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| 1Z... |
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On 5 Nov, 07:02, turtoni <turt... at (no spam) fastmail.net> wrote:
[quote]I concede Tim that the market is always mixed and always will be and
always should be, but there are dangerous idea's that have obviously
shown us how fragile things can get and personally I'd rather continue
to model what have historically been successful systems.
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So would I. Experiments in deregulation always lead to problems.
The well-regulated, democratic, mixed economies of the western world
consistently
top the league tables of quality of life. |
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| 1Z... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:06 am |
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On 5 Nov, 09:44, "Giga" <"Giga" <just(removetheseandaddmatthe end)
ho... at (no spam) yahoo.co> wrote:
[quote]"Don Stockbauer" <don.stockba... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:506d5f75-0ccf-4a56-acec-e68caa5f5bf7 at (no spam) k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 4, 5:02 am, "Giga" <"Giga" <just(removetheseandaddmatthe end)
ho... at (no spam) yahoo.co> wrote:
"turtoni" <turt... at (no spam) fastmail.net> wrote in message
news:hcqq5o$61c$1 at (no spam) aioe.org...
Here's what you'll live in:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Street_of_terraced_housing.jpg
Here's what you'll drive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Escort_Mk5b.jpg
Woot!!!
I bet that looks pretty good to somebody living in a corrugated iron shed
surrounded by sewage, using their rusty old three wheeled bike to go round
15 hours a day to collect recyclable rubbbish in the pouring Philippines
typhoons.
Cybernetic socialism wouldn't be all that bad.
[/quote]
I have news for you: computers are programmed by humans..
Or at least, by programmers, who are often a fairly close
approximation. |
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| Errol... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:17 am |
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On Nov 5, 9:53 am, Michael Gordge <mikegor... at (no spam) xtra.co.nz> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 5, 3:51 pm, Errol <vs.er... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Now piss off
Crying wont help ewe, still waiting for ewe to explain how preceding
the nouns 'fact & truth' with the adjectives eternal and absolute
changes anything at all about the meaning of fact and truth.
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Shrug, go ask Nietzsche ewe dumb twat
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Still waiting for ewe to explain why ewe brain dead Kantian clowns
keep demanding / insisting for something that does not exist (next
week - future) to be a requirement of fact and truth.
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Hint: It's too complicated for you. Forgeddit and stick to A is A
without accounting for the passage of time. You could be the only
Kantian clown on earth who believes that. |
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| Giga... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:44 am |
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"Don Stockbauer" <don.stockbauer at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:506d5f75-0ccf-4a56-acec-e68caa5f5bf7 at (no spam) k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 4, 5:02 am, "Giga" <"Giga" <just(removetheseandaddmatthe end)
ho... at (no spam) yahoo.co> wrote:
[quote]"turtoni" <turt... at (no spam) fastmail.net> wrote in message
news:hcqq5o$61c$1 at (no spam) aioe.org...
Here's what you'll live in:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Street_of_terraced_housing.jpg
Here's what you'll drive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Escort_Mk5b.jpg
Woot!!!
I bet that looks pretty good to somebody living in a corrugated iron shed
surrounded by sewage, using their rusty old three wheeled bike to go round
15 hours a day to collect recyclable rubbbish in the pouring Philippines
typhoons.
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Cybernetic socialism wouldn't be all that bad.
=Whats that? A planned economy but planned by some superduper computer? I
think it would still be better to have a free economy, perhaps with the
supercomp helping with redistribution etc, i.e. taking over from beurocrats
rather than entrepreneurs. |
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| Tim... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:02 am |
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On Nov 5, 2:58 am, Michael Gordge <mikegor... at (no spam) xtra.co.nz> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 5, 2:11 pm, Tim <tbees... at (no spam) aci.on.ca> wrote:
P.S. Bush was conservative.
Shrug, he also went to church, so what?
The subject is cronyizm and how the anti-human leftist conservative
Obmamammama has given trillions of dollars which was stolen from the
poor and the productive to his mates in the car and banking
businesses.
MG
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"leftist conservative"? You back on the bottle? And the subject is
"Ain't Socialism grand", do try and pay attention. |
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| Andy F.... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:53 am |
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| Giga... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:50 am |
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"1Z" <peterdjones at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
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[quote]On 5 Nov, 09:44, "Giga" <"Giga" <just(removetheseandaddmatthe end)
ho... at (no spam) yahoo.co> wrote:
"Don Stockbauer" <don.stockba... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:506d5f75-0ccf-4a56-acec-e68caa5f5bf7 at (no spam) k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 4, 5:02 am, "Giga" <"Giga" <just(removetheseandaddmatthe end)
ho... at (no spam) yahoo.co> wrote:
"turtoni" <turt... at (no spam) fastmail.net> wrote in message
news:hcqq5o$61c$1 at (no spam) aioe.org...
