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| Shawn Wilson... |
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On Oct 31, 11:49 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<seaw... at (no spam) sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
[quote]You were talking out of your ass. You got called on it. Admit you
were full of it already.
Why? Tell you what, I'll admit I'm full of "it" the VERY MINUTE that
you admit that you're full of it, too,
[/quote]
Ah, there's your problem. You just can't accept that you are ignorant
where someone else isn't. Tough shit. You are manifestly ignorant,
to the point where you humiliate yourself when you open your mouth.
[quote] I said I can prove it. I didn't say I have the evidence to prove it
now. Can, that's a physical or conditional statement of
possibility/capability. Am I capable of it? Sure, given the resources.
[/quote]
Or, you know, not. Ya see, that whole bluffing thing doesn't work on
someone who actually knows Varian. I know the proofs you would have
to disprove. If it could be done someone would have done it 100 years
ago. Guaranteed Nobel Prize, *if* you could do it. |
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| David DeLaney... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:31 am |
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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <seawasp at (no spam) sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
[quote]Shawn Wilson wrote:
"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seaw... at (no spam) sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
I don't do that kind of work on spec (I do write novels on spec, but
that's because it's FUN). Tell you what, YOU give me the same huge pile
of money the Swedes will give me, and as soon as the Swedes hand me that
prize I'll give it over to you.
Like I would give you money on spec to do the impossible.
You were talking out of your ass. You got called on it. Admit you
were full of it already.
Why? Tell you what, I'll admit I'm full of "it" the VERY MINUTE that
you admit that you're full of it, too, about most of your posts where
you blab about economics, science, whatever, and then argue with people
who actually ARE recognized experts in relevant fields.
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Not "most". "All".
[quote]Other people handed you examples of just how widespread the phenomenon
is; proving it scientifically would be akin to having to prove that rain
does, indeed, fall from the sky in widespread areas of the globe.
[/quote]
But, see, those examples disagree with what he already thinks he knows. So
they're wrong wrong wrongitty wrong. Near as I can tell, he's one of those
students who doesn't learn from reading about stuff, he only learns by having
stuff actually done to him, and we're not in a position to edumacate him
thusly.
Dave
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\/David DeLaney posting from dbd at (no spam) vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K. |
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| Bill Snyder... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:13 pm |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:11:34 -0700 (PDT), tg
<tgdenning at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 31, 1:56Â pm, Shawn Wilson <ikonoql... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 31, 4:11Â am, tg <tgdenn... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
Nonsense. Â Energy balances change on an annual and even a daily basis
20x what global warming predicts.
Caused no doubt by that fleet of alien mind-control spaceships
interposing itself between Earth and Sol at various times. Thanks for
reminding me; I will include it in any future calculations.
Or, you know, sunrise, sunset, and the change of the seasons. Â But
thanks for demonstrating what fuckwits AGW types are...
So you think that the amount of solar radiation hitting Earth changes
with 'sunrise'. I would stay put if I were you, wherever you are, so
you don't walk too far and fall off the edge.
sigh
[/quote]
Only the part of the planet in his immediate vicinity actually
exists, the rest is subsumed back into the Void until his (or
His?) presence vitalizes it again.
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Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank] |
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| Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:49 pm |
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Shawn Wilson wrote:
[quote]On Oct 30, 6:08 pm, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
seaw... at (no spam) sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
Feel free to do so.
Feel free to pay me to do so. For real work, I get paid. Writing
wiseass responses to guys who believe they know more than everyone about
everything, like you, that I'll do for free.
In other words, you were talking out of your ass...
I forgot to point out that you deliberately cut the "large pile of
money" the Swedes would give him if he actually could do what he
claims...
I don't do that kind of work on spec (I do write novels on spec, but
that's because it's FUN). Tell you what, YOU give me the same huge pile
of money the Swedes will give me, and as soon as the Swedes hand me that
prize I'll give it over to you.
Like I would give you money on spec to do the impossible.
You were talking out of your ass. You got called on it. Admit you
were full of it already.
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Why? Tell you what, I'll admit I'm full of "it" the VERY MINUTE that
you admit that you're full of it, too, about most of your posts where
you blab about economics, science, whatever, and then argue with people
who actually ARE recognized experts in relevant fields.
I said I can prove it. I didn't say I have the evidence to prove it
now. Can, that's a physical or conditional statement of
possibility/capability. Am I capable of it? Sure, given the resources.
