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| PeterD... |
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:26:41 -0800, Mycelium
<mycelium at (no spam) thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:03:30 -0600, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
The renter can also "thank God" for the privilege of paying property
taxes, by proxy through rent to the owner.
Renters are the most ripped off citizens this country has ever had.
ESPECIALLY now.
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Care to explain? |
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| flipper... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:49 pm |
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:12:24 -0600, John Fields
<jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:00:51 -0600, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:26:19 -0600, John Fields
jfields at (no spam) austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:49:52 -0600, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:15:44 -0500, "Garberstreet Electronics"
willy46pa at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
"flipper" <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote in message
news:7gj3f5d4gujv2v9gqdbgn2sehg5ecltuus at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:55:26 -0500,
willy46pa at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
"amdx" <amdx at (no spam) knology.net> wrote in message
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"Phil Hobbs" <pcdhSpamMeSenseless at (no spam) electrooptical.net> wrote
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Oppie wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon at (no spam) My-Web-Site.com
wrote in message news:v3u1f5dir35ilp8ajtr04m33nrroenb1e2 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Hee! Hee! Hee!
If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
Talk about hope and change... ;-)
...Jim Thompson
We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive
(Westchester, NY).
Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken by
dems.
One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by the
courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me
suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. A
big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the next
week.
http://www.lohud.com/
Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised
ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your home,
you should not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for
the rest of your life) Makes me mad just thinking about it!
Mike
Read what you yourself wrote. You "pay for your home" and are then
taxed for the right to live on the property, or ground it sets on.
Check out rental costs on similar properties in the same area, and
then quit complaining and thank God that you have it so good.
Bill
The renter can also "thank God" for the privilege of paying
property taxes, by proxy through rent to the owner.
Right now, I "thank God" for a place to live that I can afford,
regardless of whether what I pay helps defray the landlord's cost
to own the place or not.
Bill
That's nice but the issue was taxes.
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You've never seen a thread change streams in mid-horse???
JF
Yes, I have but when one begins with "read what you yourself wrote
(about taxes)" followed by "quit complaining" then they're talking
about taxes too regardless of doing a zippity do da whirligig around
it.
To wit, if taxes were lower then more people might "thank God" they
could afford a home or spend less on rent, like maybe enough to send
their kid(s) to college, and if taxes were higher more people might
'thank God' they can't afford a home or pay more for rent, like maybe
so much they can't afford to send their kid(s) to college.
I just find the "thank God" government hasn't taxed you out of house
and home yet, so quit complaining, to be a specious argument. Taxes
are an unfortunate necessity (the degree of which being debatable),
not something to be 'prized' and sought after, Gomez Addams (Season 2,
Episode 5) notwithstanding.
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Actually, it should be: "I just find the: "thank God government hasn't
taxed you out of house and home yet, so quit complaining", to be a
specious argument."
Even better: "I just find: "thank God government hasn't taxed you out of
house and home yet, so quit complaining", to be a specious argument.
The best, I think, would be: "I just find: "Thank God the government
hasn't taxed you out of house and home yet, so quit complaining", to be
a specious argument."
JF
[/quote]
Thanks.
I take it you were able to glean the meaning anyway. |
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| Mycelium... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:30 pm |
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:34:48 -0500, PeterD <peter2 at (no spam) hipson.net> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:26:41 -0800, Mycelium
mycelium at (no spam) thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:03:30 -0600, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
The renter can also "thank God" for the privilege of paying property
taxes, by proxy through rent to the owner.
Renters are the most ripped off citizens this country has ever had.
ESPECIALLY now.
Care to explain?
[/quote]
It is pretty blatantly obvious. Unless you are a total retard, you
shouldn't need an explanation. |
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| Mycelium... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:52 pm |
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:48:16 -0600, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:26:41 -0800, Mycelium
mycelium at (no spam) thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:03:30 -0600, flipper <flipper at (no spam) fish.net> wrote:
The renter can also "thank God" for the privilege of paying property
taxes, by proxy through rent to the owner.
