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| Edward A. Falk... |
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[quote]On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:53:13 -0500, "Buerste" <buerste at (no spam) wowway.com> wrote:
The liberals will freak! They don't WANT cheap, clean energy...what Do they
want? Hmmmm...
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I'm a liberal, and that's exactly what I want.
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| Randy... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:21 am |
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:24:44 -0800, Hawke
<davesmithers at (no spam) digitalpath.net> wrote:
[quote]Buerste wrote:
"Rich Grise" <richgrise at (no spam) example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.11.02.21.56.36.402354 at (no spam) example.net...
Obama energy czar: Nuclear power integral to America's 'low-carbon
future'
I'm not a liberal but I do want cheap, clean energy. As long as they put
the nuclear plant right near your house and store the spent uranium
there too I'm all for it. Then we can use the new power grid to bring
the clean power to me.
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If I lived next door to a nuke plant it would most likely be the least
hazardous thing in my life. As of now I'm about 30-40 miles away.
My former job was most likely the most hardazdous. The greedy exec's
and the union got that sent to China where they know how to handle
hazards, or at least how to hide the bodies.
Thank You,
Randy
Remove 333 from email address to reply. |
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| amdx... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:55 am |
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"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hcp808$s8d$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net...
[quote]On a sunny day (Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:56:48 -0800) it happened "Paul
Hovnanian
P.E." <paul at (no spam) hovnanian.com> wrote in <4AEFB810.81AE2FF1 at (no spam) hovnanian.com>:
Rich Grise wrote:
Obama energy czar: Nuclear power integral to America's 'low-carbon
future'
Good. I've got my thermonuclear clothes dryer up and running.
It seems the nuke industry is now in control of the media,
and to boot that, now atacks Al Gore
(and makes the pople anti-clean energy) 
This article was published today, Gore on the defence:
'Gore's Dual Role in Spotlight: Advocate and Investor'
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/business/energy-environment/03gore.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
Interesting that this comes from the leftists weenies? LOL,
see how the media manipulate you?
But I am all for nuke power, always was, more people die in coal mining
each year then have ever been killed by nuke accidents.
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Add to that, the air pollution that causes some people breathing problems
and the mercury in fish caused by coal burning.
Someday we will be able to charge our electric cars and reduce our oil
imports
from the middle east.
HOPE Obama can make this CHANGE in the next three years.
Then outta there!
Mike |
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| Eregon... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:41 pm |
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cassiope <fpm at (no spam) u.washington.edu> wrote in news:0c446b5b-9ce3-4ff1-932e-
ad142529827c at (no spam) f1g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
[quote]If nuclear power is so great, why can't these mega-companies & private
enterprise
do it without the government subsidies?
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Lawsuits. |
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| Rich Grise... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:14 pm |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:34:14 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:
[quote]But I am all for nuke power, always was, more people die in coal mining
each year then have ever been killed by nuke accidents.
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More people have been killed in TEDDY KENNEDY'S CAR than have been killed
by nuclear power accidents in the US.
Cheers!
Rich |
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| cavelamb... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:36 pm |
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Rich Grise wrote:
[quote]On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:34:14 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:
But I am all for nuke power, always was, more people die in coal mining
each year then have ever been killed by nuke accidents.
More people have been killed in TEDDY KENNEDY'S CAR than have been killed
by nuclear power accidents in the US.
Cheers!
Rich
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Except that the nuclear accident in Russia contaminated the whole world...
I'd be more comfortable with civilian nukes - if the Navy were controlling
them... |
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| cassiope... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:51 am |
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On Nov 4, 5:33 am, Jim Yanik <jya... at (no spam) abuse.gov> wrote:
[quote]Eregon <Era... at (no spam) Saphira.org> wrote innews:Xns9CB876EAC6119Eragon at (no spam) 74.209.131.10:
cassiope <f... at (no spam) u.washington.edu> wrote in news:0c446b5b-9ce3-4ff1-932e-
ad1425298... at (no spam) f1g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
If nuclear power is so great, why can't these mega-companies & private
enterprise
do it without the government subsidies?
Lawsuits.
what subsidies?
Seems gov't puts more obstacles in their way than hands out subsidies.
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Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
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Think of all the R&D - that we continue to pay for. All the work
developing waste treatment methods & facilities. A large part of the
US DoE has, for many years gone towards nuclear energy. And related
to "lawsuits" - the US government is - by statute - limits the
liability of nuclear power facilities. It doesn't protect the nuclear
industry from "little" lawsuits, but if they screw up big-time - you
stand to pay for it, not the companies that made the mess. But the
nuclear industry tells us they can't proceed without these corporate
liability limits. Why is that?
IIRC you are old enough to remember the slogan "to cheap to meter".
Yeah, and we'll get all our money back from Bush's TARP program, too.