Other people handed you examples of just how widespread the phenomenon
is; proving it scientifically would be akin to having to prove that rain
does, indeed, fall from the sky in widespread areas of the globe.
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
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Live Journal: http://seawasp.livejournal.com |
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| Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:51 pm |
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tg wrote:
[quote]On Oct 31, 2:13 pm, Bill Snyder <bsny... at (no spam) airmail.net> wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:11:34 -0700 (PDT), tg
tgdenn... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
On Oct 31, 1:56 pm, Shawn Wilson <ikonoql... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 31, 4:11 am, tg <tgdenn... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
Nonsense. Energy balances change on an annual and even a daily basis
20x what global warming predicts.
Caused no doubt by that fleet of alien mind-control spaceships
interposing itself between Earth and Sol at various times. Thanks for
reminding me; I will include it in any future calculations.
Or, you know, sunrise, sunset, and the change of the seasons. But
thanks for demonstrating what fuckwits AGW types are...
So you think that the amount of solar radiation hitting Earth changes
with 'sunrise'. I would stay put if I were you, wherever you are, so
you don't walk too far and fall off the edge.
sigh
Only the part of the planet in his immediate vicinity actually
exists, the rest is subsumed back into the Void until his (or
His?) presence vitalizes it again.
So did you sf writing types create this Shawn persona as a joint sock-
puppet project to explore the limits of ignorance and irrationality?
[/quote]
To demonstrate that there ARE no limits!
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
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Live Journal: http://seawasp.livejournal.com |
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| Mike Schilling... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:27 pm |
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tg wrote:
[quote]
So did you sf writing types create this Shawn persona as a joint
sock-
puppet project to explore the limits of ignorance and irrationality?
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Fiction, unlike truth, needs to be plausible. |
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| Mike Schilling... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:36 pm |
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Butch Malahide wrote:
[quote]On Oct 31, 12:24 pm, d... at (no spam) gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
Bill Snyder <bsny... at (no spam) airmail.net> wrote:
Mike Ash <m... at (no spam) mikeash.com> wrote:
tg <tgdenn... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
Kind of figured. Actually, as a speculative exercise, I think I
*would* prefer living in a glacial period. I certainly don't
like
the idea of no snow or glaciers anywhere, and I still enjoy the
local winter (when my snow-thrower isn't being balky.) Of
course,
we would have to have a rational number of humans on the planet.
Fractional humans are bad enough, but it's the trancendentals
that'll really get you!
Ordinary irrationals can be pretty bad, though.
Plus there's so _many_ of them.
So many of *what*? Mr. Snyder rather confusingly seems to be using
"ordinary" as an antonym of "transcendental". In fact, the ordinary,
run-of-the-mill irrationals *are* the transcendental ones. It's the
*algebraic* irrationals that are special and rare; only aleph_zero
of
those.
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Algebraic numbers in general are just noise. If you said "All numbers
are transcendental" you wouldn;t be off my much (though you might have
a hard time defining "transcendental". |
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| Jim Lovejoy... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:49 pm |
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"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp at (no spam) sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote in
news:hci0uu$vnh$2 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org:
[quote]tg wrote:
On Oct 31, 2:13 pm, Bill Snyder <bsny... at (no spam) airmail.net> wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:11:34 -0700 (PDT), tg
tgdenn... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
On Oct 31, 1:56 pm, Shawn Wilson <ikonoql... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 31, 4:11 am, tg <tgdenn... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
Nonsense. Energy balances change on an annual and even a daily
basis 20x what global warming predicts.
Caused no doubt by that fleet of alien mind-control spaceships
interposing itself between Earth and Sol at various times. Thanks
for reminding me; I will include it in any future calculations.
Or, you know, sunrise, sunset, and the change of the seasons. But
thanks for demonstrating what fuckwits AGW types are...
So you think that the amount of solar radiation hitting Earth
changes with 'sunrise'. I would stay put if I were you, wherever
you are, so you don't walk too far and fall off the edge.
sigh
Only the part of the planet in his immediate vicinity actually
exists, the rest is subsumed back into the Void until his (or
His?) presence vitalizes it again.
So did you sf writing types create this Shawn persona as a joint
sock- puppet project to explore the limits of ignorance and
irrationality?
To demonstrate that there ARE no limits!
