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PeterD...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:59 am

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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:25:30 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl at (no spam) cruzio.com>
wrote:

[quote]On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy
macy at (no spam) california.com> wrote:

As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an Epson
C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet.

I retired my HP LaserJet 5m several months ago.
[/quote]
Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ
II) sometimes. The printer is the only straight path printer and will
print on 80 lb card stock for bin lables! Can't do that with my high
speed laser printers, so the Apple still has a job.

[quote]It's basically a
LaserJet 4 Plus in a nicer box and faster raster engine. 600 dpi is
kinda crude as most anything you buy these days will do 1200 dpi. My
main complaint is that the power save feature didn't really turn off
the printer. It sucked power all the time. Still, it was cheap,
reliable, fairly easy to maintain, but slow, crude, a power hog, and a
bad habit of paper jamming at the back rollers. I replaced it with an
HP Laserjet 2200dtn (double sided, 2 trays, network card, 1200dpi) and
am living happily ever after.

I also had an Epson Stylus C60 for a few days. It leaked ink all over
the place, no matter what I did to prevent it. Brand new, with
supplied ink carts. I later ran into the same problem with a
customers C60. I gave up. It's not a common problem, but I seem to
find it all too often.
http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/13409[/quote]

William Sommerwerck...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:56 am

Guest

[quote]Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ
II) sometimes.
[/quote]
Stop, you're making me cry. I had an LJ II, then a III, both with PostScript
cartridges. I'm still using the 4M I bought over 15 years ago.

Robert Macy...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:17 am

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On Nov 3, 7:59 am, Jeff Liebermann <je... at (no spam) cruzio.com> wrote:
[quote]On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:56:17 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"

grizzledgee... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ
II) sometimes.

Stop, you're making me cry. I had an LJ II, then a III, both with PostScript
cartridges. I'm still using the 4M I bought over 15 years ago.

About 3 years ago, I discovered that only a few of my customers were
still running HP LJII and LJIII printers. So, I cleaned up the few I
had in storage and tried to sell them. No takers. So, I tried to
give them away. No takers. So, I recycled the mess, keeping only the
repair parts collection and toner carts. I did the same with HP LJ4
and LJ5 printers about 6 months ago. The office and storage space was
costing me more than the printers were worth. I even left them by the
roadway with a "free" sign, and found that someone had added a extra
Apple LW2 printer to the pile.

Most of my customers are currently using HP LJ4000/4100 or 4200/4300
series printers. They have their own collection of problems, but are
much faster and more economical to operate (16,000 pages per toner
cart on the 4300). The HP LJ4200 will do 16 to 53 lb paper, so 80 lb
won't work. Speed, smaller footprint, and not having to listen to the
fan cycling all day are the main advantages. Multiple trays, double
sided printing, ethernet, and web admin are other benefits.

For the home, I like the HP LJ2200dtn or LJ2000dn printer.
http://reviews.cnet.com/laser-printers/hp-laserjet-2200dtn/4505-3159_...
Available used for about $220 with all options or $100 stripped.

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Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
[/quote]
Thanks for the recommendation.

Jeff Liebermann...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:59 am

Guest

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:56:17 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

[quote]Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ
II) sometimes.

Stop, you're making me cry. I had an LJ II, then a III, both with PostScript
cartridges. I'm still using the 4M I bought over 15 years ago.
[/quote]
About 3 years ago, I discovered that only a few of my customers were
still running HP LJII and LJIII printers. So, I cleaned up the few I
had in storage and tried to sell them. No takers. So, I tried to
give them away. No takers. So, I recycled the mess, keeping only the
repair parts collection and toner carts. I did the same with HP LJ4
and LJ5 printers about 6 months ago. The office and storage space was
costing me more than the printers were worth. I even left them by the
roadway with a "free" sign, and found that someone had added a extra
Apple LW2 printer to the pile.

