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kenseto...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:48 am
Guest
A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf

This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.

Ken Seto
 
PD...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:49 am
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On Oct 30, 9:48 am, kenseto <kens... at (no spam) erinet.com> wrote:
[quote]A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf

This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.

Ken Seto
[/quote]
How much money do you think it should cost to do those experiments
properly?
 
Inertial...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:51 am
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"kenseto" <kenseto at (no spam) erinet.com> wrote in message
news:2defc8c1-9451-4d35-9688-a1237b1e2b71 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
[quote]A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf
[/quote]
Link doesn't work

[quote]This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
[/quote]
What a load of absolute crap
 
Sam Wormley...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:32 am
Guest
kenseto wrote:
[quote]A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf

This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.

Ken Seto
[/quote]
The concept of absolute motion requires an absolute reference
frame and physics doesn't need one nor does any exist. It's all
in your head, Seto.

I've tried to clarify the language below for you, Seto, so that
you will see neither A or B is preferred or special in any way.

Assume that A and B have identical atomic clocks. That means they
tick at the same rate. Now let us suppose that A and B have relative
motion, such that their velocity with respect to each other, v > 0,
and that dv/dt = 0 .

Disregarding any Doppler shift, A measures B's time dilation as
∆t_B' = γ ∆t_B

and B measures A's time dilation as
∆t_A' = γ ∆t_A

where ∆t represent a time interval, v is the relative velocity
between A and B, and γ = 1/√(1-v^2/c^2) .
 
kenseto...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:57 am
Guest
On Oct 31, 12:14 am, Uncle Al <Uncle... at (no spam) hate.spam.net> wrote:
[quote]kenseto wrote:

A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in

[snip crap]

a landfill.

http://arxiv.org/abs/0801.0287http://arXiv.org/abs/0706.2031

idiot
[/quote]
Al is a fucking moron

[quote]
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kenseto...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:00 am
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On Oct 30, 10:51 am, "Inertial" <relativ... at (no spam) rest.com> wrote:
[quote]"kenseto" <kens... at (no spam) erinet.com> wrote in message

news:2defc8c1-9451-4d35-9688-a1237b1e2b71 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...

A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf

Link doesn't work
[/quote]
Sorry try the following link:
http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008experiment.pdf

[quote]
This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.

What a load of absolute crap
[/quote]
You are a fcuking moron. You have not read the paper and you shoot you
fucking mouth off.
 
kenseto...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:06 am
Guest
On Oct 30, 11:32 am, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]kenseto wrote:
A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf

This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.

Ken Seto

   The concept of absolute motion requires an absolute reference
   frame and physics doesn't need one nor does any exist. It's all
   in your head, Seto.

   I've tried to clarify the language below for you, Seto, so that
   you will see neither A or B is preferred or special in any way.

   Assume that A and B have identical atomic clocks. That means they
   tick at the same rate. Now let us suppose that A and B have relative
   motion, such that their velocity with respect to each other, v > 0,
   and that dv/dt = 0 .

   Disregarding any Doppler shift, A measures B's time dilation as
     ∆t_B' = γ ∆t_B
[/quote]
Hey idiot I already told you that this is wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
OR
Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma

Ken Seto

[quote]
   and B measures A's time dilation as
     ∆t_A' = γ ∆t_A

   where ∆t represent a time interval, v is the relative velocity
   between A and B, and γ = 1/√(1-v^2/c^2) .[/quote]
 
Nick
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:08 am
Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 3545
On Oct 30, 1:06 pm, kenseto <kens... at (no spam) erinet.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 30, 11:32 am, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:





kenseto wrote:
A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf

This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.

Ken Seto

   The concept of absolute motion requires an absolute reference
   frame and physics doesn't need one nor does any exist. It's all
   in your head, Seto.

   I've tried to clarify the language below for you, Seto, so that
   you will see neither A or B is preferred or special in any way.

   Assume that A and B have identical atomic clocks. That means they
   tick at the same rate. Now let us suppose that A and B have relative
   motion, such that their velocity with respect to each other, v > 0,
   and that dv/dt = 0 .

   Disregarding any Doppler shift, A measures B's time dilation as
     ∆t_B' = γ ∆t_B

Hey idiot I already told you that this is  wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
     Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
     OR
     Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma

Ken Seto





   and B measures A's time dilation as
     ∆t_A' = γ ∆t_A

   where ∆t represent a time interval, v is the relative velocity
   between A and B, and γ = 1/√(1-v^2/c^2) .- Hide quoted text -

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[/quote]
We can determine absolute new motion because it creates weight. Change
creates weight and weight resists further change of motion in the
aether. Without weight motion change would go out of control.

