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| Henry Wilson DSc... |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:16:32 -0000, "Androcles" <Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p>
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"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:53:09 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"
paul.b.andersen at (no spam) somewhere.no> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
One of the main arguments in support of Einstein's P2 comes from
consideration
of Maxwells' derivation of c. Accordingly, the intrinsic impedance of
free
space is claimed to be the same everywhere and from this can be derived
the
speed of light in any observer's frame.
The fact is, Maxwell merely derived a value for the UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
known as
c. It has the dimensions of a speed, L/T, but its only known connection
with
any physical speed is that it is defines the magnitude at which light
leaves
its source.
The fact is that Maxwell merely derived that his equations predicted the
existence
of a wave which in vacuum should propagate at the speed c regardless of
the speed of
the source. One very obvious known connection with a physical speed is
that it is
the speed of light in vacuum.
WRT the source, yes. Nothing more.
Maxwell measured the values of e and mu
Bwhahahahahaha! Was that before or after he flew Michael Faraday's kite
that he borrowed from Ben Franklin?
[/quote]
When say Maxwell measured them I didn't mean he actually did it himself.
Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:41 am |
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"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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[quote]On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:16:32 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:8kv8f5ll79dureidfr9tluc1hvcaakoioi at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:53:09 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"
paul.b.andersen at (no spam) somewhere.no> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
One of the main arguments in support of Einstein's P2 comes from
consideration
of Maxwells' derivation of c. Accordingly, the intrinsic impedance of
free
space is claimed to be the same everywhere and from this can be
derived
the
speed of light in any observer's frame.
The fact is, Maxwell merely derived a value for the UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
known as
c. It has the dimensions of a speed, L/T, but its only known
connection
with
any physical speed is that it is defines the magnitude at which light
leaves
its source.
The fact is that Maxwell merely derived that his equations predicted the
existence
of a wave which in vacuum should propagate at the speed c regardless of
the speed of
the source. One very obvious known connection with a physical speed is
that it is
the speed of light in vacuum.
WRT the source, yes. Nothing more.
Maxwell measured the values of e and mu
Bwhahahahahaha! Was that before or after he flew Michael Faraday's kite
that he borrowed from Ben Franklin?
When say Maxwell measured them I didn't mean he actually did it himself.
[/quote]
Ah... so you don't say what you mean and you don't mean what you say.
You are a fuckin' idiot, D.umb Sc.umbag, and I don't mean what you say.
Just what DO you mean when you say Maxwell measured what he didn't
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| Henry Wilson DSc... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:50 pm |
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:41:02 -0000, "Androcles" <Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p>
wrote:
[quote]
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:n23af5pe1sgvtl4rluio23i0cmiaj3sigj at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:16:32 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:8kv8f5ll79dureidfr9tluc1hvcaakoioi at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:53:09 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"
paul.b.andersen at (no spam) somewhere.no> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
One of the main arguments in support of Einstein's P2 comes from
consideration
of Maxwells' derivation of c. Accordingly, the intrinsic impedance of
free
space is claimed to be the same everywhere and from this can be
derived
the
speed of light in any observer's frame.
The fact is, Maxwell merely derived a value for the UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
known as
c. It has the dimensions of a speed, L/T, but its only known
connection
with
any physical speed is that it is defines the magnitude at which light
leaves
its source.
The fact is that Maxwell merely derived that his equations predicted the
existence
of a wave which in vacuum should propagate at the speed c regardless of
the speed of
the source. One very obvious known connection with a physical speed is
that it is
the speed of light in vacuum.
WRT the source, yes. Nothing more.
Maxwell measured the values of e and mu
Bwhahahahahaha! Was that before or after he flew Michael Faraday's kite
that he borrowed from Ben Franklin?
When say Maxwell measured them I didn't mean he actually did it himself.
Ah... so you don't say what you mean and you don't mean what you say.
You are a fuckin' idiot, D.umb Sc.umbag, and I don't mean what you say.
Just what DO you mean when you say Maxwell measured what he didn't
measure?
[/quote]
What exactly are you arguing about?
Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
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| Androcles... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:04 pm |
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"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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[quote]On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:41:02 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:n23af5pe1sgvtl4rluio23i0cmiaj3sigj at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:16:32 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:8kv8f5ll79dureidfr9tluc1hvcaakoioi at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:53:09 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"
paul.b.andersen at (no spam) somewhere.no> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
One of the main arguments in support of Einstein's P2 comes from
consideration
of Maxwells' derivation of c. Accordingly, the intrinsic impedance
of
free
space is claimed to be the same everywhere and from this can be
derived
the
speed of light in any observer's frame.