Most of my customers are currently using HP LJ4000/4100 or 4200/4300
series printers. They have their own collection of problems, but are
much faster and more economical to operate (16,000 pages per toner
cart on the 4300). The HP LJ4200 will do 16 to 53 lb paper, so 80 lb
won't work. Speed, smaller footprint, and not having to listen to the
fan cycling all day are the main advantages. Multiple trays, double
sided printing, ethernet, and web admin are other benefits.

For the home, I like the HP LJ2200dtn or LJ2000dn printer.
<http://reviews.cnet.com/laser-printers/hp-laserjet-2200dtn/4505-3159_7-5086439.html>
Available used for about $220 with all options or $100 stripped.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl at (no spam) cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

William Sommerwerck...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:26 am

Guest

[quote]About 3 years ago, I discovered that only a few of my customers
were still running HP LJII and LJIII printers. So, I cleaned up the
few I had in storage and tried to sell them. No takers. So, I tried
to give them away. No takers.
[/quote]
Anyone who wouldn't take a working 4M for free is nuts. You'd be getting a
high-quality PostScript printer for the cost of a new cartridge.

[quote]So, I recycled the mess, keeping only the repair parts collection
and toner carts. I did the same with HP LJ4 and LJ5 printers about
6 months ago. The office and storage space was costing me more
than the printers were worth. I even left them by the roadway with a
"free" sign, and found that someone had added a extra Apple LW2
printer to the pile.
[/quote]
The 4M is a great printer. I recently printed out a discount coupon with
extremely small fonts (they had to be around 2pt) and the quality was
amazing.

They go for very little on eBay. I doubt you could find a new printer that
good, for that price. The only problem is that not nearly as fast as
"modern" printer.

Robert Macy...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:03 pm

Guest

On Nov 3, 1:48 pm, Baron <baron.nos... at (no spam) linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
[quote]Robert Macy wrote:
What is the best priced, high contrast printer out there? Of course
long lived.

Apart from the DJ500 my other two printers are both Samsung Laser. One
is the ML1440 and the other is a MCX4200 multifunction printer copier.
All three are fully supported by Linux.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
[/quote]
Thanks for that recommendation.

Wow, Korea really knows how to make products. That makes 3 Samsung
products [printer, phone, and washing machine] and 1 Genesis Coupe
[auto] I'd like to buy. As soon as I have the money. But, others
must be buying, so K's economy ought to be doing well, eh?

Baron...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:48 pm

Guest

Robert Macy wrote:

[quote]On Nov 2, 1:50Â pm, Baron <baron.nos... at (no spam) linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
Robert Macy wrote:
On Nov 2, 12:59Â pm, Baron <baron.nos... at (no spam) linuxmaniac.nospam.net
wrote:
Robert Macy wrote:
Forgot how to print a 'test page' Â not the one from MS, but the
one built in that tests all the jets.

Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual?

Operator's and/or Service?

Wow ! Â Someone else who still has & uses a Deskjet 500. Â I've had
mine from new just as they came out. Â Must be getting on for 25
years or so now.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Yes! Â Bought it new, also. Â Still has the highest contrast ratio
for me.

Agreed ! Â Very good print quality. Â Pity the ink carts are not
available anymore. Â I've been refilling mine for several years now.

I did run across somebody [in TX?] that refurbishes them for sale,
but they wanted more than $260 at a time when most printers are
going for $40, didn't make sense to get another one. Â Instead, I
just waited.

Quite ! Â I wouldn't pay more than $10 or $15 for one, particularly
when they get thrown out by firms clearing the IT stock room.

As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an
Epson C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet.

Watch the Epson ! Â The ink dries very rapidly in the print heads and
they are part of the printer and not the cartridge. Â I've seen new
demonstration machines dumped because the ink has dried in the print
heads.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Thanks for the 'heads up'

I have not been happy with it. Cartridge dries out way too fast.
Have to use everyday
[/quote]
Thats about the only way to get good service life out of it.

[quote], or waste ink to recharge, Wait, using everyday
wastes ink, too. So no way to gain. Plus, the cartridges [the ones
easy to get, cost $30 to $50!!!] Isn't that the price of a desk top
printer?
[/quote]
Ouch ! C60 carts can be had very cheaply in the UK along with a chip
reseting tool.