Renters are the most ripped off citizens this country has ever had.
ESPECIALLY now.
And what did Obama do to renters he hasn't done to everyone else?
[/quote]
Who said anything about Obama in my post. I am talking about since the
sixties. Property developers have been sucking away Americans' wallets
for decades. Simple observation of the graphs tells all.
What graphs, you ask? Look at wages over the DOT job list table from
the 50s through the new millennia, and look at other things like water
and sewage, and trash hauling and DOCTOR WAGES and RENT rates, etc. etc.
etc.
When I graduated from high school in '78, the guys that graduated the
year before and the year before paid like $250 a month for a 2 br
apartment, AND they were able to sock away $100 a week, AND the gas and
electric was only about $12 a month. THAT was back when $100 was a LOT of
money.
THAT was just from one week's pay. There were three more after that.
My dad paid less than a week's pay for the mortgage on a 5 br house,
and there were three weeks left for mom to buy 7 bags or more full of
groceries with, and sock away a bunch for weekends in Indiana, and
Christmas, etc.
Now, a "landlord" gets over 3 weeks pay a month from one of these kids,
and the gas and electric gets the rest, and there is hardly anything left
for food.
It is OK though, since most of today's gang boy retard kids are all on
Meth.
[quote]Property owners that let out their properties, and developers that make
apt complexes they then fail to maintain worth a fuck are the biggest
thieves in the country.
Thieves come in all shapes and sizes but I agree, landlords should
maintain the property.
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You should do stand up.
I have seen outlets that will not even hold a plug, and outlets that
would not accept a three-wire due to having a pin broke off in it. 1/2
inch gaps under entry doors with no storm door. Wall mounted heating
units that have had their gratings painted with house enamel that caught
fire when the unit was first used, and put cyanide gas throughout the
room for days on end, when high temp, baked-on enamel is what should have
been used.
Also, if one mentions any such item, it certainly gets upgraded, at
minimal/minimized cost and quality (towel rods that bend when a fly
lights on them, etc), the upgrade includes a rent increase that insures
that the cost gets covered several times over and beyond.
The high rent coffers are what they are supposed to use to do any
maintenance from, and it NOT "jack the rent". Every little excuse.
The main one is the bastard thinking he deserves a new Cadillac every
other year, and that I should pay for it.
THEY are who deserves a depressed economy. THEY are the ones that
should be rent controlled, or be forced to put back some of what WE give.
Fuck the lawyers... Kill the fucking landlords.
[quote]On the other hand, I take it you've never let out a property to see it
virtually destroyed by the suddenly vanished never to be seen again
renters.
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Any retard that doesn't vet his or her proposed tenant deserves whatever
he or she gets. Also, that is what the security deposit, which can be 2X
the rent, is for.
Also, renting for a reasonable rate will usually result in civil
relationships between lessor and lessee.
[quote]As I said, thieves come in all shapes and sizes.
[/quote]
I think all you stupid allegory turkeys are... turkeys. There is
something you steal. Mainly- thinking that you are funny, when such is
not always the case, and in many cases, if ever. |
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| robb... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:21 pm |
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"amdx" <amdx at (no spam) knology.net> wrote in message
news:30f63$4af1b8dd$d8baf3ed$8106 at (no spam) KNOLOGY.NET...
[quote]
My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your
home, you
should
not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for the
rest of your
life)
Makes me mad just thinking about it!
Mike
[/quote]
i like to think of it as land rental.
an effective gov. method of reminding people they do not really
own the land they are just renting it, seeing as they can evict
you from it whether your home owner member ship fee is paid for
fully or not.
robb |
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| UltimatePatriot... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:00 am |
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:21:56 -0500, "robb" <some at (no spam) where.on.net> wrote:
[quote]
"amdx" <amdx at (no spam) knology.net> wrote in message
news:30f63$4af1b8dd$d8baf3ed$8106 at (no spam) KNOLOGY.NET...