The fact is, Maxwell merely derived a value for the UNIVERSAL
CONSTANT
known as
c. It has the dimensions of a speed, L/T, but its only known
connection
with
any physical speed is that it is defines the magnitude at which
light
leaves
its source.
The fact is that Maxwell merely derived that his equations predicted
the
existence
of a wave which in vacuum should propagate at the speed c regardless
of
the speed of
the source. One very obvious known connection with a physical speed is
that it is
the speed of light in vacuum.
WRT the source, yes. Nothing more.
Maxwell measured the values of e and mu
Bwhahahahahaha! Was that before or after he flew Michael Faraday's kite
that he borrowed from Ben Franklin?
When say Maxwell measured them I didn't mean he actually did it himself.
Ah... so you don't say what you mean and you don't mean what you say.
You are a fuckin' idiot, D.umb Sc.umbag, and I don't mean what you say.
Just what DO you mean when you say Maxwell measured what he didn't
measure?
What exactly are you arguing about?
[/quote]
Your dumb claim that Maxwell measured e and mu.
First of all it's epsilon_0, not 'e', and secondly it's like the
'h' in 'egg'; it doesn't exist, therefore it cannot be measured.
Matter can have permittivity, empty space cannot. The fuckin'
aether has been dead for 125 years and dumbfucks like you are
still talking about its properties. This is 21st century, Wilson,
not the 19th. |
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| Henry Wilson DSc... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:48 am |
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:04:48 -0000, "Androcles" <Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p>
wrote:
[quote]
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:ncnbf5hju242oedobp7ll8301dp0399h9v at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:41:02 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
Bwhahahahahaha! Was that before or after he flew Michael Faraday's kite
that he borrowed from Ben Franklin?
When say Maxwell measured them I didn't mean he actually did it himself.
Ah... so you don't say what you mean and you don't mean what you say.
You are a fuckin' idiot, D.umb Sc.umbag, and I don't mean what you say.
Just what DO you mean when you say Maxwell measured what he didn't
measure?
What exactly are you arguing about?
Your dumb claim that Maxwell measured e and mu.
First of all it's epsilon_0, not 'e', and secondly it's like the
'h' in 'egg'; it doesn't exist, therefore it cannot be measured.
[/quote]
I told YOU that. Don't you read my posts?
What is measured are the properties of the fields used in the experiiment.
[quote]Matter can have permittivity, empty space cannot. The fuckin'
aether has been dead for 125 years and dumbfucks like you are
still talking about its properties. This is 21st century, Wilson,
not the 19th.
[/quote]
You're out of date enough to remember the latter.
Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:48 am |
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"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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[quote]On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:04:48 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:ncnbf5hju242oedobp7ll8301dp0399h9v at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:41:02 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
Bwhahahahahaha! Was that before or after he flew Michael Faraday's
kite
that he borrowed from Ben Franklin?
When say Maxwell measured them I didn't mean he actually did it
himself.
Ah... so you don't say what you mean and you don't mean what you say.
You are a fuckin' idiot, D.umb Sc.umbag, and I don't mean what you say.
Just what DO you mean when you say Maxwell measured what he didn't
measure?
What exactly are you arguing about?
Your dumb claim that Maxwell measured e and mu.
First of all it's epsilon_0, not 'e', and secondly it's like the
'h' in 'egg'; it doesn't exist, therefore it cannot be measured.
I told YOU that. Don't you read my posts?
[/quote]
Not when YOU say Maxwell measured them YOU didn't mean
he actually did it himself, I don't. What EXACTLY are you
BABBLING about?
[quote]
What is measured are the properties of the fields used in the experiiment.
[/quote]
WHAT FUCKIN' EXPERIIMENT? Nobody has yet invented a
fuckin' permittivity meter for someone to measure the permittivity
of aether for Maxwel to use.
[quote]
Matter can have permittivity, empty space cannot. The fuckin'
aether has been dead for 125 years and dumbfucks like you are
still talking about its properties. This is 21st century, Wilson,
not the 19th.
You're out of date enough to remember the latter.
[/quote]
I'm not the one claiming I didn't mean Maxwell measured the properties
of the fields used in the experiiment with a fuckin' permittivity meter,
you ranting lunatic. |
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| Henry Wilson DSc... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:27 am |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:48:10 -0000, "Androcles" <Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p>
wrote:
[quote]
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:19qcf51b1h39fs4sfjao02foe1pq1se5b7 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:04:48 -0000, "Androcles"
Your dumb claim that Maxwell measured e and mu.
First of all it's epsilon_0, not 'e', and secondly it's like the
'h' in 'egg'; it doesn't exist, therefore it cannot be measured.
