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alexpeter...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:15 am
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Any tips or suggestions on welding cast to steel? Also what kind of preparation should I do?

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nuny at (no spam) bid.nes...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:15 am
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On Oct 30, 9:15 am, alexpeter <alexpe... at (no spam) fakeemail.com> wrote:
[quote]Any tips or suggestions on welding cast to steel? Also what kind of preparation should I do?
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You don't say what type of steel, but here's a starting point:

http://www.welding-advisers.com/PRACTICAL_WELDING_LETTER-PracticalWeldingLetterNo25.html

Mark L. Fergerson
 
Puppet_Sock...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:15 am
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On Oct 30, 12:15 pm, alexpeter <alexpe... at (no spam) fakeemail.com> wrote:
[quote]Any tips or suggestions on welding cast to steel? Also what kind of preparation should I do?
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You should consult a qualified welder. Asking this sort of
question on a news group is asking for big problems. If you
need to weld these sorts of things I'm guessing that if the
welds failed it would be very bad. That means you need to
do it correctly. And that means you need somebody who
knows the job and will stand by the results.

That aint the net.
Socks
 
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:12 am
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alexpeter <alexpeter at (no spam) fakeemail.com> wrote:
[quote]Any tips or suggestions on welding cast to steel? Also what kind of preparation should I do?

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My technique, learned through bitter experience, is that if I need to weld
something out of the ordinary, I buy a six-pack and ask the neighbor who
is a professional welder and can weld balsa wood to peanut butter to
mil-spec to do it.


--
Jim Pennino

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tj Frazir...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:26 am
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use a soft stick.
And use the torch once you tack it where you want it ,,use the tourch
to get it red hot then weld it wile its red then keep steel red hot wile
the iron cools.
lor it will cool at 2 rates abd crack.

http://community.webtv.net/GravityPhysics/WhaleSteamEngineA
 
Huang...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:16 pm
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Use the frickin' nickel welding rod that you would ordinarily use for
welding cast iron, that might work.
 
G=EMC^2 Glazier...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:29 pm
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alex Fool around with a car 12 volt battery,and use jumper cables to
hold the rod and cast iron. use a soft wire coat hanger for your welding
rod. Wear gloves and dark sun glasses. It will give a a feel of how to
weld. Do it out doors. Do not be afraid. Every thing I know and every
experiment I have done I have done it on my own. People argue that a 12
volt battery won't work,but these people never tried. Spot welding is
what I am talking about. Bert
 
Bill Snyder...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:31 pm
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:29:43 -0400, herbertglazier at (no spam) webtv.net
(G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

[quote]alex Fool around with a car 12 volt battery,and use jumper cables to
hold the rod and cast iron. use a soft wire coat hanger for your welding
rod. Wear gloves and dark sun glasses. It will give a a feel of how to
weld. Do it out doors. Do not be afraid. Every thing I know and every
experiment I have done I have done it on my own. People argue that a 12
volt battery won't work,but these people never tried. Spot welding is
what I am talking about. Bert
[/quote]
Hydrogen explosion is what you're talking about, you murderous
moron.

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Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
 
Androcles...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:14 pm
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"Bill Snyder" <bsnyder at (no spam) airmail.net> wrote in message
news:pomme5dfa541qjeqd3vadu8lvrn0mudmcv at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote]On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:29:43 -0400, herbertglazier at (no spam) webtv.net
(G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

alex Fool around with a car 12 volt battery,and use jumper cables to
hold the rod and cast iron. use a soft wire coat hanger for your welding
rod. Wear gloves and dark sun glasses. It will give a a feel of how to
weld. Do it out doors. Do not be afraid. Every thing I know and every
experiment I have done I have done it on my own. People argue that a 12
volt battery won't work,but these people never tried. Spot welding is
what I am talking about. Bert

Hydrogen explosion is what you're talking about, you murderous
moron.

Moron Herbie may be, but the worst alex will get is a burn from[/quote]
a spark and Herbie told him to wear gloves, he's not murderous.
alex will probably weld the coat hanger to the job first. And don't
babble about hydrogen from the battery, I get more methane (CH4,
natural gas) heating my boiler than he'll ever get H2. I've blown
acetylene mixed with oxygen into a toy balloon under pressure, too.
It's a nice pop when lit but it doesn't kill.

The right way to weld steel to cast iron:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxy-fuel_welding_and_cutting
Hydrogen has a clean flame and is good for use on aluminium. It can be used
at a higher pressure than acetylene and is therefore useful for underwater
welding and cutting. It is a good type of flame to use when heating large
amounts of material. The flame temperature is high, about 2,000 °C for
hydrogen gas in air at atmospheric pressure, and up to 2800 °C when
pre-mixed in a 2:1 ratio with pure oxygen (oxyhydrogen).
 
Sam Wormley...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:02 pm
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
[quote]alex Fool around with a car 12 volt battery,and use jumper cables to
hold the rod and cast iron. use a soft wire coat hanger for your welding
rod. Wear gloves and dark sun glasses. It will give a a feel of how to
weld. Do it out doors. Do not be afraid. Every thing I know and every
experiment I have done I have done it on my own. People argue that a 12
volt battery won't work,but these people never tried. Spot welding is
what I am talking about. Bert

[/quote]
Herb, you were luck you didn't get covered with acid. You are one
lucky fool!
 
G=EMC^2 Glazier...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:07 am
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Bill Some people are idiots,but in your case you are a "complete idiot"
Bert
 
jmfbahciv...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:38 am
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jimp at (no spam) specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
[quote]alexpeter <alexpeter at (no spam) fakeemail.com> wrote:
Any tips or suggestions on welding cast to steel? Also what kind of preparation should I do?

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Posted at: http://ForumBreak.com

My technique, learned through bitter experience, is that if I need to weld
something out of the ordinary, I buy a six-pack and ask the neighbor who
is a professional welder and can weld balsa wood to peanut butter to
mil-spec to do it.


grin[/quote]

/BAH
 
G=EMC^2 Glazier...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:28 am
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Sam No luck needed. Done it 100s of times. battery does not even get
hot. Best to keep in mind diameter of wire obeys the inverse square law
and go back and read my post. I use jumper cables,but I do not think you
understand what I am saying. Point of contact is what gets red hot and
melt the iron rod. soft iron is best for light welding. lead is used for
soldering,but you must use a flux(acid) with it for bonding I know all
this is going over the heads of low wits,but in reality their heads
should be up this high Go figure bert
 
Boris Mohar...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:34 am
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:15:03 -0500, alexpeter <alexpeter at (no spam) fakeemail.com>
wrote:

[quote]Any tips or suggestions on welding cast to steel? Also what kind of preparation should I do?

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Ask at rec.crafts.metalworking. Nickel rod, preheat the part and lots of
hammering while still hot I believe.

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Boris
 
Sam Wormley...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:51 am
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
[quote]Sam No luck needed. Done it 100s of times. battery does not even get
hot. Best to keep in mind diameter of wire obeys the inverse square law
and go back and read my post. I use jumper cables,but I do not think you
understand what I am saying. Point of contact is what gets red hot and
melt the iron rod. soft iron is best for light welding. lead is used for
soldering,but you must use a flux(acid) with it for bonding I know all
this is going over the heads of low wits,but in reality their heads
should be up this high Go figure bert

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100s implies at least 200 times. I find that very hard to believe.
 
 
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