Here's what you'll live in:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Street_of_terraced_housing.jpg
Here's what you'll drive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Escort_Mk5b.jpg
Woot!!!
I bet that looks pretty good to somebody living in a corrugated iron
shed
surrounded by sewage, using their rusty old three wheeled bike to go
round
15 hours a day to collect recyclable rubbbish in the pouring
Philippines
typhoons.
Cybernetic socialism wouldn't be all that bad.
I have news for you: computers are programmed by humans..
Or at least, by programmers, who are often a fairly close
approximation.
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lol : ) |
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| turtoni... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:09 pm |
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| turtoni... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:17 pm |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:16 pm |
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On Nov 5, 7:17 pm, Errol <vs.er... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Shrug, go ask Nietzsche..............very rude words snipped
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Funny how when ewe first posted his crap ewe were full of ideas as to
what the idiot was on about, but now ewe want to pretend ewe have no
idea, why is that?
Or are ewe saying that you have learnt, when in a hole to stop
digging.
[quote]stick to A is A
without accounting for the passage of time.
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Hey dopey, the only "passage of time" anyone can ever "account" for is
the time which has been -- A is A --
Hey dopey, "next week" does not exist in reality and therefore can not
be used as a requirement of fact and or truth, why? Because facts and
truth correspond to reality and not even your god Nietzsche's dopey
idea of using preceding adjectives of "absolute" and "eternal" can
change anything about the reality of facts and truth -- A is A --
MG |
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| Michael Gordge... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:19 pm |
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On Nov 6, 1:02 am, Tim <tbees... at (no spam) aci.on.ca> wrote:
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"leftist conservative"? You back on the bottle?
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If you seriously beleive that there is any difference between right
and left wing conservatives then it is you who is doing the drinking.
[quote]And the subject is
"Ain't Socialism grand",
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Which is a piss-take.
MG |
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| Errol... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:25 pm |
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On Nov 6, 8:16 am, Michael Gordge <mikegor... at (no spam) xtra.co.nz> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 5, 7:17 pm, Errol <vs.er... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Shrug, go ask Nietzsche..............very rude words snipped
Funny how when ewe first posted his crap ewe were full of ideas as to
what the idiot was on about, but now ewe want to pretend ewe have no
idea, why is that?
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I've learnt that trying to communicate with you is like trying to
communicate with an autistic cuttlefish. You have no interest in
debate or discourse, you just try to slam your square pegs (randian
sound bites) into whatever shape hole there happens to be.
I am done with you now. |
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| Michael Gordge... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:42 pm |
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On Nov 6, 3:25 pm, Errol <vs.er... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]You have no interest in
debate or discourse,
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If you had any interest or desire to debate or have discourse then you
would not bother with the above off topic crap and instead you would
have taken the opportunity I offered you to explain how something that
does not exist ("next week") can be used to validate fact and truth.
MG |
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| Tim... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:12 pm |
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On Nov 6, 1:19 am, Michael Gordge <mikegor... at (no spam) xtra.co.nz> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 6, 1:02 am, Tim <tbees... at (no spam) aci.on.ca> wrote:
"leftist conservative"? You back on the bottle?
If you seriously beleive that there is any difference between right
and left wing conservatives then it is you who is doing the drinking.
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All conservatives are right wing. There is no such thing as a left
wing conservative in contemporary political science. Left wing
conservative is a category mistake. A is A, remember?
[quote]And the subject is
"Ain't Socialism grand",
Which is a piss-take.
MG
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So "cronyizm"[sic] is a piss-take? A is A, remember? |
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| Michael Gordge... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:50 pm |
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On Nov 6, 4:12 pm, Tim <tbees... at (no spam) aci.on.ca> wrote:
[quote]All conservatives are right wing.
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Shrug, you are not up with the times, there are millions of
conservatives who promote the idea of state theft (tax / socialism /
statism) and who demand human individuals sacrifice themselves for
bogus glories, you may like to believe there is a fundamental
difference between left and right wing, there's not.
The only difference between left and right wing politics are arguments
over who and how much to steal from and who and how much to give the
procedes of theft to.
Both left and right wing politics (and whether or not they call
themselves conservative matters not a flying fuck, other than any form
of conservation is evil / anti-human) both left and right politics
demand sacrifice of the human individual's liberty for bogus glories.
The bogus glory of the left is their nauseating nasal chant, "for the
greater good" the bogus glory of the right is their equally as
nauseating nasal chant "for efficiency", the sacrifice of the
individual's liberty, that they borth demand, is identical in
principle / in fundamentals.
The weird thing, conventional left wingers generally warm far more to
libertarian principles than conventional right wingers ever do.
[quote]So "cronyizm"[sic] is a piss-take?
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"Aint socialism grand" is the piss-take.
MG |
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