See:
http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear_power/nuclear_power_and_global_warming/nuclear-loan-guarantees.html
When we think back to how the US government (mostly through military
and space programs) developed technologies that became the basis of
the electronics industry -I suspect that most of us would agree that
this "investment" paid of well in many ways. Many companies now sell
devices and products free of government involvment in their
development or production. It's past time for the nuclear power
industry to get off the dole. |
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| Jim Yanik... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:33 am |
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Eregon <Eragon at (no spam) Saphira.org> wrote in
news:Xns9CB876EAC6119Eragon at (no spam) 74.209.131.10:
[quote]cassiope <fpm at (no spam) u.washington.edu> wrote in news:0c446b5b-9ce3-4ff1-932e-
ad142529827c at (no spam) f1g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
If nuclear power is so great, why can't these mega-companies & private
enterprise
do it without the government subsidies?
Lawsuits.
[/quote]
what subsidies?
Seems gov't puts more obstacles in their way than hands out subsidies.
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Jim Yanik
jyanik
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localnet
dot com |
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| Paul Hovnanian P.E.... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:57 pm |
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John Husvar wrote:
[quote]
In article
7b6304e4-e626-4955-a109-fc1637f4d74d at (no spam) c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Tim Williams <tmoranwms at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 2, 10:56 pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p... at (no spam) hovnanian.com> wrote:
Good. I've got my thermonuclear clothes dryer up and running.
One of those would actually be very handy. No more bad foot odor,
nuke the bacteria on your socks!
Tim
Length of rope to suit site, sunny day = thermonuclear clothes dryer?
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Yep.
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Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul at (no spam) Hovnanian.com
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| Hawke... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:28 am |
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Paul Keinanen wrote:
[quote]On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:56:39 -0800, Rich Grise <richgrise at (no spam) example.net
wrote:
Obama energy czar: Nuclear power integral to America's 'low-carbon
future'
[mind the wrap]
http://taxdollars.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/31/obama-energy-czar-nuclear-power-integral-to-americas-low-carbon-future/28895/
Cheers!
Rich
If that nuclear industry would be able to deliver :-)
The Areva/Siemens 1600 MW power plant OL3 over here was supposed to be
connected to the net this year, but now it appears likely that the
connection will occur in 2012.
Paul
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Bad timing. That's when the world is supposed to end.
Hawke |
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| Dirk Bruere at NeoPax... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:34 pm |
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| John Husvar... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:59 pm |
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In article <7lgum1F3d8hdsU2 at (no spam) mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Hawke wrote:
Paul Keinanen wrote:
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:56:39 -0800, Rich Grise <richgrise at (no spam) example.net
wrote:
Obama energy czar: Nuclear power integral to America's 'low-carbon
future'
[mind the wrap]
http://taxdollars.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/31/obama-energy-czar-nuclear
-power-integral-to-americas-low-carbon-future/28895/
Cheers!
Rich
If that nuclear industry would be able to deliver :-)
The Areva/Siemens 1600 MW power plant OL3 over here was supposed to be
connected to the net this year, but now it appears likely that the
connection will occur in 2012.
Paul
Bad timing. That's when the world is supposed to end.
Hawke
That's when CERN will finally be running at full power.
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And makes little black holes all over the place
What if the calendar ends at 2012 just because that's where the
mathematicians decided they'd calculated it far enough and went out for
a beer or a good ball game? |
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| Dirk Bruere at NeoPax... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:01 pm |
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John Husvar wrote:
[quote]In article <7lgum1F3d8hdsU2 at (no spam) mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Hawke wrote:
Paul Keinanen wrote:
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:56:39 -0800, Rich Grise <richgrise at (no spam) example.net
wrote:
Obama energy czar: Nuclear power integral to America's 'low-carbon
future'
[mind the wrap]
http://taxdollars.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/31/obama-energy-czar-nuclear
-power-integral-to-americas-low-carbon-future/28895/
Cheers!
Rich
If that nuclear industry would be able to deliver :-)
The Areva/Siemens 1600 MW power plant OL3 over here was supposed to be
connected to the net this year, but now it appears likely that the
connection will occur in 2012.
Paul
Bad timing. That's when the world is supposed to end.
Hawke
That's when CERN will finally be running at full power.
And makes little black holes all over the place
What if the calendar ends at 2012 just because that's where the
mathematicians decided they'd calculated it far enough and went out for
a beer or a good ball game?
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Well, do you put your faith in the musings of a people aptly portrayed
in Mel Gibson's movie?
--
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show |
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| John Husvar... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:34 pm |
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In article <7lh7abF3cmubiU4 at (no spam) mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Well, do you put your faith in the musings of a people aptly portrayed
in Mel Gibson's movie?
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| Nobody... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:11 am |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:36:08 -0600, cavelamb wrote:
[quote]Except that the nuclear accident in Russia contaminated the whole world...
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Which one?
[If you're referring to Chernobyl, that's Ukraine, not Russia.] |
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