[quote]So,I'm back to "that's a niceprinter, but can't use it. "

What is the best priced, high contrast printer out there? Of course
long lived.
[/quote]
Apart from the DJ500 my other two printers are both Samsung Laser. One
is the ML1440 and the other is a MCX4200 multifunction printer copier.
All three are fully supported by Linux.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Baron...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:58 pm

Guest

David Nebenzahl wrote:

[quote]On 11/2/2009 12:59 PM Baron spake thus:

Robert Macy wrote:

Forgot how to print a 'test page' not the one from MS, but the one
built in that tests all the jets.

Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual?

Operator's and/or Service?

Wow ! Someone else who still has & uses a Deskjet 500. I've had
mine
from new just as they came out. Must be getting on for 25 years or
so now.

So can you tell me how your printer compares to mine, a DeskJet 932C?
I have the sneaking suspicion that mine is not as good, but really
have no idea.

[/quote]
Its practically the same printer ! But the 500 only has a single black
(colour, if you change the ink) cartridge. The 932C I think has USB as
well as parallel port inputs. As far as print quality is concerned
yours should be better having 600 dpi as against 300 dpi for the DJ500
plus colour. The DJ500C could do colour but you had to change
cartridges. I belive it was the DJ520 that had both black and colour
cartridges in the same carriage.
The DJ500 also had an RS232 serial port as well. Very handy when
attached to a "Netware PS" !

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Baron...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:03 pm

Guest

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

[quote]On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:03:30 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy
macy at (no spam) california.com> wrote:

Forgot how to print a 'test page' not the one from MS, but the one
built in that tests all the jets.

Press FONT and RESET, or LOAD EJECT while turning on the printer.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=bpd07098

Digging a bit deeper:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=bpd01364
Print a self-test page. Turn the printer off and hold the Font button
down on the printer's Control Panel; then turn the printer on and
release the Font button after the printer picks up paper.

Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual?
Operator's and/or Service?

Both.
http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/specials/manuals/all/S33
or:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170288242398
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110442312836

I have a customer that still uses his Deskjet 500. I must have
refilled his 5 black cartridges at least 10 times each and it never
clogs. The trick is to refill it BEFORE you run out of ink. For some
reason, he likes the printer and insists that I keep it running, even
though I have better, faster, and cheaper alternatives. I don't know
what he sees in this printer. Maybe it's the boxy look.

[/quote]
Absolutely reliable, easy to load paper, easy to repair, built in shelf
to stand your paper punch, stapler etc on. Smile

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Baron...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:08 pm

Guest

PeterD wrote:

[quote]On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:25:30 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl at (no spam) cruzio.com
wrote:

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:44 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy
macy at (no spam) california.com> wrote:

As a result of waiting, I've been given an HP LaserJet 5 and an Epson
C60 [color printer], so still don't need another yet.

I retired my HP LaserJet 5m several months ago.

Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ
II) sometimes. The printer is the only straight path printer and will
print on 80 lb card stock for bin lables! Can't do that with my high
speed laser printers, so the Apple still has a job.

[/quote]
Wasn't that made by HP for Apple ?
The only straight paper path ink jet that I know of was the HP DJ400,
DJ420. That would do 80lb card stock.

[quote]
It's basically a
LaserJet 4 Plus in a nicer box and faster raster engine. 600 dpi is
kinda crude as most anything you buy these days will do 1200 dpi. My
main complaint is that the power save feature didn't really turn off
the printer. It sucked power all the time. Still, it was cheap,
reliable, fairly easy to maintain, but slow, crude, a power hog, and a
bad habit of paper jamming at the back rollers. I replaced it with an
HP Laserjet 2200dtn (double sided, 2 trays, network card, 1200dpi) and
am living happily ever after.