[/quote]
Einstein is quoted as saying that the only things that are infinite are the
universe and stupidity, and he wasn't sure about the universe, and Shawn
was created as proof of the second part of the theorem. |
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| Bill Snyder... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:17 pm |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:19:50 -0600, Howard Brazee
<howard at (no spam) brazee.net> wrote:
[quote]On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:43:58 GMT, David Johnston <david at (no spam) block.net
wrote:
In what way would the world be superior if it were cooler?
Cooler than what?
Cooler than the Fonz.
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Flying cars powered by Mr Fusions, everybody wearing mirror shades
while they have cybersex, stuff like that.
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Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank] |
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| Juho Julkunen... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:18 pm |
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In article <7l35urF3b75loU1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net>, Sean O'Hara
(seanohara at (no spam) gmail.com) says...
[quote]In the Year of the Earth Ox, the Great and Powerful Howard Brazee
declared:
Studies have confirmed that we don't want too many choices. When we
have two choices in (product), we have pretty high satisfaction that
our choice is the best for us. With a thousand choices, we're not
nearly so confident. We can't even evaluate all of the options and
decide which ones we prefer.
Plus it's really annoying when your grandmother gives you an HD-DVD
copy of Star Trek the Motion Picture thinking it's the new film.
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She's just saying that. It's for your own good.
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Juho Julkunen |
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| Howard Brazee... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:19 pm |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:43:58 GMT, David Johnston <david at (no spam) block.net>
wrote:
[quote]In what way would the world be superior if it were cooler?
Cooler than what?
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Cooler than the Fonz.
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"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison |
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| Howard Brazee... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:42 pm |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:30:46 -0700 (PDT), Shawn Wilson
<ikonoqlast at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]Or, you know, not. Ya see, that whole bluffing thing doesn't work on
someone who actually knows Varian. I know the proofs you would have
to disprove. If it could be done someone would have done it 100 years
ago. Guaranteed Nobel Prize, *if* you could do it.
[/quote]
Of course, Nobel prizes *always* go to the most deserving.
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison |
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| Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:03 pm |
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Shawn Wilson wrote:
[quote]
Or, you know, not. Ya see, that whole bluffing thing doesn't work on
someone who's on too much Valium.
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Fixed your post for you.
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
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| Bill Snyder... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:40 pm |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:30:35 -0700 (PDT), tg
<tgdenning at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 31, 2:13Â pm, Bill Snyder <bsny... at (no spam) airmail.net> wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:11:34 -0700 (PDT), tg
tgdenn... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
On Oct 31, 1:56Â pm, Shawn Wilson <ikonoql... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 31, 4:11Â am, tg <tgdenn... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
Nonsense. Â Energy balances change on an annual and even a daily basis
20x what global warming predicts.
Caused no doubt by that fleet of alien mind-control spaceships
interposing itself between Earth and Sol at various times. Thanks for
reminding me; I will include it in any future calculations.
Or, you know, sunrise, sunset, and the change of the seasons. Â But
thanks for demonstrating what fuckwits AGW types are...
So you think that the amount of solar radiation hitting Earth changes
with 'sunrise'. I would stay put if I were you, wherever you are, so
you don't walk too far and fall off the edge.
sigh
Only the part of the planet in his immediate vicinity actually
exists, the rest is subsumed back into the Void until his (or
His?) presence vitalizes it again.
So did you sf writing types create this Shawn persona as a joint sock-
puppet project to explore the limits of ignorance and irrationality?
[/quote]
There are a few writers here, but most of us just enjoy reading
and discussing the stuff. As for inventing the loon, H. P.
Lovecraft might have, I suppose, but he's been dead a long time.
My theory is that Shawn's mother just listened to Rush Limbaugh
once too often while she was carrying him, causing fetal fecal
syndrome.
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Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank] |
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| Mike Ash... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:13 pm |
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In article <49fpe5hsogpf28l13k07eph4rm5jed7htl at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard at (no spam) brazee.net> wrote:
[quote]On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:30:46 -0700 (PDT), Shawn Wilson
ikonoqlast at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Or, you know, not. Ya see, that whole bluffing thing doesn't work on
someone who actually knows Varian. I know the proofs you would have
to disprove. If it could be done someone would have done it 100 years
ago. Guaranteed Nobel Prize, *if* you could do it.
Of course, Nobel prizes *always* go to the most deserving.
[/quote]
I'm amused by the idea that important proofs could be disproved. Like
most things, Shawn apparently doesn't understand the concept of the word
"proof", and is either incorrectly applying the word or, more likely,
incorrectly applying the theorems in question.
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Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon |
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