My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your
home, you
should
not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for the
rest of your
life)
Makes me mad just thinking about it!
Mike
i like to think of it as land rental.
an effective gov. method of reminding people they do not really
own the land they are just renting it, seeing as they can evict
you from it whether your home owner member ship fee is paid for
fully or not.
robb
[/quote]
HOAs are yet another rip off of the American people. |
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| don... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:13 am |
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robb wrote:
[quote]"amdx" <amdx at (no spam) knology.net> wrote in message
news:30f63$4af1b8dd$d8baf3ed$8106 at (no spam) KNOLOGY.NET...
My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your
home, you
should
not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for the
rest of your
life)
Makes me mad just thinking about it!
Mike
i like to think of it as land rental.
an effective gov. method of reminding people they do not really
own the land they are just renting it, seeing as they can evict
you from it whether your home owner member ship fee is paid for
fully or not.
robb
Its not rental, it a fee to keep the rif-raf out of your property.[/quote]
Its cheaper then hiring a private security company.
Its cheaper then hiring a private fire department.
And there is no competition to drive the price up.
don |
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| robb... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:06 pm |
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<don> wrote in message
news:1LadnRT34v7n_GvXnZ2dnUVZ_ghi4p2d at (no spam) forethought.net...
[quote]robb wrote:
"amdx" <amdx at (no spam) knology.net> wrote in message
news:30f63$4af1b8dd$d8baf3ed$8106 at (no spam) KNOLOGY.NET...
My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for
your
home, you
should
not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for
the
rest of your
life)
Makes me mad just thinking about it!
Mike
i like to think of it as land rental.
an effective gov. method of reminding people they do not
really
own the land they are just renting it, seeing as they can
evict
you from it whether your home owner member ship fee is paid
for
fully or not.
robb
Its not rental, it a fee to keep the rif-raf out of your
property.
Its cheaper then hiring a private security company.
Its cheaper then hiring a private fire department.
And there is no competition to drive the price up.
don
[/quote]
isn't that called extortion ?
the prices go up all the time. The gov was blinded, greedly
watching the value of the homes rise during the bubble to raise
the rent accordingly.
the *customer* quickly becomes the rif-raf if they can not pay
robb |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:08 pm |
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On Nov 4, 5:48 pm, "amdx" <a... at (no spam) knology.net> wrote:
[quote]"Garberstreet Electronics" wrote:
Read what you yourself wrote. You "pay for your home" and are then taxed
for the right to live on the property, or ground it sets on.
Check out rental costs on similar properties in the same area, and then
quit complaining and thank God that you have it so good.
Bill
Bill, I don't get your point, my wife and I have had a lower middle
income, we lived frugally and saved our money. I know people
that made a lot more money but have a lot less, that's there problem not
mine.
Why should I check rental prices, I own my home. But I have to keep paying
the government, and so do you, if you rent.
I'll complain if I want, and thank who or whatever I want.
Cash for clunkers;
What a stupid idea, made a blip in sales and a downturn after demand was
used up,
now you have to pay more for a used car cause they destroyed 600,000 cars.
Stimulus money;
Seems what has been spent has went into making more (saving) government
jobs.
That's just what we need! (sarcasm)
Bailing out GM;
I mean paying the union for votes.
The investors should have gotten paid not the union.
They should have went bankrupt, and reduced their cost of production.
Welfare;
I know a healthy adult male useing food stamps.
Did I mention he also has a camera phone that has texting and
an internet connection.
[/quote]
Ad in seen in two local papers: "Get food stamps? Get a free cell
phone!" From a govm't agency--think it was Health and Human Services.
True story.
--
Cheers,
James Arthur |
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| Richard the Dreaded Libertarian... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:37 pm |
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:13:14 -0700, don wrote:
[quote]robb wrote:
"amdx" <amdx at (no spam) knology.net> wrote in message
news:30f63$4af1b8dd$d8baf3ed$8106 at (no spam) KNOLOGY.NET...
