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[quote]Dr. Chung do you sin?
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"No."
[quote]Please provide examples of how often
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"Zero."
[quote]and of what kind?
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"None."
The word of the Lord in measure of the above:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in
us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our
sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in
us.
My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin;
but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus
Christ the righteous; and he is the expiation for our sins, and not for
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| guardian Snow... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:29 am |
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On Nov 4, 12:29 am, ver... at (no spam) gefinden.com wrote:
[quote]Dr. Chung do you sin?
"No."
Please provide examples of how often
"Zero."
and of what kind?
"None."
The word of the Lord in measure of the above:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in
us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our
sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in
us.
My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin;
but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus
Christ the righteous; and he is the expiation for our sins, and not for
ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
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Live to win. Apostle Paul said:
1Co 9:24 Do you not know that those who run in a race indeed all run,
but one receives the prize? Run in such a way as to obtain it.
Ask yourself, does the person who is winning the race suddenly stop
before the finish to kick the person in last place? One of my
favorite songs says,
Runner by Manfred Mann
“Through the night, through the dawn
Behind you another runner is born
Don't look back, you've been there
Feel the mist as your breath hits the air
And it's underneath the moonlight
Passing some
Still your heart beats in the moonlight
Like a drum
And you will run your time
A shooting star across the sky
And you will surely cross the line
To pass on the flame” -
Not everybody is going to win this race but most certainly, you can be
on that winning team that comes to the truth and recognize your own
divine nature. Why do so many claim to “live in sin” which is a
present tense, self defeating negative statement of their own state?
If you are forgiven and made whole then if you are truly “one with the
spirit” you will no longer retain those old ways of thought and
perfection is within your reach but first, YOU MUST BELIEVE.
Mat 12:37 “For by your words you shall be declared righteous, and by
your words you shall be declared unrighteous.”
Words are awesome power and contain within them the very “mystery” of
life. I speak of a mystery not because it is any secret revelation
given to me but because so few understand that in reality science
shows your faith, your belief and your works can and do make you whole
and strong. As you believe, it will be done said the Messiah.
Mat 8:13 And Yehoshua said to the captain, “Go, and as you have
believed, so let it be done for you.” And his servant was healed that
hour.
So many people actually demonstrate a lack of faith and these people
do not need to be corrected or put down or even argued against because
this is not the Messianic doctrine of peace.
Simply put, if I spent all my days like some going around telling you
about all the false witnesses in the world, I would never truly obey
my Masters teachings to spread the Good News that the power of life,
forgiveness and even healing come to those who know, obey and keep to
the teachings of Torah.
I am a spiritual being with a body and connection to my source of
being, connects me to an infinite power that when understood grants me
the ability of source energy that Hebrew Scriptures names, YAHWEH. If
I spoke of the marvelous things that have manifested in my life by his
name, most would ridicule me and trample me down as a dog but this
understanding is clear, when we follow the true teachings of the Torah
and the spiritual giants of our Masters the prophets, conflict
disappears and we become one with the will of Yahweh and that source
and I say now that whether for good or evil, what we focus on will
manifest according to our belief.
So many have become slave to a dogma that says they must continue to
live in transgression of the Torah? Why would you believe you are
anything less that PERFECTION? Why believe you are unable to keep the
Torah when at it’s very core of the doctrine it says, “Do what is
right” and “Love Elohim, your neighbor and the stranger who sojourns
amongst you” for we were once strangers ourselves but now are called
to be Priest of the most high EL YAHWEH.
Mat 17:20 And Yehoshua said to them, “Because of your unbelief, for
truly, I say to you, if you have belief as a mustard seed, you shall
say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it shall move.
And no matter shall be impossible for you.”
If NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE, you are only demonstrating unbelief when you
confirm these teachings that you continue to live in sin for in it,
you deny that you are forgiven and made whole by your belief and now
should do the works accordingly as our Messiah taught, guarding ALL
that he commanded and living a life by the examples that he left for
us to follow after… only then do we understand what he taught us to
“take up your stake” and to “follow me” for in it, we understand that
we are equals with him as one brother is to another.
Mat 12:48 But He answering, said to the one who spoke to Him, “Who is
My mother and who are My brothers?”
Mat 12:49 And having stretched out His hand toward His taught ones, He
said, “See My mother and My brothers!
Mat 12:50 “For whoever does the desire of My Father who is in the
heavens is My brother and sister and mother.”
