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Rich...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:36 pm
Guest
Woo-pee. Another 30 years of rockets not much more advanced than what the
Chinese used in the 1200's. Soon, the Shuttle will be a very fond memory.
 
Chris L Peterson...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:59 pm
Guest
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:36:41 -0500, Rich <none at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:

[quote]Woo-pee. Another 30 years of rockets not much more advanced than what the
Chinese used in the 1200's. Soon, the Shuttle will be a very fond memory.
[/quote]
Certainly outperforming the rockets of the Canadian space program,
though.
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com
 
Quadibloc...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:50 am
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On Oct 31, 9:59 pm, Chris L Peterson <c... at (no spam) alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:

[quote]Certainly outperforming the rockets of the Canadian space program,
though.
[/quote]
That wouldn't be hard to do. I know Canada launched a few suborbital
sounding rockets, but I think that we have relied upon the Americans
or others even for placing the Anik communications satellites into
orbit.

I wish Canada had welcomed in the Turks and Caicos Islands. Then we,
too, would have had a place to launch rockets from that was near to
the equator, just as the Americans have Florida (and, for that matter,
Johnston Island, a place once suggested for this purpose).

John Savard
 
Quadibloc...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:56 am
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On Nov 1, 3:50 am, Quadibloc <jsav... at (no spam) ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
[quote]I think that we have relied upon the Americans
or others even for placing the Anik communications satellites into
orbit.
[/quote]
I confirmed this with a Google search, but I was surprised to see that
the Wikipedia article referred to Anik I from 1972 as the world's
first domestic communications satellite. What is Molniya - from the
1960s - chopped liver?

John Savard
 
Quadibloc...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:48 am
Guest
On Nov 1, 10:14 am, "Uber Buble'" <U... at (no spam) nospam.com> wrote:
[quote]So you think every nation should have a manned rocket
program?? Our satellites, astronauts and space hardware are some of the
finest in the world.
[/quote]
I'll admit that, in general, it is not illegitimate for people living
in countries like Belgium, Luxembourg, or even Canada to venture
opinions on the wisdom of the course the United States space program
is taking. While we may not pay taxes to the U.S. government, still,
it is the United States, for good or ill, which must take the
leadership role in most of the major activities undertaken by free
men.

Once in a while, the U.S. will leave _something_ for other countries
to do, thus eschewing the building of the Superconducting
Supercollider so that instead Europe carries on the search for the
Higgs Boson with the Large Hadron Collider, but such cases are few and
far between.

But the criticisms levelled by the poster "Rich", not just in this one
post, but in many others of his posts, tend to be so negative and
unfair that perhaps it was felt that a low blow would not be
inappropriate in return in his case at least. I suppose Canada can
always plead the Canadarm when the Little Red Hen comes forth to judge
us.

John Savard
 
Davoud...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:12 pm
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Rich:
[quote]Woo-pee. Another 30 years of rockets not much more advanced than what the
Chinese used in the 1200's. Soon, the Shuttle will be a very fond memory.
[/quote]
Chris L Peterson:
[quote]Certainly outperforming the rockets of the Canadian space program,
though.
[/quote]
Not to mention outperforming rockets consisting of hollow cylinders
with no working mass, and rockets that rely on warp drives and other
bits of magic for delta v. Perhaps Rich's time would be better spent
developing a more advanced lift vehicle rather than whining.

Davoud

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
 
Uber Buble...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:14 pm
Guest
So you think every nation should have a manned rocket
program?? Our satellites, astronauts and space hardware are some of the
finest in the world.

"Chris L Peterson" <clp at (no spam) alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in message
news:nb5qe5dmcsso79s452b3qg5qhd5ul3uj4e at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote]On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:36:41 -0500, Rich <none at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:

Woo-pee. Another 30 years of rockets not much more advanced than what the
Chinese used in the 1200's. Soon, the Shuttle will be a very fond memory.

Certainly outperforming the rockets of the Canadian space program,
though.
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com[/quote]
 
Uber Buble...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:15 pm
Guest
Blame the british on that.

I wish Canada had welcomed in the Turks and Caicos Islands. Then we,
too, ...
 
Quadibloc...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:10 pm
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On Nov 1, 1:46 pm, "Uber Buble'" <U... at (no spam) nospam.com> wrote:
[quote]Didn't the Canadarm safetly swim to shore after the Challenger disaster??
[/quote]
We couldn't have built another one?

John Savard
 
Uber Buble...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:46 pm
Guest
Didn't the Canadarm safetly swim to shore after the Challenger disaster??