Mitch Raemsch
 
Nick
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:19 pm
Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 3545
On Oct 30, 5:06 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]kenseto wrote:

Hey idiot I already told you that this is  wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
     Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
     OR
     Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma

   Using your equation

   Delta(t_A)/gamma = Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)

   Delta(t_A)/gamma = gamma*Delta(t_A)

   1/gamma = gamma

   gamma = 1

   And you think I'm an idiot?
[/quote]
Closing velocity means that light moves (at C) in opposite directions
is and seperating in space at 2C. Every object has its own motion in
absolute space-aether. Gamma math for speed is determined by speed/
flow of energy.

Mitch Raemsch
 
eric gisse...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:54 pm
Guest
kenseto wrote:

[quote]A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf

This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.
[/quote]
Really Ken? The photoelectric effect and the double slit experiment?

[quote]
Ken Seto[/quote]
 
Sam Wormley...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:06 pm
Guest
kenseto wrote:

[quote]
Hey idiot I already told you that this is wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
OR
Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma

Using your equation[/quote]

Delta(t_A)/gamma = Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)

Delta(t_A)/gamma = gamma*Delta(t_A)

1/gamma = gamma

gamma = 1


And you think I'm an idiot?
 
eric gisse...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:16 pm
Guest
kenseto wrote:

[quote]On Oct 30, 11:32 am, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
kenseto wrote:
A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in the following link:
http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf

This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect
absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the
Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained
by absolute motion.

Ken Seto

The concept of absolute motion requires an absolute reference
frame and physics doesn't need one nor does any exist. It's all
in your head, Seto.

I've tried to clarify the language below for you, Seto, so that
you will see neither A or B is preferred or special in any way.

Assume that A and B have identical atomic clocks. That means they
tick at the same rate. Now let us suppose that A and B have relative
motion, such that their velocity with respect to each other, v > 0,
and that dv/dt = 0 .

Disregarding any Doppler shift, A measures B's time dilation as
?t_B' = ? ?t_B

Hey idiot I already told you that this is wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
OR
Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma
[/quote]
Show us how you obtain this prediction.

<watches as Ken copies from his high school physics book>

[quote]
Ken Seto


and B measures A's time dilation as
?t_A' = ? ?t_A

where ?t represent a time interval, v is the relative velocity
between A and B, and ? = 1/?(1-v^2/c^2) .[/quote]
 
Uncle Al...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:14 pm
Guest
kenseto wrote:
[quote]
A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in
[snip crap][/quote]

a landfill.

http://arxiv.org/abs/0801.0287
http://arXiv.org/abs/0706.2031

idiot

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
 
Uncle Al...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:02 pm
Guest
kenseto wrote:
[quote]
On Oct 31, 12:14 am, Uncle Al <Uncle... at (no spam) hate.spam.net> wrote:
kenseto wrote:

A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute
Motion" is availble in

[snip crap]

a landfill.

http://arxiv.org/abs/0801.0287http://arXiv.org/abs/0706.2031

idiot

Al is a fucking moron
[/quote]
http://cc3d.free.fr/Relativity/Relat1.html
Special Relativity for yard apes

<http://www.edu-observatory.org/physics-faq/Relativity/SR/experiments.html>
Experimental constraints on Special Relativity

http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
Dunning-Kruger effect (2000 Ig Nobel Prize)

idiot
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
 
kenseto...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:47 am
Guest
On Oct 30, 8:06 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]kenseto wrote:

Hey idiot I already told you that this is  wrong. A predicts that B's
time is retarded as follows:
     Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)
     OR
     Delta(t_B') = Delta(t_A)/gamma

   Using your equation

   Delta(t_A)/gamma = Delta(t_B') = gamma*Delta(t_A)

   Delta(t_A)/gamma = gamma*Delta(t_A)

   1/gamma = gamma
[/quote]
No idiot if the observed clock is running sow you use the factor of 1/
gamma and if the observed clock is running fast you use the factor of
gamma.


[quote]
   gamma = 1

   And you think I'm an idiot?
[/quote]
Yes you are an idiot.

Ken Seto
 
 
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