-plus-50-*+life.plus.70.years+28.year+14.year+28.years+*-*-*-*-*-benefiting-*-*+Sonny.Bono+last+*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-securing+last+75-*+120-*+registration+last+last+for-*-Times
...and a remote kill switch THAT ISN'T REVEALED
is more than just bad faith; it is a breach of contract law.
Quote from original.
"I downloaded a little Eagle project somewhere from a
website I can't even remember. It happened that back then, I reused a
very small part of this schema (with copy and paste) in one of my
projects and continued to copy and paste the same part from my project
into a couple of other projects of mine later on. I forgot the schema
I downloaded from said website"
Quote from <http://google.com/search?q=define:plagiarist
--> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarist.
"Plagiarism, as defined in the 1995 Random House Compact Unabridged
Dictionary, is the "use or close imitation of the language and thoughts
of another author and the representation of them as one's own original
work. ..."
[/quote]
So the actions quoted are clearly not plagiarism. There is no evidence
that he acted illegally or was passing off someone elses work as his
own.
Unless you think anyone who uses a 3rd party library is a plagiarist?
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| Baron... |
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John Devereux wrote:
[quote]Baron <baron.nospam at (no spam) linuxmaniac.nospam.net> writes:
JeffM wrote:
JeffM wrote:
I have always assumed he was given full permission
to reuse anything in the document he received.
Joerg wrote:
In that case the person giving him such permission has acted
criminally, by creating this work with an illegal copy of software.
Very simple, IMHO.
You and I will never see eye to eye on "intellectual property".
e.g. In a time when tools make the creative process ever easier,
I see the ever-increasing time spans in laws
as a perversion of the intent of The Founding Fathers:
http://google.com/search?q=cache:xOpHk86NJYUJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_copyright_law+Berne-*+*-Authors-*-*-*-exclusive-Right-*-*-*-*-*-*+14.years+life-*-*-plus-50-*+life.plus.70.years+28.year+14.year+28.years+*-*-*-*-*-benefiting-*-*+Sonny.Bono+last+*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-securing+last+75-*+120-*+registration+last+last+for-*-Times
...and a remote kill switch THAT ISN'T REVEALED
is more than just bad faith; it is a breach of contract law.
Quote from original.
"I downloaded a little Eagle project somewhere from a
website I can't even remember. It happened that back then, I reused a
very small part of this schema (with copy and paste) in one of my
projects and continued to copy and paste the same part from my
project into a couple of other projects of mine later on. I forgot
the schema I downloaded from said website"
Quote from <http://google.com/search?q=define:plagiarist
--> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarist.
"Plagiarism, as defined in the 1995 Random House Compact Unabridged
Dictionary, is the "use or close imitation of the language and
thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's
own original work. ..."
So the actions quoted are clearly not plagiarism. There is no evidence
that he acted illegally or was passing off someone elses work as his
own.
Unless you think anyone who uses a 3rd party library is a plagiarist?
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There is no mention of "library". He was using someone else's work !
Whether that work was done using a cracked copy of Eagle or not.
Its doubtful that he attributed anything to the original source.
Had he done so, then he could rightly argue about damage to his own
work. By his own admission he continued to use work that wasn't his to
use.
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Best Regards:
Baron. |
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