". I suppose Canada can
always plead the Canadarm when the Little Red Hen comes forth to judge
us.

John Savard
 
Ken S. Tucker...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:59 pm
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On Nov 1, 4:13 pm, Chris L Peterson <c... at (no spam) alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
[quote]On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:14:05 GMT, "Uber Buble'" <U... at (no spam) nospam.com> wrote:
So you think every nation should have a manned rocket
program?? Our satellites, astronauts and space hardware are some of the
finest in the world.

Not at all. I just think an idiot like Rich is on thin ice criticizing
every last aspect of the American space program when he isn't even an
American paying taxes to support it. Of course, Rich seems to spend all
his time criticizing things American. I suspect he's actually an
American pretending to be Canadian. Every Canadian I've ever met was a
pretty nice person, unlike Rich, who is clearly a worthless waste of
oxygen.
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatoryhttp://www.cloudbait.com
[/quote]
Well we pay US and Canuck taxes, I think it's nutty for a little
country like Canada to get in to the orbital booster business.
Canucks have done a good job in the Nuke Energy business
that an apparent xenophobic US has failed to appreciate.
Ken
 
Chris L Peterson...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:13 pm
Guest
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:14:05 GMT, "Uber Buble'" <Uber at (no spam) nospam.com> wrote:

[quote]So you think every nation should have a manned rocket
program?? Our satellites, astronauts and space hardware are some of the
finest in the world.
[/quote]
Not at all. I just think an idiot like Rich is on thin ice criticizing
every last aspect of the American space program when he isn't even an
American paying taxes to support it. Of course, Rich seems to spend all
his time criticizing things American. I suspect he's actually an
American pretending to be Canadian. Every Canadian I've ever met was a
pretty nice person, unlike Rich, who is clearly a worthless waste of
oxygen.
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com
 
Rich...
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:16 pm
Guest
Davoud <star at (no spam) sky.net> wrote in news:011120091212166933%star at (no spam) sky.net:

[quote]Rich:
Woo-pee. Another 30 years of rockets not much more advanced than
what the Chinese used in the 1200's. Soon, the Shuttle will be a
very fond memory.

Chris L Peterson:
Certainly outperforming the rockets of the Canadian space program,
though.

Not to mention outperforming rockets consisting of hollow cylinders
with no working mass, and rockets that rely on warp drives and other
bits of magic for delta v. Perhaps Rich's time would be better spent
developing a more advanced lift vehicle rather than whining.

Davoud

[/quote]
One was already designed. Long ago. That could orbit 4000 TONS in one
shot. Enough to build a station on the Moon AND Mars. A myopic,
overrated, P.C. President killed it and not too much later, someone killed
him. Karma.
 
Chris.B...
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:47 am
Guest
On Nov 13, 2:16 am, Rich <n... at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:
[quote]
One was already designed.  Long ago.  That could orbit 4000 TONS in one
shot.  Enough to build a station on the Moon AND Mars.  A myopic,
overrated, P.C. President killed it and not too much later, someone killed  
him.  Karma.
[/quote]
I had no Idea America was so advanced in space travel at the time of
Lincoln.

I should stay away from the fascist comic strips while you're doping
yourself.
 
Thomas Womack...
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:57 am
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In article <XOydnVxZyOHhLmHXnZ2dnUVZ_thi4p2d at (no spam) giganews.com>,
Rich <none at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:
[quote]Davoud <star at (no spam) sky.net> wrote in news:011120091212166933%star at (no spam) sky.net:

Rich:
Woo-pee. Another 30 years of rockets not much more advanced than
what the Chinese used in the 1200's. Soon, the Shuttle will be a
very fond memory.

Chris L Peterson:
Certainly outperforming the rockets of the Canadian space program,
though.

Not to mention outperforming rockets consisting of hollow cylinders
with no working mass, and rockets that rely on warp drives and other
bits of magic for delta v. Perhaps Rich's time would be better spent
developing a more advanced lift vehicle rather than whining.

Davoud


One was already designed. Long ago. That could orbit 4000 TONS in one
shot.
[/quote]
At the price of Nevada, if you're thinking of Orion - obviously if
you're talking about that large a launch mass you're starting from
ground level and shouting damn the fallout.

I am not a particularly serious ecologist, I'm an advocate for
building fission power stations in large numbers starting tomorrow,
but I don't think a one-off large space launch is worth setting off
atom bombs at ground level.

Tom
 
 
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