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| Peter T. Daniels... |
 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:21 am |
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On Nov 4, 7:22 am, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
[quote]Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Can you imagine a "circular enclosure surrounded by an earthen wall"
-- which leads one to wonder whether there are one wall or two --
outgribing?
You should put an asterisk in front of "outgribing". Only the past tense
is attested.
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I just attested it, and you had no trouble interpreting it!
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In a reading of "Jabberwocky" on *Selected Shorts* broadcast a few
weeks ago, Bill Irwin pronounced "mome raths" as something like
['mVmVr&Ts]. I can find no reason, either in the Alice literature or
in the prosody of the poem, for anything other than ['mowm'r&Ts].
But come come: doesn't an "enclosure" have to be enclosed by
something, which would mean that the earthen wall goes _around_ the
wall of the enclosure? |
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| Harlan Messinger... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:22 am |
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Peter T. Daniels wrote:
[quote]Can you imagine a "circular enclosure surrounded by an earthen wall"
-- which leads one to wonder whether there are one wall or two --
outgribing?
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You should put an asterisk in front of "outgribing". Only the past tense
is attested. |
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| Harlan Messinger... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:56 am |
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Peter T. Daniels wrote:
[quote]On Nov 4, 7:22 am, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Can you imagine a "circular enclosure surrounded by an earthen wall"
-- which leads one to wonder whether there are one wall or two --
outgribing?
You should put an asterisk in front of "outgribing". Only the past tense
is attested.
I just attested it, and you had no trouble interpreting it!
--
In a reading of "Jabberwocky" on *Selected Shorts* broadcast a few
weeks ago, Bill Irwin pronounced "mome raths" as something like
['mVmVr&Ts]. I can find no reason, either in the Alice literature or
in the prosody of the poem, for anything other than ['mowm'r&Ts].
But come come: doesn't an "enclosure" have to be enclosed by
something, which would mean that the earthen wall goes _around_ the
wall of the enclosure?
[/quote]
An enclosure is either a thing that encloses or a thing or a space that
is enclosed. |
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| Peter T. Daniels... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:47 am |
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On Nov 4, 9:56 am, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
[quote]Peter T. Daniels wrote:
On Nov 4, 7:22 am, Harlan Messinger
hmessinger.removet... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Can you imagine a "circular enclosure surrounded by an earthen wall"
-- which leads one to wonder whether there are one wall or two --
outgribing?
You should put an asterisk in front of "outgribing". Only the past tense
is attested.
I just attested it, and you had no trouble interpreting it!
--
In a reading of "Jabberwocky" on *Selected Shorts* broadcast a few
weeks ago, Bill Irwin pronounced "mome raths" as something like
['mVmVr&Ts]. I can find no reason, either in the Alice literature or
in the prosody of the poem, for anything other than ['mowm'r&Ts].
But come come: doesn't an "enclosure" have to be enclosed by
something, which would mean that the earthen wall goes _around_ the
wall of the enclosure?
An enclosure is either a thing that encloses or a thing or a space that
is enclosed.-
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"An enclosure inside an earthen wall" would be clearer. |
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| Joe Fineman... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:34 pm |
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Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis at (no spam) comcast.net> writes:
[quote]Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Can you imagine a "circular enclosure surrounded by an earthen
wall" -- which leads one to wonder whether there are one wall or
two -- outgribing?
You should put an asterisk in front of "outgribing". Only the past
tense is attested.
[/quote]
The (pardon the expression) gerund is attested by no less a person
than Humpty Dumpty himself:
'And what does outgrabe mean?' 'Well, outgribing is something
between bellowing and whistling, with a kind of sneeze in the
middle: however, you'll hear it done, maybe - down in the wood
yonder - and, when you've once heard it, you'll be quite
content. Who's been repeating all that hard stuff to you?'
--
--- Joe Fineman joe_f at (no spam) verizon.net
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