My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your
home, you
should
not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for the
rest of your
life)
Makes me mad just thinking about it!
i like to think of it as land rental. an effective gov. method of
reminding people they do not really own the land they are just renting
it, seeing as they can evict you from it whether your home owner member
ship fee is paid for fully or not.
Its not rental, it a fee to keep the rif-raf out of your property.
Its cheaper then hiring a private security company. Its cheaper then
hiring a private fire department.
And there is no competition to drive the price up.
[/quote]
In this day and age, how can there be people who don't grasp the simple
fact that competition drives prices _DOWN_?
Of course, all sane people know that taxation is theft.
Thanks,
Rich |
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| Joel Koltner... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:18 pm |
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<dagmargoodboat at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c9a8b900-3812-44e2-87c2-b8c3d03c89c8 at (no spam) j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
[quote]Ad in seen in two local papers: "Get food stamps? Get a free cell
phone!" From a govm't agency--think it was Health and Human Services.
[/quote]
The well-intentioned reasoning behind that is that it's probably a lot easier
to get a job if you have a cell phone.
How many of those receiving food stamps are good folks who are "down on their
luck" vs. welfare kings and queens is, of course, an eternal debate, so it's
difficult to ascertain how useful such a program really is.
Cell phones are the next best thing to free these days anyway for the basic
models -- it's the montly cost that will get you: It's difficult to find plans
that are less than $30-$40/month, which is still a significant chunk of change
to some people. |
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| Michael A. Terrell... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:29 pm |
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Joel Koltner wrote:
[quote]
dagmargoodboat at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c9a8b900-3812-44e2-87c2-b8c3d03c89c8 at (no spam) j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
Ad in seen in two local papers: "Get food stamps? Get a free cell
phone!" From a govm't agency--think it was Health and Human Services.
The well-intentioned reasoning behind that is that it's probably a lot easier
to get a job if you have a cell phone.
How many of those receiving food stamps are good folks who are "down on their
luck" vs. welfare kings and queens is, of course, an eternal debate, so it's
difficult to ascertain how useful such a program really is.
Cell phones are the next best thing to free these days anyway for the basic
models -- it's the montly cost that will get you: It's difficult to find plans
that are less than $30-$40/month, which is still a significant chunk of change
to some people.
[/quote]
Its an extension of the old 'Lifeline phone service' program. That is
basic, local only service for under $15 a month. It doesn't include any
options, and if you want anything added, you can't get 'Lifeline'. What
they do is waive all the federal & state taxes on basic local phone
service. Here in Florida, that brings the price down to about $12.50 a
month so you can make local calls, call your doctor or 911. The limited
cell phone service isn't much better.
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The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary! |
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| Jim Thompson... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:35 pm |
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:18:49 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]dagmargoodboat at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c9a8b900-3812-44e2-87c2-b8c3d03c89c8 at (no spam) j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
Ad in seen in two local papers: "Get food stamps? Get a free cell
phone!" From a govm't agency--think it was Health and Human Services.
The well-intentioned reasoning behind that is that it's probably a lot easier
to get a job if you have a cell phone.
[/quote]
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
[quote]
How many of those receiving food stamps are good folks who are "down on their
luck" vs. welfare kings and queens is, of course, an eternal debate, so it's
difficult to ascertain how useful such a program really is.
Cell phones are the next best thing to free these days anyway for the basic
models -- it's the montly cost that will get you: It's difficult to find plans
that are less than $30-$40/month, which is still a significant chunk of change
to some people.
[/quote]
...Jim Thompson
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| Joel Koltner... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:35 pm |
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Thanks Michael, I didn't know there was such a service available (for POTS nor
cell phones).
---Joel |
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| Joel Koltner... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:37 pm |
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon at (no spam) My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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[quote]"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
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So I've heard.
But we all know you're a very charitable guy, Jim, you're just very choosy
about who you donate money to!  |
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