I told YOU that. Don't you read my posts?
Not when YOU say Maxwell measured them YOU didn't mean
he actually did it himself, I don't. What EXACTLY are you
BABBLING about?
[/quote]
Being an engineer, you wouldn't know anything about the finer points of
physics.
Maxwell reckoned that'c' was the ratio of e.m.u. to e.s.u. units
To determine that value of c, measurements had to be made to determine e and
mu. This was done on Earth and therefore reveals nothing about empty space..
[quote]
What is measured are the properties of the fields used in the experiiment.
WHAT FUCKIN' EXPERIIMENT? Nobody has yet invented a
fuckin' permittivity meter for someone to measure the permittivity
of aether for Maxwel to use.
[/quote]
Please don't swear on the internet.
[quote]Matter can have permittivity, empty space cannot. The fuckin'
aether has been dead for 125 years and dumbfucks like you are
still talking about its properties. This is 21st century, Wilson,
not the 19th.
You're out of date enough to remember the latter.
I'm not the one claiming I didn't mean Maxwell measured the properties
of the fields used in the experiiment with a fuckin' permittivity meter,
you ranting lunatic.
[/quote]
.....time for your morning dram...
Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
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| Androcles... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:58 am |
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"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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[quote]On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:48:10 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:19qcf51b1h39fs4sfjao02foe1pq1se5b7 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:04:48 -0000, "Androcles"
Your dumb claim that Maxwell measured e and mu.
First of all it's epsilon_0, not 'e', and secondly it's like the
'h' in 'egg'; it doesn't exist, therefore it cannot be measured.
I told YOU that. Don't you read my posts?
Not when YOU say Maxwell measured them YOU didn't mean
he actually did it himself, I don't. What EXACTLY are you
BABBLING about?
Being an engineer, you wouldn't know anything about the finer points of
physics.
[/quote]
Being a moron, you wouldn't know anything about the finer points of
bullshit, you just spew the obvious kind.
[quote]Maxwell reckoned that'c' was the ratio of e.m.u. to e.s.u. units
To determine that value of c, measurements had to be made to determine e
and
mu. This was done on Earth and therefore reveals nothing about empty
space..
[/quote]
Who by?
[quote]
What is measured are the properties of the fields used in the
experiiment.
WHAT FUCKIN' EXPERIIMENT? Nobody has yet invented a
fuckin' permittivity meter for someone to measure the permittivity
of aether for Maxwel to use.
Please don't swear on the internet.
[/quote]
Please don't lie on the internet.
WHAT FUCKIN' EXPERIIMENT, DUMBFUCK?
[quote]
Matter can have permittivity, empty space cannot. The fuckin'
aether has been dead for 125 years and dumbfucks like you are
still talking about its properties. This is 21st century, Wilson,
not the 19th.
You're out of date enough to remember the latter.
I'm not the one claiming I didn't mean Maxwell measured the properties
of the fields used in the experiiment with a fuckin' permittivity meter,
you ranting lunatic.
....time for your morning dram...
[/quote]
time you quit bullshitting. |
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| Henry Wilson DSc... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:18 pm |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:58:46 -0000, "Androcles" <Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p>
wrote:
[quote]
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:2uvcf5plk5p1qfnsf0m5hmmoqpfqomjckj at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:48:10 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
wrote:
[/quote]
[quote]
Being an engineer, you wouldn't know anything about the finer points of
physics.
Being a moron, you wouldn't know anything about the finer points of
bullshit, you just spew the obvious kind.
Maxwell reckoned that'c' was the ratio of e.m.u. to e.s.u. units
To determine that value of c, measurements had to be made to determine e
and
mu. This was done on Earth and therefore reveals nothing about empty
space..
Who by?
[/quote]
Maxwell's grandmother I suppose.....
....and lots of others....It was a standard university experiment.
[quote]What is measured are the properties of the fields used in the
experiiment.
WHAT FUCKIN' EXPERIIMENT? Nobody has yet invented a
fuckin' permittivity meter for someone to measure the permittivity
of aether for Maxwel to use.
Please don't swear on the internet.
Please don't lie on the internet.
WHAT FUCKIN' EXPERIIMENT, DUMBFUCK?
[/quote]
Capacity and delectric constant. Magnetic permeability in vacuum..... that kind
of thing
[quote]Matter can have permittivity, empty space cannot. The fuckin'
aether has been dead for 125 years and dumbfucks like you are
still talking about its properties. This is 21st century, Wilson,
not the 19th.
You're out of date enough to remember the latter.
I'm not the one claiming I didn't mean Maxwell measured the properties
of the fields used in the experiiment with a fuckin' permittivity meter,
you ranting lunatic.