I also had an Epson Stylus C60 for a few days. It leaked ink all over
the place, no matter what I did to prevent it. Brand new, with
supplied ink carts. I later ran into the same problem with a
customers C60. I gave up. It's not a common problem, but I seem to
find it all too often.
http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/13409
[/quote]
--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Jeff Liebermann...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:28 pm

Guest

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:08:26 +0000, Baron
<baron.nospam at (no spam) linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

[quote]Heck, I've got you beat: I still use an Apple Laserwriter II (HP LJ
II) sometimes. The printer is the only straight path printer and will
print on 80 lb card stock for bin lables! Can't do that with my high
speed laser printers, so the Apple still has a job.

Wasn't that made by HP for Apple ?
[/quote]
No. The Apple LaserWriter II NT/NTX was made by Canon for Apple. The
major SX series mechanical parts are identical to the HP LJII. The DC
contoller board is the same. However, the plastic case, status
lights, button, i/o, and image processor board (controller) are all
very different.
<http://www.printerworks.com/Catalogs/SX-Catalog/SX-AppLW-IINT.html>

[quote]The only straight paper path ink jet that I know of was the HP DJ400,
DJ420. That would do 80lb card stock.
[/quote]
Any and all inkjet plotters have a straight paper path. If you want
to print on cardboard, an inkjet plotter is the way to do it. However,
they tend to be more expensive than an ordinary inkjet printer.

Most (not all) inkjet printers that claim to print on photo grade
paper, will have a fairly straight paper path. It's usually done by
removing a panel in the rear of the printer. They need a staight
through path because thick photo paper just hates to be curled around
a roller. The clay coated surface will sometimes crack on really
thick and glossy photo paper.

Drivel: Here's a person that prints on balsa wood with an inkjet:
<http://www.parmodels.com/Printed%20Balsa/Printed_Balsa.htm>
and aluminum sheet:
<http://marytaylorart.com/FAQ/inkAID.htm>

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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

David Nebenzahl...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:42 pm

Guest

On 11/3/2009 1:58 PM Baron spake thus:

[quote]David Nebenzahl wrote:

So can you tell me how your printer compares to mine, a DeskJet 932C?
I have the sneaking suspicion that mine is not as good, but really
have no idea.

Its practically the same printer ! But the 500 only has a single black
(colour, if you change the ink) cartridge. The 932C I think has USB as
well as parallel port inputs. As far as print quality is concerned
yours should be better having 600 dpi as against 300 dpi for the DJ500
plus colour. The DJ500C could do colour but you had to change
cartridges. I belive it was the DJ520 that had both black and colour
cartridges in the same carriage.
[/quote]
Yes, the 932C has USB, which was how I was using it. Didn't know it was
that good; I got it because it was about the cheapest thing available at
the time (ca. 2000).

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blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?

- harvested from Usenet

AZ Nomad...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:21 pm

Guest

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:03:30 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy <macy at (no spam) california.com> wrote:
[quote]Forgot how to print a 'test page' not the one from MS, but the one
built in that tests all the jets.

Also, anyone out there have a DeskJet 500 Manual?

Operator's and/or Service?
[/quote]
perhaps a museum?

Why not spend the $25 and get something made in this century?
Limited to printers supported by windows 3.1?

Bob Larter...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:48 pm

Guest

Bob Larter...

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:52 pm

Guest

William Sommerwerck wrote:
[quote]About 3 years ago, I discovered that only a few of my customers
were still running HP LJII and LJIII printers. So, I cleaned up the
few I had in storage and tried to sell them. No takers. So, I tried
to give them away. No takers.

Anyone who wouldn't take a working 4M for free is nuts. You'd be getting a
high-quality PostScript printer for the cost of a new cartridge.
[/quote]
Indeed. And cartridges are still readily available for reasonable prices.

[quote]The 4M is a great printer. I recently printed out a discount coupon with
extremely small fonts (they had to be around 2pt) and the quality was
amazing.
[/quote]
<nods> The variable dot size works really well.

[quote]They go for very little on eBay. I doubt you could find a new printer that
good, for that price. The only problem is that not nearly as fast as
"modern" printer.
[/quote]
Oh, they still hold up pretty well, & they won't fall to pieces after a
few years the way that modern units will.

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