YAHWEH is not a respecter of your sex and this applies to woman as
well, that no person is left behind in this race to the finish… that
UNITY is by SPIRIT and the power of OUR WORD and so, carry your torch
and be that light, that beacon on the hill and recognize YOUR
righteousness in Yahweh and do what is right to win the race, keep
running underneath the moonlight and blaze your trail that others may
follow YOU in example. If not for yourself, do it for your children…
your friends, your family… you know what is right but first you must
believe that you are capable and put away self defeating thoughts of
imperfections and inability and truly adopt that euphemist that
President Obama made so famous that says, “Yes, WE CAN!” We can, when
we do what is right and connect to that infinite source to envision
what should be for the Torah is a Universal way of life, not a curse
to be shunned or feared.
Rom 3:31 Do we then nullify the Torah through the belief? Let it not
be! On the contrary, we establish the Torah.1 Footnote: 1See 7:12.
Establish the Torah in your life through belief because until you
actually work it by putting your beliefs into action, you have simply
gone into unbelief in your own ability to do what is right.
Mat 7:12 “Therefore, whatever you wish men to do to you, do also to
them, for this is the Torah and the Prophets.”
Shalom,
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(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)
Be thou the rainbow in the storms of life. The evening beam that
smiles the clouds away, and tints tomorrow with prophetic ray.
Lord Byron
Please come post your comments at
http://groups.google.com/group/messianicYehoshua
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/messianic_Yehoshua/
A public forum for those who believe.
“You’re the voice” by John Farnham
We have
The chance to turn the pages over
We can write what we want to write
We gotta make ends meet, before we get much older
We're all someone's daughter
We're all someone's son
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?
Chorus:
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make a noise and make it clear
Oh-o-o-o, whoa-o-o-o!
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear
Oh-o-o-o, whoa-o-o-o!
This time
We know we all stand together
With the power to be powerful
Believing, we can make it better
Portions of this post have been reprinted from (Scriptures +1998)
version which you can download for free at
http://www.isr-messianic.org/ |
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| Michael Christ... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:30 pm |
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<verity at (no spam) gefinden.com> wrote in message
news:4af03042$0$11054$1c4686b2 at (no spam) news.club.cc.cmu.edu...
[quote]Dr. Chung do you sin?
"No."
Please provide examples of how often
"Zero."
and of what kind?
"None."
The word of the Lord in measure of the above:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in
us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our
sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in
us.
My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin;
but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus
Christ the righteous; and he is the expiation for our sins, and not for
ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
[/quote]
Interesting that it doesn't say, 'when one sins', it says, 'if any one does
sin'. Apparently the ones who are in the 'when one sins' department declare
that everyone has to be like them.  .
Michael Christ |
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:27 am |
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Michael Christ wrote:
[quote]satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
Dr. Chung do you sin?
"No."
[/quote]
Not while in the Holy Spirit.
[quote]Please provide examples of how often
"Zero."
and of what kind?
"None."
The word of the Lord in measure of the above:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in
us.
[/quote]
The sin remains in the past as those of us who have stopped sinning by
being mindful of WDJW and doing what He wants remain sinners having
sin in our past.
Meanwhile the following is a recent explication of how born again
Christians can keep sinning though forgiven of all their sins:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?
Lying is sinning though Jimmy Alpha is forgiven.
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven
[quote]If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our
sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in
us.
My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin;
but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus
Christ the righteous; and he is the expiation for our sins, and not for
ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
Interesting that it doesn't say, 'when one sins', it says, 'if any one does
sin'. Apparently the ones who are in the 'when one sins' department declare
that everyone has to be like them. .
[/quote]
Why are you happy about the latter fact?
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b4c60eecdce69bbd?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de? |
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| guardian Snow... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:54 am |
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[quote]Why are you happy about the latter fact?
Because there is no way they determine what it is like to be in the Lord.
Michael Christ
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A statement of disconnection if I ever heard one... |
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| Michael Christ... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:04 am |
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love6 at (no spam) thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:94137a10-cba9-4cad-85e2-2be1c0b197ef at (no spam) m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
[quote]Michael Christ wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
Dr. Chung do you sin?
"No."
Not while in the Holy Spirit.
Please provide examples of how often
"Zero."
and of what kind?
"None."
The word of the Lord in measure of the above:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in
us.
The sin remains in the past as those of us who have stopped sinning by
being mindful of WDJW and doing what He wants remain sinners having
sin in our past.
Meanwhile the following is a recent explication of how born again
Christians can keep sinning though forgiven of all their sins:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?
Lying is sinning though Jimmy Alpha is forgiven.
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our
sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not
in
us.