....time for your morning dram...
time you quit bullshitting.
[/quote]
Have you learnt how to use google yet?
[quote]
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| Androcles... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:46 pm |
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"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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[quote]On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:58:46 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
news:2uvcf5plk5p1qfnsf0m5hmmoqpfqomjckj at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:48:10 -0000, "Androcles"
Headmaster at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics_p
wrote:
Being an engineer, you wouldn't know anything about the finer points of
physics.
Being a moron, you wouldn't know anything about the finer points of
bullshit, you just spew the obvious kind.
Maxwell reckoned that'c' was the ratio of e.m.u. to e.s.u. units
To determine that value of c, measurements had to be made to determine e
and
mu. This was done on Earth and therefore reveals nothing about empty
space..
Who by?
Maxwell's grandmother I suppose.....
...and lots of others....It was a standard university experiment.
[/quote]
What, measuring epsilon_0 in aether? Are you an aetherialist?
I thought your brand was lucky white heather. Is that what
standard universities use?
[quote]
What is measured are the properties of the fields used in the
experiiment.
WHAT FUCKIN' EXPERIIMENT? Nobody has yet invented a
fuckin' permittivity meter for someone to measure the permittivity
of aether for Maxwel to use.
Please don't swear on the internet.
Please don't lie on the internet.
WHAT FUCKIN' EXPERIIMENT, DUMBFUCK?
Capacity and delectric constant. Magnetic permeability in vacuum..... that
kind
of thing
[/quote]
Where do you get the lucky white h-aether?
[quote]Matter can have permittivity, empty space cannot. The fuckin'
aether has been dead for 125 years and dumbfucks like you are
still talking about its properties. This is 21st century, Wilson,
not the 19th.
You're out of date enough to remember the latter.
I'm not the one claiming I didn't mean Maxwell measured the properties
of the fields used in the experiiment with a fuckin' permittivity meter,
you ranting lunatic.
....time for your morning dram...
time you quit bullshitting.
Have you learnt how to use google yet?
[/quote]
Yes, look:
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/jgr/lowres/jgrn809l.jpg |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:29 pm |
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Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:53:09 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"
paul.b.andersen at (no spam) somewhere.no> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
One of the main arguments in support of Einstein's P2 comes from consideration
of Maxwells' derivation of c. Accordingly, the intrinsic impedance of free
space is claimed to be the same everywhere and from this can be derived the
speed of light in any observer's frame.
The fact is, Maxwell merely derived a value for the UNIVERSAL CONSTANT known as
c. It has the dimensions of a speed, L/T, but its only known connection with
any physical speed is that it is defines the magnitude at which light leaves
its source.
The fact is that Maxwell merely derived that his equations predicted the existence
of a wave which in vacuum should propagate at the speed c regardless of the speed of
the source. One very obvious known connection with a physical speed is that it is
the speed of light in vacuum.
WRT the source, yes. Nothing more.
[/quote]
Maxwell's equations predict that the speed of light is independent of
the speed of the source.
Fact, nothing to discuss.
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Paul
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| Henry Wilson DSc... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:59 am |
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:29:58 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"
<paul.b.andersen at (no spam) utopia.no> wrote:
[quote]Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:53:09 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"
paul.b.andersen at (no spam) somewhere.no> wrote:
Henry Wilson DSc wrote:
One of the main arguments in support of Einstein's P2 comes from consideration
of Maxwells' derivation of c. Accordingly, the intrinsic impedance of free
space is claimed to be the same everywhere and from this can be derived the
speed of light in any observer's frame.
The fact is, Maxwell merely derived a value for the UNIVERSAL CONSTANT known as
c. It has the dimensions of a speed, L/T, but its only known connection with
any physical speed is that it is defines the magnitude at which light leaves
its source.
The fact is that Maxwell merely derived that his equations predicted the existence
of a wave which in vacuum should propagate at the speed c regardless of the speed of
the source. One very obvious known connection with a physical speed is that it is
the speed of light in vacuum.
WRT the source, yes. Nothing more.
Maxwell's equations predict that the speed of light is independent of
the speed of the source.
Fact, nothing to discuss.
[/quote]
Hahahhahhahahhaahha! You haven't learnt a thing in ten years.
Maxwell's equations apply to EM waves in his imaginary aether, a semblence of
which is approximated near large masses.
ALL speeds need a reference.
Here' something for you: www.scisite.info/r cru2.jpg
Not a bad match, eh?
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:16 pm |
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"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW at (no spam) ..> wrote in message
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[quote]ALL speeds need a reference.
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Noone is claiming they don't. Do you have problems reading? |
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