[/quote]
Verity wrote:
[quote]My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin;
but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus
Christ the righteous; and he is the expiation for our sins, and not for
ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
[/quote]
Michael Christ wrote:
[quote]Interesting that it doesn't say, 'when one sins', it says, 'if any one
does
sin'. Apparently the ones who are in the 'when one sins' department
declare
that everyone has to be like them. .
[/quote]
Andrew wrote:
[quote]Why are you happy about the latter fact?
[/quote]
Because there is no way they determine what it is like to be in the Lord.
Michael Christ |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:52 am |
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Dr. Chung, do you sin?
If so, how often?
And of what nature?
Dr. Chung, do you confess your sins? |
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| Jimmy Alpha... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:58 am |
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sightwalker with a phd obfuscated:
[quote]Michael Christ wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
Dr. Chung do you sin?
"No."
Not while in the Holy Spirit.
Please provide examples of how often
"Zero."
and of what kind?
"None."
The word of the Lord in measure of the above:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in
us.
The sin remains in the past as those of us who have stopped sinning by
being mindful of WDJW and doing what He wants remain sinners having
sin in our past.
Meanwhile the following is a recent explication of how born again
Christians can keep sinning though forgiven of all their sins:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?
Lying is sinning though Jimmy Alpha is forgiven.
[/quote]
How does Jimmy Alpha, or his sins relate in this discourse? I'll light a
candle for you charlie...
Jimmy "playing with matches" Alpha |
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| Thommadura... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:09 pm |
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verity at (no spam) gefinden.com wrote:
[quote]Dr. Chung, do you sin?
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No one sins - because that would require a god to exist
ANd to date - no god has managed to prove that. |
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| Michael Christ... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:28 pm |
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"guardian Snow" <snowpheonix at (no spam) eck.net.au> wrote in message
news:2c85471b-63b5-4fa3-a1ae-fa46582347d3 at (no spam) m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
[quote]
Why are you happy about the latter fact?
Because there is no way they determine what it is like to be in the Lord.
Michael Christ
A statement of disconnection if I ever heard one...
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Truth doesn't always accommodate opinion.
Michael Christ |
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| guardian Snow... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:07 am |
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On Nov 5, 7:28 am, "Michael Christ" <JesusisL... at (no spam) Father.com> wrote:
[quote]"guardian Snow" <snowpheo... at (no spam) eck.net.au> wrote in message
news:2c85471b-63b5-4fa3-a1ae-fa46582347d3 at (no spam) m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
Why are you happy about the latter fact?
Because there is no way they determine what it is like to be in the Lord.
Michael Christ
A statement of disconnection if I ever heard one...
Truth doesn't always accommodate opinion.[/quote]
I find a lot of truth in that opinion:) |
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:17 am |
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Mike McClean wrote:
[quote]Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Mike McClean wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) wrote:
Dr. Chung do you sin?
"No."
Not while in the Holy Spirit.
Please provide examples of how often
"Zero."
and of what kind?
"None."
The word of the Lord in measure of the above:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in
us.
The sin remains in the past as those of us who have stopped sinning by
being mindful of WDJW and doing what He wants remain sinners having
sin in our past.
Meanwhile the following is a recent explication of how born again
Christians can keep sinning though forgiven of all their sins:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?
Lying is sinning though Jimmy Alpha is forgiven.
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our
sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not
in
us.
Verity wrote:
My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin;
but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus
Christ the righteous; and he is the expiation for our sins, and not for
ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
Michael Christ wrote:
Interesting that it doesn't say, 'when one sins', it says, 'if any one
does
sin'. Apparently the ones who are in the 'when one sins' department
declare
that everyone has to be like them. .
Andrew wrote:
Why are you happy about the latter fact?
Because there is no way they determine what it is like to be in the Lord.
[/quote]
Your delighting in evil does not bode well for your brain.
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b4c60eecdce69bbd?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de? |
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| Jimmy Alpha... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:27 am |
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chuckie baby, with a phd said:
[quote]Mike McClean wrote:
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b4c60eecdce69bbd?
May GOD renew and strengthen your brain about knowing what is right
(Jeremiah 9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to rein in your
deceitful heart (Jeremiah 17:9) which is causing you to continue
sinning.
Amen.
[/quote]
Why are you using the same lines on him as you use on *me!* Charlie, are
you so unfaithful to *me*, Jimmy Alpha that you can't find new passages
for Mic McClean?
Jimmy "feeling soiled" Alpha |
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Dr. Chung, do you sin?
If so:
Of what kind?
How often?
Do you confess them? |
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